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Info Needed On Why Soy Milk Is Not Good 4 U

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I found it interesting that many people mentioned soy isn't good for you and we don't need it on the Miralax thread. I'd love to read more about why? Is it all soy (like soy flour,tofu,milk,soybean oil..etc)

Oh and I just found out I tested + to Soy on Dr Fine's testing, I may test my son too.

Here is my post about the situation with my son:

We've used Miralax for years before it became an OTC. I hate the stuff because I have seen side effects in my child that are not common nor are they listed as one...slurred and speech regression, issues with sensory.....we started it back when my son was 1yr and he is 4 now. I finally got him off the miralax this summer and he was going pretty good, now all of a sudden he is backed up again and has a got a horrid rash...just like he did when he was drinking reg milk in large amount. The only thing that has changed is the past several weeks he's been drinking Silk soy milk(both vanilla and chocolate).

at first the chocolate silk soy milk was helping in the fact it loosened his stools now that has come to a stand still. I honestally don't know if it is the soy milk or that he might have accidentally ingested dairy or gluten???? He is highly casein allergic too.

Janel (me): gluten-free since 4/10/07; casien free 5/1/07;soy light 10/07

**LOST 35 lbs since April 2007(much needed weight loss)**

ds(6 yrs)- gluten-free since 3/19/07; casein free 5/2/07;soy free 10/07

HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 7,7)

new dx= Hirschsprungs Disease w/cecostomy

the non believers, only allergen free eatting at home because they have to be:

Hubby: refuses to eat Gluten-free Casein-free except for dinner

dd(14 yrs)- refuses to go along with any special dietary retrictions *I suspect dairy/wheat intollerant*

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Started Specific Carbohydrate Diet on 8-16-09 because son was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis and want to give him moral support.

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It is possible to find studies on both sides of whether soy is OK or not. Here is one listing. The conclusion here is that small amounts are OK, but shouldn't be more than a condiment or something to be consumed as a delicacy in small amounts on special occasions. Notice that he also says that isolated soy protein is not good for you and should be avoided:


That, though, is the general view for the general population. You test positive to soy. Your son seems to be reacting to it also. (If you aren't sure about the latter, you can always have him tested.) Soy is simply not good for someone who is intolerant to it, whether or not it is a fine food for anyone else.

I will mention that soy is known for creating skin problems for those intolerant or allergic to it. I never noticed my reaction to soy until I tested positive and thought I'd go off it and see what happened. The first thing I noticed was that my complexion finally cleared up. (Gee, I'm 54; it is about time B) ) When I pretty much gave up dairy some years ago my skin had improved but not gotten completely clear. If I have soy now (even soybean oil) it will seem like a casein reaction, and my face breaks out.

I am unsure whether the problem extends to soy lecithin or not. Enterolab said it would probably be OK. I can find the same information on web sites about soy allergies. (Some of those sites will say that soybean oil is usually OK too.) But it seems like there still are people who react to it. So recently I decided to eliminate the soy lecithin and see what happens. I may get even better looking, who knows :lol:

There are other milks your son could drink. Actually, I found that I prefer the alternatives to the taste of soy milk.

McDougall diet (low fat vegan) since 6/00

Gluten free since 1/6/07

Soy free and completely casein and egg free since 2/15/07

Yeast free, on and off, since 3/1/07 -- I can't notice any difference one way or the other

Enterolab results -- 2/15/07

Fecal Antigliladin IgA 140 (Normal Range <10 units)

Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 50 (Normal Range <10 units)

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 517 (Normal Range <300 units)

Fecal anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody 127 (Normal Range <10 units)

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0501

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 06xx

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,1 (subtype 5,6)

Fecal anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA antibody 11 (Normal range <10 units)

Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 11 (Normal range <10 units)

Fecal Anti-Soy IgA 119 (Normal Range < 10 units)

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Here is a link that leads to many other links with tons of info on soy. Dr. Mercola on soy

The bottom line is, that the only soy that is healthy (for people who aren't intolerant) is traditionally fermented soy (which you can't even get in North America), because the fermenting process (which takes several years) gets rid of all the toxins that are in soy beans.

But even then, Asians only use it for condiments or put it into their soups (meaning, they eat small amounts every day, it is NOT a staple food). It is NEVER used as their primary source of protein if they have the money to buy meat, as it is a poor source of protein.

Soy milk is generally a waste product, and plain not good for anybody.

I am a German citizen, married to a Canadian 29 years, four daughters, one son, seven granddaughters and four grandsons, with one more grandchild on the way in July 2009.

Intolerant to all lectins (including gluten), nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant) and salicylates.

Asperger Syndrome, Tourette Syndrome, Addison's disease (adrenal insufficiency), hypothyroidism, fatigue syndrome, asthma


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