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Is It Possible To Have A Reaction From Handling Gluten Food

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I made cookies last night that were definitely not gluten-free. They were pre-made refrigerated dough, that you just break off and bake. Afterwards I had a headache which I still have today. I feel really bad today and am wondering if I could have been glutened by just handling the dough?

Ami


Ami

Hypothyroid - diagnosed early 1999

Negative blood work for Celiac 12/05

Gluten free since 12/05

Tested positive for heavy metal toxicity, low functioning thyroid (even while taking Armour), hormone imbalance & adrenal fatigue 9/07

Started chelation for heavy metals began new medication/supplements to balance thyroid, hormones and adrenals 9/07

Enterolab Results:

Myself - positive IgA: 11

HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,7)

11 yr old son - positive IgA: 11

HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,6)

8 yr old son - negative

HLA-DQ 3,1 (Subtype 7,6)

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I made cookies last night that were definitely not gluten-free. They were pre-made refrigerated dough, that you just break off and bake. Afterwards I had a headache which I still have today. I feel really bad today and am wondering if I could have been glutened by just handling the dough?

Ami

This debate has gone forwards and backwards... can you adsorb it? (possibly but unlikely) but regardless its always a risk, under finger nails and such and really better not done... if you are going to do it then pre-made refrigerated dough is a huge plus over having flour floating around which is a almost dead cert...

Did you dust the cookies etc. ???

In the end I never ever mess about with gluten flour, experience has taught me that sooner or later I mess up...


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It's probably not from touching the cookies themselves. It's just way too easy to accidently ingest some or get it around the kitchen and touch it later... It's also possible that you're just sick today, and it has nothing to do with gluten.


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Last year, at Christmas time, I made puppy chow for the other employees in my office and my daughter. It's made with Crispex cereal, chocolate chips, peanut butter, and powdered sugar. It is yummy, yet I did not eat any because the cereal had barley malt in it. Somehow, I managed to get glutened by it. I had never reacted to barley, until that time. It was a slow reaction, for me anyways. I had to leave work early the next day with severe stomach cramps, similiar to my reaction to soy, not gluten. It is possible ami, even more so if you make the cookies from scratch.


Deb

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Are you guys sure it's not just "mind over batter"?

best regards, lm

p.s. sorry, couldn't resist making that stupid pun (really, just kidding).


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Are you guys sure it's not just "mind over batter"?

best regards, lm

p.s. sorry, couldn't resist making that stupid pun (really, just kidding).

LOL....


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Well Larry, if we can't laugh about this, who can?????? :lol:


Deb

Long Island, NY

Double DQ1, subtype 6

We urge all doctors to take time to listen to your patients.. don't "isolate" symptoms but look at the whole spectrum. If a patient tells you s/he feels as if s/he's falling apart and "nothing seems to be working properly", chances are s/he's right!

"The calm river of your life approaches the rocky chute of the rapids - flow on through. You are the same water. The rocks cannot hurt you. Remember, now and then, that you are the water and not the boat. Flow on!

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there he goes again! lm....u and my husband must be cut from the same cloth! You make all the jokes he would! :D

Ami...I would say IF it was a glutening it was somehow ingested - how well did you wash your hands, do you bite your nails, etc.

Before going gluten free, I spilled an entire 2 lb jar of wheat flour. I vacuumed it up. Last week, I finally emptied the bag (long story). There was flour everywhere. I'm STILL recovering from it, I think. But I got it in my hair, and I breathed it in, etc. It was EVERYWHERE. I even got hives all up and down my hands. It was BAAAAAAD....

BUT, I still think it has to enter the body to become a problem....

:) Hope you're feeling better

(ps....Darlindeb - try the Health Valley Rice or Corn crunchems??? They're good - I made chex mix with them a couple weeks ago).

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.....I feel really bad today and am wondering if I could have been glutened by just handling the dough? Ami

I certainly don't know. But something happened the other day that gave me a creepy feeling (just mental not physical).

Our (temporarily living at home 26 yr old) baby boy was heating up some leftover pizza (the real kind) that I had gotten for my wife the night before. We use paper plates a lot and also plastic paper plate holders and trays. I saw him pick up the pizza and then touch his tray with his greasy pizza fingers that just touched the crust. Don't know why it got to me so much, but now I don't really want to use those trays or paper plate holders. And if you follow the greasy pizza finger trail, the microwave handle, the refridge handle, the family size coke bottle, and who knows what else is possibly contaminated. And at the very least with pizza grease, if not gluten. I'm not sure if I even want to live here anymore.

See what you guys have done! I never thought about that stuff before. best regards, lm


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"Sobriety sucks. That's why they invented booze in the first place." Denis Leary - Rescue Me

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.....Before going gluten free, I spilled an entire 2 lb jar of wheat flour. I vacuumed it up. Last week, I finally emptied the bag (long story). There was flour everywhere. I'm STILL recovering from it, I think. But I got it in my hair, and I breathed it in, etc. It was EVERYWHERE. I even got hives all up and down my hands. It was BAAAAAAD....

kb,

If that happens again, you better get those emergency hazardous response teams to quarantine your whole house. And then send in a crew wearing those spacesuits with the breathing packs to decontaminate your kitchen. Then I would sell the house and move to another neighborhood where that kind of thing doesn't happen.

best regards, lm


gluten-free 12-18-06

colonoscopy, upper GI
blood, urine, stool tests, prometheus panel
positive endoscopy/positive duodenal biopsies (severe villous atrophy, high intraepithelial lympocytes)
diagnosed celiac disease by Gastroenterologist Andrew R. Gottesman, 12-18-06

"Sobriety sucks. That's why they invented booze in the first place." Denis Leary - Rescue Me

Beware the chocolate of Chiapa

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I've been told that gluten molecules absolutely cannot penetrate intact skin. But like everyone else has said, there are many other ways for a person to get glutened from just being around it. If you have any cuts or abrasions on your skin, if you breathe in anything airborne, it gets stuck in the mucous in the back of your throat and you naturally swallow it or if you absentmindedly put your fingers in your mouth or your nose for any reason. All those things could innocently happen and you have been glutened. None of us wants to be paranoid about this. But we sure can't ignore it either.

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Awwwwwwwww Larry--sorry about that son of yours. And, by the way, you would have to live in a bubble to stay away from all that. Everywhere you go, you take a chance on being glutened, so you might as well live in your house. :lol:


Deb

Long Island, NY

Double DQ1, subtype 6

We urge all doctors to take time to listen to your patients.. don't "isolate" symptoms but look at the whole spectrum. If a patient tells you s/he feels as if s/he's falling apart and "nothing seems to be working properly", chances are s/he's right!

"The calm river of your life approaches the rocky chute of the rapids - flow on through. You are the same water. The rocks cannot hurt you. Remember, now and then, that you are the water and not the boat. Flow on!

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Would it be so odd that one could breathe gluten particles that are airborne from the rising steam/ heat/ smelly air out of the oven while it bakes? would it be so odd that some immune reaction could get started from the lungs?

We know so little about the whole thing. I can tell you that I got (or did I?) glutened by hair products. I was using a new kind of hair mousse that had aveeno in it ( the gluten cousin from oats which is sometimes mistaken by celiacs) on my clients and the next day, my hands broke out with Herpetiformis dermatitis ( that's MY reaction to gluten. ) I gave it away.

The fact is, a riled up immune system can get off easily. . I might have had a skin scratch , or maybe our skin is not that impervious. we do administer ointments through the skin don't we?

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