• Join our community!

    Do you have questions about celiac disease or the gluten-free diet?

  • Ads by Google:
     




    Get email alerts Subscribe to Celiac.com's FREE weekly eNewsletter

    Ads by Google:



       Get email alertsSubscribe to Celiac.com's FREE weekly eNewsletter

  • Announcements

    • admin

      Frequently Asked Questions About Celiac Disease   04/24/2018

      This Celiac.com FAQ on celiac disease will guide you to all of the basic information you will need to know about the disease, its diagnosis, testing methods, a gluten-free diet, etc.   Subscribe to Celiac.com's FREE weekly eNewsletter   What is Celiac Disease and the Gluten-Free Diet? What are the major symptoms of celiac disease? Celiac Disease Symptoms What testing is available for celiac disease?  Celiac Disease Screening Interpretation of Celiac Disease Blood Test Results Can I be tested even though I am eating gluten free? How long must gluten be taken for the serological tests to be meaningful? The Gluten-Free Diet 101 - A Beginner's Guide to Going Gluten-Free Is celiac inherited? Should my children be tested? Ten Facts About Celiac Disease Genetic Testing Is there a link between celiac and other autoimmune diseases? Celiac Disease Research: Associated Diseases and Disorders Is there a list of gluten foods to avoid? Unsafe Gluten-Free Food List (Unsafe Ingredients) Is there a list of gluten free foods? Safe Gluten-Free Food List (Safe Ingredients) Gluten-Free Alcoholic Beverages Distilled Spirits (Grain Alcohols) and Vinegar: Are they Gluten-Free? Where does gluten hide? Additional Things to Beware of to Maintain a 100% Gluten-Free Diet What if my doctor won't listen to me? An Open Letter to Skeptical Health Care Practitioners Gluten-Free recipes: Gluten-Free Recipes
0
pnltbox27

Feeling Like Crap

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

been gluten free for a little under 4 weeks, the first 2 weeks i felt the best ive felt in 20 some years. actualy had regular trips to the bathroom no wicked D.now the last 5 or 6 days i feel like i did before going gluten-free.constant D and gas . my typical day is vans gluten-free waffles for breakfast with jam and a bag of almonds from the quicky mart and a diet coke, lunch has been a ham sandwhich on the gluten free pantry bread mix,which by the way tastes really good when made in my new bread maker we purchased and a bag of lays potato chips with chocalte chip cookies by bobs green mill also very good.dinner is usually grilled chicken or steak with carrots, ive been on a carrot kick since going gluten-free. snacks are usually act II popcorn or the gluten free cookies or vanilla ice cream. and lots of diet coke, im kinda a diet pop junkie.does any of this sound like something that should be giving me a problem??also i have been eating cheddar and colby jack cheese.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ads by Google:
Ads by Google:


Thanks for posting this as it gives me an idea about where to focus in my own mystery glutening.

I am in the same boat with you...really. I've been gluten-free for about the same period of time, and most of it has been HEAVEN...feeling better than I have in a decade. But this past week has been a total downer. Somehow I got glutened...complete with mouth sores, mild d, itchy elbows and fatigue (my typical symptoms). The only suspicious thing your diet and my diet have in common:

LAYS Potato Chips. :(

I was already starting to suspect them yesterday, because I felt bad after a meal that was just chili made from organic pinto beans (rinsed), organic canned chicken (rinsed), my own homemade gluten-free chili seasoning blend, and Lays.

Someone recommended Cape Cod chips as being a low risk for cross-contamination. I'm going to look for some.

I don't eat eggs, milk, rice, fish, almonds or corn because of my infant son's allergies (he's still nursing). I do eat a lot of carrots (baby, organic, washed). I have an occasional diet Dr. Pepper, but not every day.

You didn't mention ground beef in your list of foods. My other big suspect was ground beef. It was from Wal-Mart (my closest grocer), and although it's against the law, I wondered if it had been mixed with some filler. But I've been sticking with "whole" sources of beef for the past few days...pot roast, stew meat, etc.

Another few things for you to check (in case it isn't the Lays): 1.) Has the chicken been injected with a solution that contains "food starch"? 2.) Is your jam gluten-free? Some are not. 3.) Is your jam jar clean and free from gluten crumbs? If it dates to your pre-gluten days, or if it's used by anyone eating bread, dump it and get a new jar for you alone.

Good luck figuring it out! The bad days just hammer home how ecstatic I am to have found the problem (gluten) and to be on my road to recovery.

April

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my suggestion would be to give up the gluten free bread and cookies & dairy.

obviously you are eating something that is not agreeing with you. 4 weeks might be too soon for you to add in the gluten free grains. The cross contamination issue is also a concern, it kicks in after you have most of the gluten out of your system :(

oh & personally I would also give up forever those diet cokes. check out what that artificial sugar does to your brain. & now that it is getting more widely accepted that gluten affects the brain, I would not want to be consuming anything else that interferes with the brain. although, my sister also refuses to give up her diet cokes - says she does not want to be fat... Which I think is an excuse...

I also do not drink regular cokes, are you aware how corrosive that stuff is to your teeth? imagine what it is doing to your compromised intestines!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
oh & personally I would also give up forever those diet cokes. check out what that artificial sugar does to your brain. & now that it is getting more widely accepted that gluten affects the brain, I would not want to be consuming anything else that interferes with the brain.

I would have to agree with this. The Aspartame in your diet coke is toxic. I would guarantee that you'd feel better (in alot of ways) if you did what this poster suggested and ditched the diet cokes.

Yes...it could be damaging your brain...and no it isnt good for your intestines...or any other part of your body.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Besides the drinks, those chips stand out as a possible culprit IMHO. Lay's is notorious for MSG, and loads of garbage including wheat derived stuff in their chips. The only safe chips in any brand that I'm aware of are the plain ones. No flavorings. That's the only ones I ever liked anyway, but most people (for reasons I do not understand) seem to like the flavored ones. Looking at the mile-long list of ingredients makes me wonder how anyone could want to eat them :blink:

Aside from that, perhaps the almonds are a source of CC? A recent thread seems to indicate it is common for nuts to be processed at the same facilities as wheat, but the only allergy info I've ever seen on packages of nuts is that they are processed with other nuts.

As gfpaperdoll points out, dairy or other things might be a bit rough on your system for the time being.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ads by Google:


Thanks for posting this as it gives me an idea about where to focus in my own mystery glutening.

I am in the same boat with you...really. I've been gluten-free for about the same period of time, and most of it has been HEAVEN...feeling better than I have in a decade. But this past week has been a total downer. Somehow I got glutened...complete with mouth sores, mild d, itchy elbows and fatigue (my typical symptoms). The only suspicious thing your diet and my diet have in common:

LAYS Potato Chips. :(

I was already starting to suspect them yesterday, because I felt bad after a meal that was just chili made from organic pinto beans (rinsed), organic canned chicken (rinsed), my own homemade gluten-free chili seasoning blend, and Lays.

Someone recommended Cape Cod chips as being a low risk for cross-contamination. I'm going to look for some.

I don't eat eggs, milk, rice, fish, almonds or corn because of my infant son's allergies (he's still nursing). I do eat a lot of carrots (baby, organic, washed). I have an occasional diet Dr. Pepper, but not every day.

You didn't mention ground beef in your list of foods. My other big suspect was ground beef. It was from Wal-Mart (my closest grocer), and although it's against the law, I wondered if it had been mixed with some filler. But I've been sticking with "whole" sources of beef for the past few days...pot roast, stew meat, etc.

Another few things for you to check (in case it isn't the Lays): 1.) Has the chicken been injected with a solution that contains "food starch"? 2.) Is your jam gluten-free? Some are not. 3.) Is your jam jar clean and free from gluten crumbs? If it dates to your pre-gluten days, or if it's used by anyone eating bread, dump it and get a new jar for you alone.

Good luck figuring it out! The bad days just hammer home how ecstatic I am to have found the problem (gluten) and to be on my road to recovery.

April

I am thinking the lays. Yesterday i was so sick, i had thought it was all from the miracle whip, but i did feel good when i woke up yesterday til i grabbed a few lays chips, then i got so sick. I didnt think it oculd be the lays so blamed the miracle whip, but now that you both think you might have problems with lays, then i bet maybe that is what the culprit is. I guess no more lays for me.

paula

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I second (or third) the cutting out the Lay's and diet coke. I had some Lay's about a week after going gluten free and the tummy did not like it one bit. I don't know if it's the oil that they use or a CC issue, but many people seem to not deal well with them.

As for the soda, I used to drink 4 or 5 Coke's a day, along with a couple cups of coffee. When I went gluten free I figured I might as well weed out some of the other junk. I might drink a Sprite 2 or 3 times a week now, but haven't had Coke or coffee in almost 2 months and don't miss them at all. Propel vitamin water(made by Gatorade), comes in a variety of flavors, is pretty cheap wholesale, and a lot better for you, especially iin the damaged state your intestines are in.

Might want to look into the almonds, you may have a tree nut intolerance as well. Hope you get it figured out and feeling better soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks for all of the advice.im pretty sure the lays chips are probably a culprit of some sort, so i guess ill lay off of them. no pun untended lol.. as far as the diet cola everyone of you are right its very hypocritical of me to cut out gluten to heal my body only to polute it with a different toxin.its like smoking though i am dependent on it ive been drinking only cola for my whole life im 37 years old. i cant seem to find a alternative , but ill keep trying

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

About Lay's Potato Chips...

I just started the gluten-free diet last week, but I have always eaten a lot of Lay's chips in the past, usually the reduced fat, but none of the plain chips bothered me.

Then last summer I suddenly started having violent reactions to their chips. I have no idea what changed, but every few weeks I would try again and would be doubled over or lying in a fetal position in bed with D for a few days. I was totally baffled by the reaction.

I know that they have gone to all sunflower oil now, but I use it all the time for cooking without any problems and the type they use is supposed to be non-GMO. All I can figure is that they changed their processing.

Thanks for maybe solving a mystery for me...I get my potato fix with Ore-Ida fries now (although they only guarantee that some of their line is produced on gluten-free lines so you have to check their website for UPC codes).

Jan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ads by Google:


Thanks for posting this as it gives me an idea about where to focus in my own mystery glutening.

I am in the same boat with you...really. I've been gluten-free for about the same period of time, and most of it has been HEAVEN...feeling better than I have in a decade. But this past week has been a total downer. Somehow I got glutened...complete with mouth sores, mild d, itchy elbows and fatigue (my typical symptoms). The only suspicious thing your diet and my diet have in common:

LAYS Potato Chips. :(

I was already starting to suspect them yesterday, because I felt bad after a meal that was just chili made from organic pinto beans (rinsed), organic canned chicken (rinsed), my own homemade gluten-free chili seasoning blend, and Lays.

Someone recommended Cape Cod chips as being a low risk for cross-contamination. I'm going to look for some.

I don't eat eggs, milk, rice, fish, almonds or corn because of my infant son's allergies (he's still nursing). I do eat a lot of carrots (baby, organic, washed). I have an occasional diet Dr. Pepper, but not every day.

You didn't mention ground beef in your list of foods. My other big suspect was ground beef. It was from Wal-Mart (my closest grocer), and although it's against the law, I wondered if it had been mixed with some filler. But I've been sticking with "whole" sources of beef for the past few days...pot roast, stew meat, etc.

Another few things for you to check (in case it isn't the Lays): 1.) Has the chicken been injected with a solution that contains "food starch"? 2.) Is your jam gluten-free? Some are not. 3.) Is your jam jar clean and free from gluten crumbs? If it dates to your pre-gluten days, or if it's used by anyone eating bread, dump it and get a new jar for you alone.

Good luck figuring it out! The bad days just hammer home how ecstatic I am to have found the problem (gluten) and to be on my road to recovery.

April

the lay's are said to be gluten free i contacted the company and most lay's are but they did say there was some risk of contamination but was low because most of their products are gluten free the walmart hambuger though gets me every time so i stick to the fresh ground places and seem to do fine but ham is very risky i just stay away from it all together

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

its been a week or two since my post and ive only had a bag of original lays twice with no problems so im still confused . i dont know if it was cc or something else. it sure is interesting to see others possibly having the same issues though..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

0

  • Who's Online   8 Members, 3 Anonymous, 982 Guests (See full list)

  • Top Posters +

  • Recent Articles

    Jefferson Adams
    Celiac.com 04/25/2018 - A team of Yale University researchers discovered that bacteria in the small intestine can travel to other organs and trigger an autoimmune response. In this case, they looked at Enterococcus gallinarum, which can travel beyond the gut to the spleen, lymph nodes, and liver. The research could be helpful for treating type 1 diabetes, lupus, and celiac disease.
    In autoimmune diseases, such as type 1 diabetes, lupus, and celiac disease, the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks healthy cells and tissues. Autoimmune disease affects nearly 24 million people in the United States. 
    In their study, a team of Yale University researchers discovered that bacteria in the small intestine can travel to other organs and trigger an autoimmune response. In this case, they looked at Enterococcus gallinarum, which can travel beyond the gut to the spleen, lymph nodes, and liver. They found that E. gallinarum triggered an autoimmune response in the mice when it traveled beyond the gut.
    They also found that the response can be countered by using antibiotics or vaccines to suppress the autoimmune reaction and prevent the bacterium from growing. The researchers were able to duplicate this mechanism using cultured human liver cells, and they also found the bacteria E. gallinarum in the livers of people with autoimmune disease.
    The team found that administering an antibiotic or vaccine to target E. gallinarum suppressed the autoimmune reaction in the mice and prevented the bacterium from growing. "When we blocked the pathway leading to inflammation," says senior study author Martin Kriegel, "we could reverse the effect of this bug on autoimmunity."
    Team research team plans to further investigate the biological mechanisms that are associated with E. gallinarum, along with the potential implications for systemic lupus and autoimmune liver disease.
    This study indicates that gut bacteria may be the key to treating chronic autoimmune conditions such as systemic lupus and autoimmune liver disease. Numerous autoimmune conditions have been linked to gut bacteria.
    Read the full study in Science.

    Tammy Rhodes
    Celiac.com 04/24/2018 - Did you know in 2017 alone, the United States had OVER TENS OF THOUSANDS of people evacuate their homes due to natural disasters such as fires, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes and tsunamis? Most evacuation sites are not equipped to feed your family the safe gluten free foods that are required to stay healthy.  Are you prepared in case of an emergency? Do you have your Gluten Free Emergency Food Bag ready to grab and go?  
    I have already lived through two natural disasters. Neither of which I ever want to experience again, but they taught me a very valuable lesson, which is why I created a Gluten Free Emergency Food Bag (see link below). Here’s my story. If you’ve ever lived in or visited the Los Angeles area, you’re probably familiar with the Santa Ana winds and how bitter sweet they are. Sweet for cleaning the air and leaving the skies a brilliant crystal blue, and bitter for the power outages and potential brush fires that might ensue.  It was one of those bitter nights where the Santa Ana winds were howling, and we had subsequently lost our power. We had to drive over an hour just to find a restaurant so we could eat dinner. I remember vividly seeing the glow of a brush fire on the upper hillside of the San Gabriel Mountains, a good distance from our neighborhood. I really didn’t think much of it, given that it seemed so far from where we lived, and I was hungry! After we ate, we headed back home to a very dark house and called it a night. 
    That’s where the story takes a dangerous turn….about 3:15am. I awoke to the TV blaring loudly, along with the lights shining brightly. Our power was back on! I proceeded to walk throughout the house turning everything off at exactly the same time our neighbor, who was told to evacuate our street, saw me through our window, assuming I knew that our hillside was ablaze with flames. Flames that were shooting 50 feet into the air. I went back to bed and fell fast asleep. The fire department was assured we had left because our house was dark and quiet again. Two hours had passed.  I suddenly awoke to screams coming from a family member yelling, “fire, fire, fire”! Flames were shooting straight up into the sky, just blocks from our house. We lived on a private drive with only one way in and one way out.  The entrance to our street was full of smoke and the fire fighters were doing their best to save our neighbors homes. We literally had enough time to grab our dogs, pile into the car, and speed to safety. As we were coming down our street, fire trucks passed us with sirens blaring, and I wondered if I would ever see my house and our possessions ever again. Where do we go? Who do we turn to? Are shelters a safe option? 
    When our daughter was almost three years old, we left the West Coast and relocated to Northern Illinois. A place where severe weather is a common occurrence. Since the age of two, I noticed that my daughter appeared gaunt, had an incredibly distended belly, along with gas, stomach pain, low weight, slow growth, unusual looking stool, and a dislike for pizza, hotdog buns, crackers, Toast, etc. The phone call from our doctor overwhelmed me.  She was diagnosed with Celiac Disease. I broke down into tears sobbing. What am I going to feed my child? Gluten is everywhere.
    After being scoped at Children's Hospital of Chicago, and my daughters Celiac Disease officially confirmed, I worried about her getting all the nutrients her under nourished body so desperately needed. I already knew she had a peanut allergy from blood tests, but just assumed she would be safe with other nuts. I was so horribly wrong. After feeding her a small bite of a pistachio, which she immediately spit out, nuts would become her enemy. Her anaphylactic reaction came within minutes of taking a bite of that pistachio. She was complaining of horrible stomach cramps when the vomiting set in. She then went limp and starting welting. We called 911.
    Now we never leave home without our Epipens and our gluten free food supplies. We analyze every food label. We are hyper vigilant about cross contamination. We are constantly looking for welts and praying for no stomach pain. We are always prepared and on guard. It's just what we do now. Anything to protect our child, our love...like so many other parents out there have to do every moment of ever day!  
    Then, my second brush with a natural disaster happened, without any notice, leaving us once again scrambling to find a safe place to shelter. It was a warm and muggy summer morning, and my husband was away on a business trip leaving my young daughter and me to enjoy our summer day. Our Severe Weather Alert Radio was going off, again, as I continued getting our daughter ready for gymnastics.  Having gotten used to the (what seemed to be daily) “Severe Thunderstorm warning,” I didn’t pay much attention to it. I continued downstairs with my daughter and our dog, when I caught a glimpse out the window of an incredibly black looking cloud. By the time I got downstairs, I saw the cover to our grill literally shoot straight up into the air. Because we didn’t have a fenced in yard, I quickly ran outside and chased the cover, when subsequently, I saw my neighbor’s lawn furniture blow pass me. I quickly realized I made a big mistake going outside. As I ran back inside, I heard debris hitting the front of our home.  Our dog was the first one to the basement door! As we sat huddled in the dark corner of our basement, I was once again thinking where are we going to go if our house is destroyed. I was not prepared, and I should have been. I should have learned my lesson the first time. Once the storm passed, we quickly realized we were without power and most of our trees were destroyed. We were lucky that our house had minimal damage, but that wasn’t true for most of the area surrounding us.  We were without power for five days. We lost most of our food - our gluten free food.
    That is when I knew we had to be prepared. No more winging it. We couldn’t take a chance like that ever again. We were “lucky” one too many times. We were very fortunate that we did not lose our home to the Los Angeles wildfire, and only had minimal damage from the severe storm which hit our home in Illinois.
      
    In 2017 alone, FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) had 137 natural disasters declared within the United States. According to FEMA, around 50% of the United States population isn’t prepared for a natural disaster. These disasters can happen anywhere, anytime and some without notice. It’s hard enough being a parent, let alone being a parent of a gluten free family member. Now, add a natural disaster on top of that. Are you prepared?
    You can find my Gluten Free Emergency Food Bags and other useful products at www.allergynavigator.com.  

    Jefferson Adams
    Celiac.com 04/23/2018 - A team of researchers recently set out to learn whether celiac disease patients commonly suffer cognitive impairment at the time they are diagnosed, and to compare their cognitive performance with non-celiac subjects with similar chronic symptoms and to a group of healthy control subjects.
    The research team included G Longarini, P Richly, MP Temprano, AF Costa, H Vázquez, ML Moreno, S Niveloni, P López, E Smecuol, R Mazure, A González, E Mauriño, and JC Bai. They are variously associated with the Small Bowel Section, Department of Medicine, Dr. C. Bonorino Udaondo Gastroenterology Hospital; Neurocience Cognitive and Traslational Institute (INECO), Favaloro Fundation, CONICET, Buenos Aires; the Brain Health Center (CESAL), Quilmes, Argentina; the Research Council, MSAL, CABA; and with the Research Institute, School of Medicine, Universidad del Salvador.
    The team enrolled fifty adults with symptoms and indications of celiac disease in a prospective cohort without regard to the final diagnosis.  At baseline, all individuals underwent cognitive functional and psychological evaluation. The team then compared celiac disease patients with subjects without celiac disease, and with healthy controls matched by sex, age, and education.
    Celiac disease patients had similar cognitive performance and anxiety, but no significant differences in depression scores compared with disease controls.
    A total of thirty-three subjects were diagnosed with celiac disease. Compared with the 26 healthy control subjects, the 17 celiac disease subjects, and the 17 disease control subjects, who mostly had irritable bowel syndrome, showed impaired cognitive performance (P=0.02 and P=0.04, respectively), functional impairment (P<0.01), and higher depression (P<0.01). 
    From their data, the team noted that any abnormal cognitive functions they saw in adults with newly diagnosed celiac disease did not seem not to be a result of the disease itself. 
    Their results indicate that cognitive dysfunction in celiac patients could be related to long-term symptoms from chronic disease, in general.
    Source:
    J Clin Gastroenterol. 2018 Mar 1. doi: 10.1097/MCG.0000000000001018.

    Connie Sarros
    Celiac.com 04/21/2018 - Dear Friends and Readers,
    I have been writing articles for Scott Adams since the 2002 Summer Issue of the Scott-Free Press. The Scott-Free Press evolved into the Journal of Gluten Sensitivity. I felt honored when Scott asked me ten years ago to contribute to his quarterly journal and it's been a privilege to write articles for his publication ever since.
    Due to personal health reasons and restrictions, I find that I need to retire. My husband and I can no longer travel the country speaking at conferences and to support groups (which we dearly loved to do) nor can I commit to writing more books, articles, or menus. Consequently, I will no longer be contributing articles to the Journal of Gluten Sensitivity. 
    My following books will still be available at Amazon.com:
    Gluten-free Cooking for Dummies Student's Vegetarian Cookbook for Dummies Wheat-free Gluten-free Dessert Cookbook Wheat-free Gluten-free Reduced Calorie Cookbook Wheat-free Gluten-free Cookbook for Kids and Busy Adults (revised version) My first book was published in 1996. My journey since then has been incredible. I have met so many in the celiac community and I feel blessed to be able to call you friends. Many of you have told me that I helped to change your life – let me assure you that your kind words, your phone calls, your thoughtful notes, and your feedback throughout the years have had a vital impact on my life, too. Thank you for all of your support through these years.

    Jefferson Adams
    Celiac.com 04/20/2018 - A digital media company and a label data company are teaming up to help major manufacturers target, reach and convert their desired shoppers based on dietary needs, such as gluten-free diet. The deal could bring synergy in emerging markets such as the gluten-free and allergen-free markets, which represent major growth sectors in the global food industry. 
    Under the deal, personalized digital media company Catalina will be joining forces with Label Insight. Catalina uses consumer purchases data to target shoppers on a personal base, while Label Insight works with major companies like Kellogg, Betty Crocker, and Pepsi to provide insight on food label data to government, retailers, manufacturers and app developers.
    "Brands with very specific product benefits, gluten-free for example, require precise targeting to efficiently reach and convert their desired shoppers,” says Todd Morris, President of Catalina's Go-to-Market organization, adding that “Catalina offers the only purchase-based targeting solution with this capability.” 
    Label Insight’s clients include food and beverage giants such as Unilever, Ben & Jerry's, Lipton and Hellman’s. Label Insight technology has helped the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) build the sector’s very first scientifically accurate database of food ingredients, health attributes and claims.
    Morris says the joint partnership will allow Catalina to “enhance our dataset and further increase our ability to target shoppers who are currently buying - or have shown intent to buy - in these emerging categories,” including gluten-free, allergen-free, and other free-from foods.
    The deal will likely make for easier, more precise targeting of goods to consumers, and thus provide benefits for manufacturers and retailers looking to better serve their retail food customers, especially in specialty areas like gluten-free and allergen-free foods.
    Source:
    fdfworld.com