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safyre Newbie

I've been reading this forum for a few days now since I got the results from an Adrenal Stress Index my chiropractor did on me via Diagnos-Tech.

I've always been a scientific type of person and having a chiropractor tell me I have this & that hasn't set well with me & thrown me into all sorts of confusion.

My gliadin was 66 & my TSH was 600. And I show adrenal fatigue.

(I don't have the results here otherwise I'd post everything, but those were the main problems.)

He told me I'm hypothyroid & Celiac. I headed to my physician & had them draw blood Friday. But no matter how much of a collision I am having in my head about my chiropractor, something set those numbers off and even if my physician comes back all normal, I'm reading that doesn't mean much.

The Celiac was out of no where to me. I have never noticed an issue with wheat, but now I realize it could be...

If you read the symptoms for hypothyroidism, that's pretty much me to a T except for the hairloss & dry patchy skin.

I've been having indigestion like no tomorrow recently. I have a bowel movement once every 4 days or more. I am so moody, depressed, apathetic, no libido at all, recently I've been itchy... I feel like I've been falling a part. My 'good' days are few & far between now a days. I will cry at the toss of a hat it seems out of pure frustration for no real reason at all. I'm withdrawn and just don't feel like doing anything at all. I can't lose weight no matter what I do. I also have anxiety attacks & migraines from time to time.

Sorry for the long post, I just seriously needed to vent. All I want is my life back and waiting for these tests to come back will be an eternity.... if they will be accurate or not. *sigh*

I have not altered my eating patterns for the time being. After talking to my mom, as far as she knew no one in our family has ever been diagnosed with it - but thyroid problems are there.

Thanks for letting me vent.

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Hi

I am hypothyroid too. My TSH was 2,5 but my free t4 was scratching the bottom of the normal range when I started thyroid meds......

If the TSH was 66, this was quite high. Are you sure it was not 6,00? But that is high too. I am sure the TSH will be abnormal at your doctor's too, because the numbers move very slow.

Gluten is known to trigger hypothyroidism. If you had been living in a place where they rarely eat gluten, you might not have gotten hypo.....

You might also ask for a test for the thyroid antibodies. This is because when you go gluten-free, the thyroid antibodies typically go down.

About the adrenals, they are usually stressed if you are hypo. This is normal.

nora

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I've been reading this forum for a few days now since I got the results from an Adrenal Stress Index my chiropractor did on me via Diagnos-Tech.

I've always been a scientific type of person and having a chiropractor tell me I have this & that hasn't set well with me & thrown me into all sorts of confusion.

My gliadin was 66 & my TSH was 600. And I show adrenal fatigue.

(I don't have the results here otherwise I'd post everything, but those were the main problems.)

He told me I'm hypothyroid & Celiac. I headed to my physician & had them draw blood Friday. But no matter how much of a collision I am having in my head about my chiropractor, something set those numbers off and even if my physician comes back all normal, I'm reading that doesn't mean much.

The Celiac was out of no where to me. I have never noticed an issue with wheat, but now I realize it could be...

If you read the symptoms for hypothyroidism, that's pretty much me to a T except for the hairloss & dry patchy skin.

I've been having indigestion like no tomorrow recently. I have a bowel movement once every 4 days or more. I am so moody, depressed, apathetic, no libido at all, recently I've been itchy... I feel like I've been falling a part. My 'good' days are few & far between now a days. I will cry at the toss of a hat it seems out of pure frustration for no real reason at all. I'm withdrawn and just don't feel like doing anything at all. I can't lose weight no matter what I do. I also have anxiety attacks & migraines from time to time.

Sorry for the long post, I just seriously needed to vent. All I want is my life back and waiting for these tests to come back will be an eternity.... if they will be accurate or not. *sigh*

I have not altered my eating patterns for the time being. After talking to my mom, as far as she knew no one in our family has ever been diagnosed with it - but thyroid problems are there.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Your celiac panels done by the lab your chiro uses are very high. They really leave no doubt and while he was the savvy person who ordered your tests they are diagnostic in themselves. Did you take copies of these labs to your regular doctor? He might not feel a need to do the same test over again.

Welcome to the ever expanding world of celiac. It does take some time to get used to but in the long run you will be so glad that this has been found. Your chiro may have not only saved your life in the long run he has also saved your quality of life. You have found a good place for info and support, don't be afraid to ask any question no matter how gross or silly you may think it to be.

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Your celiac panels done by the lab your chiro uses are very high. They really leave no doubt and while he was the savvy person who ordered your tests they are diagnostic in themselves. Did you take copies of these labs to your regular doctor? He might not feel a need to do the same test over again.

Welcome to the ever expanding world of celiac. It does take some time to get used to but in the long run you will be so glad that this has been found. Your chiro may have not only saved your life in the long run he has also saved your quality of life. You have found a good place for info and support, don't be afraid to ask any question no matter how gross or silly you may think it to be.

I did take the results to my (ex)PCP. He was boggled that this 'quack' would be running these tests on me and throwing around 'unlicensed diagnoses'. He said it did warrant further testing but only tested TSH (no free t3 or 4's - will only do that if the TSH is off) and it was .38 with a reference of .40-4.0. He ordered a celiac, but it hasn't come back yet. I'm sure it was only one of the panels.

My PCP told the nurse to tell me "I must have been fighting a virus"

I hate the fact he doesn't explain test results to you unless you make an appointment to see him & MAKE him do it. It's time to find someone new.

I have no idea what to think anymore, but have an appointment with a specialist Monday.

The celiac possibility surprised me as I had never heard of it and only the last couple of weeks (aside from the ongoing constipation - is that even a celiac symptom? I thought D was) I have been having intestinal issues - namely gas & bouts of heartburn/indigestion that lasts days on end that antacids of any & all kinds don't relieve.

As I said - I have not changed my diet simply because I think I need more tests.

Maybe I should go for the stool test.

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Here are the actual Diagnos-Tech results:

Adrenal Stress

7-8am 7 Depressed (REF: 13-24 nM)

11-Noon 7 Depressed (REF: 5-10 nM)

4-5PM 4 Normal (REF: 3-8 nM)

11-Midnight 3 Normal (REF: 1-4 nM)

(FLATLINED)

Cortisol Burden 21 (REF: 23-42)

DHEA 6 Normal (REF: 3-10 ng/ml)

Saliva Thyroid

TSH > 600 High (REF: Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml)

fT4 .22 Normal (REF: Normal: .17-.42 ng/dl)

fT3 .64 Normal (REF: Normal: .28-1.10 pg/ml)

TPO: Negative - Normal

Total Salivary

SIgA 39 Normal (REF: Normal: 25-60mg/dl)

Gliadin Ab, SIgA 66 Positive (REF: Borderline: 13-15 U/ml, Positive >15 U/ml)

Insulin

Fasting < 3 (REF: Normal: 3-12 uIU/mL)

Post-prandial < 3 (REF: Optimal: 5 to 20 uIU/mL)

Progesterone 19 (REF: Optimal: 22-100 pg/ml)

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If you ask your doctor to test you for celiac, ask him to run the full Celiac panel, which consists of five tests:

From Columbia University: Open Original Shared Link

Serologic panel

Of the commercially available serologic tests that aid in the diagnosis of celiac disease, no one test is ideal. Using multiple serologies increases the diagnostic yield. Therefore, in the United States, screening in patients with possible celiac disease should consist of a panel of the following serologic tests:

Anti-gliadin antibodies (AGA) both IgA and IgG

Anti-endomysial antibodies (EMA) - IgA

Anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTG) - IgA

Total IgA level.

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