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Allergens In Alcohol -- Gluten, Casein, Egg, Fish?

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Does anyone here have an experience of reacting to an ingredient used to make alcohol, like fining agents used to clarify the product? There is a proposal outstanding to put allergen warnings on the label.

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dl...1036/BUSINESS01

Is this something to be worried about, or are the amounts too small to be concerned with? I know you can find vegan wines which would assure the absence of some items, but this wouldn't cover gluten. It seems by the end of the year (unless the rulemaking gets delayed ...) we may have more warning labels to decipher. I guess in a restaurant, you would have to have them bring out potential wines and let you look at the labels.

It makes me wonder if sometimes I have been reacting to a particular wine rather than cross-contamination in food :huh: I've been assuming that the clarification process is sufficient to take out the yeast in wine (yeast being something I am told I should avoid -- note the careful wording on that one :lol: ). I have taken out enough from my diet, I really don't want to worry about wine too. I feel like saying this is one thing I refuse to give up ...

Edit: I was reading a number of articles, some of which mentioned allergens potentially in alcohol other than wine. I realize I was inaccurate above, in that the rulemaking looks to just deal with wine.


McDougall diet (low fat vegan) since 6/00

Gluten free since 1/6/07

Soy free and completely casein and egg free since 2/15/07

Yeast free, on and off, since 3/1/07 -- I can't notice any difference one way or the other

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Fecal Antigliladin IgA 140 (Normal Range <10 units)

Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 50 (Normal Range <10 units)

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 517 (Normal Range <300 units)

Fecal anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody 127 (Normal Range <10 units)

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0501

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 06xx

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,1 (subtype 5,6)

Fecal anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA antibody 11 (Normal range <10 units)

Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 11 (Normal range <10 units)

Fecal Anti-Soy IgA 119 (Normal Range < 10 units)

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Personally I've thought for a long time that allergan warnings and ingredient lists should be on alcohol of any kind. For me even a small amount of something filtered out is a no-no. I am a celiac who reacts strongly to gluten even in distilled products so for me this is really good news.


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Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002

Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis

All bold resoved or went into remission in time with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002

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I never worried about that until I recently had a very distinctive casein reaction from wine. I happened to be a country where allergen labeling is very good, and sure enough there was a "may contain traces of milk protein" warning on the label. I dunno, I'd never really noticed that kind of reaction to wine in the US, but I don't drink it enough to really be able to say.


"Let food be thy medicine, and let thy medicine be food." - Hippocrates

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I never worried about that until I recently had a very distinctive casein reaction from wine. I happened to be a country where allergen labeling is very good, and sure enough there was a "may contain traces of milk protein" warning on the label. I dunno, I'd never really noticed that kind of reaction to wine in the US, but I don't drink it enough to really be able to say.

I've had a casein reaction from wine as well sometimes. I stick to Spanish, Italian and French wines now and so far, so good.

Pauliina

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I've had a casein reaction from wine as well sometimes. I stick to Spanish, Italian and French wines now and so far, so good.

Pauliina

Good to know. Wine is just one of those things I don't want to have to worry about. It should just always be safe and allergen free haha. I'll have to look more closely at the vegan wine lists one of these days.


"Let food be thy medicine, and let thy medicine be food." - Hippocrates

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I buy vegan, organic wine, and then it helps avoid the other allergens (as well as sulphites).


Gluten-free, Vegan

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I know some of the fining agents (clarifiers) used in beer/wine making can be made from some pretty nasty stuff. Bentonite (clay), Polyclar (plastic powder), Gelatin, Isinglass (fish swim bladders) are a few. I have even heard of some home brewers using egg whites.

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I know some of the fining agents (clarifiers) used in beer/wine making can be made from some pretty nasty stuff. Bentonite (clay), Polyclar (plastic powder), Gelatin, Isinglass (fish swim bladders) are a few. I have even heard of some home brewers using egg whites.

Yeah and casein is another thing they sometimes use <_<


"Let food be thy medicine, and let thy medicine be food." - Hippocrates

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Just wanted to share some info I found on Yellowtail wines which are very easy to find (unlike some of the vegan/organic wines) and also very good. I use the Chardonnay for cooking (and drinking :D) and the Shiraz is also great. They've recently added several others that I haven't tried...yet.

From their FAQ - http://www.yellowtailwineusa.com/yt_faq/

Q: Okay for Vegan?

A: Drink assured. Our [yellow tail] red wines are 100% animal and animal byproduct free -accept of course the animal on the label. However, you will find a small amount of gelatin used in the finishing process of our white wines and therefore they aren't appropriate for our vegan friends.

Q: What if I'm allergic to Glutens?

A: All of the [yellow tail] wines are gluten-free. So while you won't find lecithin, food starches or any wheat/soy/nut products in our wine, what you will find is a whole lot of flavor.

(BTW, I'm gluten, casein, soy, and egg free.)

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