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I have been on the anti-candida diet for over a year now. Lately I have fallen off the bandwagon and I know I need to get back on. I have been rotating antifungals with probiotics for a long time now. The rule of thumb is to switch it up so the yeast don't become immune to your antifungal. I do pau d'arco tea, caprylic acid, coconut oil and milk, garlic, trying Humaworm right now, probiotics. I use HMF by Genestra. It is a human strain probiotic.

I have used Threelac and with good results but I have talked with people who it actually made worse. This is because it has some soil based organisms which can feed bad bacteria's in some people. You probably wouldn't know what kind of bacterias are going on unless you had an upper GI panel. Diagnos Techs does them. http://www.diagnostechs.com/main.htm

Also, I have heard great things about custom probiotics. http://www.customprobiotics.com/

I have been reading "Bacteria for Breakfast" which is very interesting, but very complicated reading! :o

OVer a year and a half ago I had such a bad yeast problem that I could not eat anything with any amount of unnatural or natural sugar. I was VERY strict. When I started that kind of diet I lost 25 pounds in about 2 months and my anxiety totally went away. I felt the best that I ever had. Unfortunately, when I started adding back foods, my symptoms would come back. This led me down the road of searching out "why" my body could not keep the candida at bay. I figured out I have heavy metals which are putting a huge strain on my immune system.

So I did some research and thought I would chelate on my own. This was before I really knew all the proper steps one must take in these circumstances. I believe that I moved metals and reabsorbed them. I truly thought I was going to die!!! It was terrible. Thanks to activated charcoal, dry skin brushing and detox baths I got much better.

Yeast wrap around mercury in the body so when they are "killled" off they release not only the toxins of the dead fungi, but also mercury can be released. It's good to keep those elimination organs working to the best of their ability. Lemon water is very alkalizing to the blood which is good because candida makes us very acidic.

What helped me also is digestive enzymes.

There is A LOT of good information on this other board I visit. http://s11.invisionfree.com/Health_411

Happy Candida Killing!!! :P:P:lol::)

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I have been on the anti-candida diet for over a year now. Lately I have fallen off the bandwagon and I know I need to get back on. I have been rotating antifungals with probiotics for a long time now. The rule of thumb is to switch it up so the yeast don't become immune to your antifungal. I do pau d'arco tea, caprylic acid, coconut oil and milk, garlic, trying Humaworm right now, probiotics. I use HMF by Genestra. It is a human strain probiotic.

I have used Threelac and with good results but I have talked with people who it actually made worse. This is because it has some soil based organisms which can feed bad bacteria's in some people. You probably wouldn't know what kind of bacterias are going on unless you had an upper GI panel. Diagnos Techs does them. http://www.diagnostechs.com/main.htm

Also, I have heard great things about custom probiotics. http://www.customprobiotics.com/

I have been reading "Bacteria for Breakfast" which is very interesting, but very complicated reading! :o

OVer a year and a half ago I had such a bad yeast problem that I could not eat anything with any amount of unnatural or natural sugar. I was VERY strict. When I started that kind of diet I lost 25 pounds in about 2 months and my anxiety totally went away. I felt the best that I ever had. Unfortunately, when I started adding back foods, my symptoms would come back. This led me down the road of searching out "why" my body could not keep the candida at bay. I figured out I have heavy metals which are putting a huge strain on my immune system.

So I did some research and thought I would chelate on my own. This was before I really knew all the proper steps one must take in these circumstances. I believe that I moved metals and reabsorbed them. I truly thought I was going to die!!! It was terrible. Thanks to activated charcoal, dry skin brushing and detox baths I got much better.

Yeast wrap around mercury in the body so when they are "killled" off they release not only the toxins of the dead fungi, but also mercury can be released. It's good to keep those elimination organs working to the best of their ability. Lemon water is very alkalizing to the blood which is good because candida makes us very acidic.

What helped me also is digestive enzymes.

There is A LOT of good information on this other board I visit. http://s11.invisionfree.com/Health_411

Happy Candida Killing!!! :P:P:lol::)

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Thanks April...great info and thanks for the link.

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April,

Thank you for all that info, it was very nice to hear from someone that has been doing it for awhile. I saved that link last night but havent gotten to looking at it yet. I keep getting up to clean an room then sit right back down. Im trying to put off eating til i have my house clean lol. I guess i should at least have my lemon water.

I can say one thing about starting the candida diet is i am having more normal bm's now. I dont know if that is a good thing or not tho, im use to one a day not 3 lol. But hubby was telling me u are getting all that bad stuff out so it must be good.

paula

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Thanks for posting April. I hope you'll check in on us every once in awhile! Your experience is so valuable.

What are you doing now that you're past your nightmare chelation experience? Are you doing it again under a doctor's care?

For those of you taking enzymes, what kind are you taking?

For those of you taking garlic, what kind do you take (if besides raw)?

I've been nauseated the last two days. No idea why. It's not a symptom I usually have with the gut problems. Yeast die off? Trouble with all the black walnut, caprylic acid, etc I'm taking?

Have you all read anything about high-dose Vit K treatment? There's some talk of it in the yahoo groups and some research behind it. I can find links if you all are interested.

Glad I checked in here...I forget to drink my lemon!

Florence

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Thanks for posting April. I hope you'll check in on us every once in awhile! Your experience is so valuable.

What are you doing now that you're past your nightmare chelation experience? Are you doing it again under a doctor's care?

For those of you taking enzymes, what kind are you taking?

For those of you taking garlic, what kind do you take (if besides raw)?

I've been nauseated the last two days. No idea why. It's not a symptom I usually have with the gut problems. Yeast die off? Trouble with all the black walnut, caprylic acid, etc I'm taking?

Have you all read anything about high-dose Vit K treatment? There's some talk of it in the yahoo groups and some research behind it. I can find links if you all are interested.

Glad I checked in here...I forget to drink my lemon!

Florence

Florence,

I tried to chelate on my own without really knowing what I was doing. I didn't have all my bases covered. I didn't even know about activated charcoal which would have really helped me. I ate cilantro for 5 days straight and I believe it moved metals and all of a sudden I was very messed up. My head felt very heavy, I could hardly walk, Everything hurt, my chest was heavy. It was SO scary! I posted on Yeast connection for help and one person told me to do detox baths and activated charcoal. This is what saved me! I started doing those everyday as much as I could and it really helped.

AFTER I started looking into detoxing the right way! Plus I saw the ND about detoxing for my kids and she had a whole protocol put together. You really have to cover all your bases when dealing with metals.

I have started trying to do better with the candida diet and I have felt nauseaus a lot today. ugh! I started carpylic acid.

For garlic I always use raw. I heard the capsules are just not good. Be careful because the garlic has sulphur which does chelate metals too. I think it is a good idea to plan on some kind of activated charcoal in the regimen especially when you are feeling bad. The garlic works well for me though! I crush it and let it sit for about 10 minutes to activated the "allicin" which is the active ingredient. then just swallow down pieces like pills. If you feel bad from it then slow down so your body can handle what its digging up.

There are some good recipes for salad dressings here http://z11.invisionfree.com/Health_411/ind...hp?showforum=11

I have not heard of vitamin K treatment but be careful if you have a clotting problem because Vitamin K helps your body with coagulation.

I do take digestive enzymes I'll post it later....have to look it up. People with yeast issues usually have some sort of digestion issues as well. Not sure which comes first, but nevertheless it goes hand in hand!!!

You can also find some good info hear www.wholeapproach.com. I used the diet as a guideline when first starting out. www.wholeapproach.com/diet. There are many diets to choose from but all in all you have to find what fits you. Sunbutter fed yeast for me but raw carrots did not. Supposedly they are antifungal in a small way. I did fine on them as snacks. But for others it fed the yeast. So, you have to listen to your body.

I found that going very strict at first helped me actually "see and Feel" what foods did what. And I sort of went from there.

Chat soon!

April

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Thanks for posting April. I hope you'll check in on us every once in awhile! Your experience is so valuable.

What are you doing now that you're past your nightmare chelation experience? Are you doing it again under a doctor's care?

For those of you taking enzymes, what kind are you taking?

For those of you taking garlic, what kind do you take (if besides raw)?

I've been nauseated the last two days. No idea why. It's not a symptom I usually have with the gut problems. Yeast die off? Trouble with all the black walnut, caprylic acid, etc I'm taking?

Have you all read anything about high-dose Vit K treatment? There's some talk of it in the yahoo groups and some research behind it. I can find links if you all are interested.

Glad I checked in here...I forget to drink my lemon!

what does black walnut do?

I havent drank my lemon water either, im off to do that before i eat dinner lol

Tommorow im going to buy some organic ones, i cant wait.

paula

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Ok i need help on what anti candida diet to do. There are so many variations on tv that i am so confused. I find some that say some fruit is ok if it not bruised and sites that say i can drin grapefruit juice and vodka cause it has no yeast. Then some i can eat pototaos and some say no. So what i need to know is what website do u get your information from. Then i find ones that say do it 4 weeks then slowly add food back then others that say wait 3 months to add food back, then i find some that say its for life. Then i find some that say to eat pork then others that say no, u cant have pork, and the same on chili, i found one that says its ok once a week, but others say no cause it can cause stomach upset.

paula

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Paula,

I follow one that my doctor gave me a few years ago. I'll look for the paper then post that. It basically says no yeast, sugar, fermented or aged foods, no fungus (like mushrooms).

There is so much conflicting information out there that I just decided I needed to pick one and it was easier to follow the one from my doctor. It seemed the most logical to me anyway.

I know my doctors (two of them) have said that I should have no more than 1 fruit a day, and may have to limit that to only 1/2 fruit per day. I'm going to try apples this coming week as my evening snack with some nut butter. Green apples are one of the the lowest in sugar (along with berries) I think, so I'll try green first. Bananas are one of the highest fruits in sugar, so that probably wouldn't be good to start with.

I'll look for the paper tonight and try to post tomorrow.

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Ok i need help on what anti candida diet to do. There are so many variations on tv that i am so confused. I find some that say some fruit is ok if it not bruised and sites that say i can drin grapefruit juice and vodka cause it has no yeast. Then some i can eat pototaos and some say no. So what i need to know is what website do u get your information from. Then i find ones that say do it 4 weeks then slowly add food back then others that say wait 3 months to add food back, then i find some that say its for life. Then i find some that say to eat pork then others that say no, u cant have pork, and the same on chili, i found one that says its ok once a week, but others say no cause it can cause stomach upset.

paula

No matter which one you decide you have to feel it out and decide whats best for your body because everyone is different with different food intolerances. I used the www.wholeapproach.com/diet as a rule of thumb. I didn't do any fruit at first. But when you are feeling a bit better, you can add in low sugar like blueberries, strawberries and rasberries. Start slow. If you feel any bit of reaction then stop and wait a little while longer.

The basic thing is to avoid any fruit or veggie that is high in mold contamination. Such as potatoes. They are high in mold on the outer. You could peel but in the first part of the diet, they are very starchy so you might avoid them for the first month or two.

Grapefruit juice should be fine. No alcohol is good because its high in mycotoxins which put an additional burden on your liver.

The only reason I would think pork would not be a good meat choice is because it usually has high amounts of parasites and according to dr. mercola- pork is the dirtiest animal because they will eat anything. I tend to stay away from it for that aspect but do have it occassionally.

I think the time frame is all dependent on your body and how bad the yeast is. The only reason you would do this diet for life is if you don't look into the underlying issues that got you there in the first place, for me heavy metals. Maybe lyme but not been tested for that yet.

Once you have done the diet for a while, then try to add in some antifungals. You don't want to overwhelm your body with die off toxins so go slow. In a systemic candida infection, you will need some sort of antifungal eventually. Then once you have done some "slaughter" to the candida beasts, then you can start adding in a probiotic and replenishing the healthy flora.

You might check out www.yeastconnection.com. Go to the discussion board on the upper left. It was supposed to close down Jan 1st but its still there! That is where I started out and learned a lot.

I really like the invision site I posted. Lots of info on fungus and some good recipes too.

For an example this is how I started out:

Bfast - boiled egg with sea salt

lunch- leftovers from last nights dinner - grilled chicken, green beans, zucchini

snacks- celery and carrot sticks, hummus, homemade green juice

For dinner I always make enough for the next day for lunch. Stay away from moldy foods like peanuts. Limit dairy and gluten. Dairy sugars can feed yeast. Use stevia and xylitol in place of sugar. Xylitol is antifungal so its a good choice plus it tastes like sugar!

Try not to get frustrated with all the info out there. I think the whole approach diet is a good starting point and then go from there....

April

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Thanks april,

I have looked at that one i think, i will go look at it again. I do feel better the last 2 days but not awesome.

yesterday i had organic eggs and tomato

lunch chicken and green beans

dinner an hamburger and green beans.

But i woke up with D, is it cause my body is just trying to clean out, i wasnt in pain just had D.

i forgot i also had lemon water and 2 epson salt baths, one with baking soda and epson last night and i was so wired after i took it, i didnt go to be bed til 12 cause i was still hot, finally i put the fan on and slept great after that.

Its now 11 and i havent ate cause ive been cleaning and talking on the phone lol

paula

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Paula,

I follow one that my doctor gave me a few years ago. I'll look for the paper then post that. It basically says no yeast, sugar, fermented or aged foods, no fungus (like mushrooms).

There is so much conflicting information out there that I just decided I needed to pick one and it was easier to follow the one from my doctor. It seemed the most logical to me anyway.

I know my doctors (two of them) have said that I should have no more than 1 fruit a day, and may have to limit that to only 1/2 fruit per day. I'm going to try apples this coming week as my evening snack with some nut butter. Green apples are one of the the lowest in sugar (along with berries) I think, so I'll try green first. Bananas are one of the highest fruits in sugar, so that probably wouldn't be good to start with.

I'll look for the paper tonight and try to post tomorrow.

Thanks no hurry on posting.

Your night snack sounds good i love green apples, i will look for some organic ones today and i will look into nut butter, we do have some almond butter in the fridge,would that work.

There is so much info out there that i was going crazy yesterday, but i figured this was going to be trial and error so that is ok.

paula

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Paula, almond butter would be very good...as long as it doesn't have added sugar. My one practitioner says that almonds are among the lowest as far as sugars/mold, etc. She asked me how I was doing and I told her I had been "cheating" with almond butter and almonds and that's when she said that almond butter wasn't really that bad. Unfortunately not long after that I started semi-reacting to it, but I'm going to try again...maybe rotating my nut butters until I can figure out something better to eat.

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Paula, almond butter would be very good...as long as it doesn't have added sugar. My one practitioner says that almonds are among the lowest as far as sugars/mold, etc. She asked me how I was doing and I told her I had been "cheating" with almond butter and almonds and that's when she said that almond butter wasn't really that bad. Unfortunately not long after that I started semi-reacting to it, but I'm going to try again...maybe rotating my nut butters until I can figure out something better to eat.

ok ty. I will check the ingredients and see if mine is safe. I hope i dont react to it lol.

paula

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Hi you all.

I'm finding after dinner to be the hardest time to do without sweets or starches. I have to take myself upstairs away from the kitchen because the temptation is too strong.

I'll have to get some activated charcoal and raw garlic. And will go look at that wholeapproach website, April. Thanks for the ideas.

I felt nauseated for two days and today had total water diarrhea. No idea why. I'm not nauseated anymore.

Black walnut is supposed to be anti-fungal and anti-parasitic, that's why I'm taking that.

I started by reading Dr. Bruce Semon's Feast without Yeast. It's a bit dated, but basically good. One of the listmates on the yahoo low oxalate group referred me to it because she and her kids have done well on it.

There's a lot of other stuff I can't eat right now (my whole life prior to two years ago I could eat EVERYTHING), so all of this has to be tailored to my particular weirdness. So, I can't do cow dairy, wheat (of course), nightshade vegetables (includes potatoes), soy, beef/pork, or high oxalate foods (which cuts out berries and almonds for me). If you have a leaky/damaged gut, high amounts of high oxalate foods are going to be a problem -- that includes all berries, nuts, spinach, soy and a lot of other foods. Small amount okay probably.

Where do you all stand on the question of non-cow cheeses? I've been eating non-aged goat cheese and aged manchego sheep cheese in small amounts. There's conflicting stuff out there about whether one really needs to avoid aged cheese and mushrooms. There does seem to be general agreement about no refined sugar and keeping fruit consumption low. I don't eat baked stuff because even the gluten-free flours cause me problems and I'm staying away from carbs, but I know that actual YEAST foods are controversial as well. Sugar feeds candida but it's not clear that other kinds of yeast or fungus actually contribute to candida growth.

Hang in there everyone!

I'm not feeling better yet which is discouraging today. But it's only been about a week.

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Well, I'd eat goat cheese if I could, lol. I LOVE the stuff. I seem to react pretty quickly, so I just stopped trying. I can eat a little sheep yogurt if I don't eat more than 1 container a week. It seems to have a cumulative affect for me. :(

Yeah, I don't know what to say about the yeast and fermentation stuff. I seem to react to mushrooms, and that may just be because of my mold toxicity...doctor said I probably have a higher cross-reactivity because of that. I do seem to do okay with a SMALL amount of mayo or mustard which has vinegar. BUt, the way I understand it, it's not so much that yeast or fermentation feeds it, but rather it's the way it's processed. At least that's what I think I've heard, lol. Don't quote me on that though. :P

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I just looked at the WholeApproach website -- April, are you doing their whole thing? They have a pretty long argument about why we should be taking Caprol instead of caprylic acid in pill form -- about the safflower oil keeping the caprylic acid in contact with the intestines and not forcing the liver to metabolize the caprylic acid too quickly.

The other two main things they suggest -- besides the diet -- is bentonite and psyllium (and not just the husks, but the seeds too).

I gather they suggest people mix all three of these things and take them together -- for killing the yeast, soaking up the toxins, and clearing them through the system.

It makes sense to me, but I don't know whether to buy their stuff or just go to the healthfood store and try to replicate this.

I took a dose of bentonite some months ago because it was recommended in a sort of post-Gottshall selective carb diet book (called Guts and Glory maybe?). I got SO sick from it, but maybe that was because it was mobilizing a bunch of toxins and taking them out? I was scared to try it again.

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I dont do any cheese so im no help. i actually think i react more to casein then to gluten or maybe its causei always knew dairy caused problems for me but never wanted to give them up. I no longer care to eat cheese, i guess i ate enough in my 34 yrs of life that i dont need it anymore lol.

I heard some mayos are safe like sprectrum canola oil on one website i looked at. I was all happy at first thinking i could eat tuna with mayo, then i relaized tuna taste like metal for me, and that is the only thing i like mayo with well that and pototao salad but that is out now.

It is just so hard cause my foods were limited to begin with, before this i couldnt eat gluten casein, soy, beans, garlic and onions. I think that is why i are so many chips and drank beer, i needed some vice lol. I just keep telling me that the other limitations with the candida diet are not for life, I am also hoping once my gut heals from candida and other toxicity that i have if i can go back to casein and soy and beans and what not. I can live without gluten for the rest of my life but it would be nice to have the other stuff again.

There are moments in my life that i think it would be easier to just give up food, i know that is not possible but somedays i wish i could.

paula

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I just looked at the WholeApproach website -- April, are you doing their whole thing? They have a pretty long argument about why we should be taking Caprol instead of caprylic acid in pill form -- about the safflower oil keeping the caprylic acid in contact with the intestines and not forcing the liver to metabolize the caprylic acid too quickly.

The other two main things they suggest -- besides the diet -- is bentonite and psyllium (and not just the husks, but the seeds too).

I gather they suggest people mix all three of these things and take them together -- for killing the yeast, soaking up the toxins, and clearing them through the system.

It makes sense to me, but I don't know whether to buy their stuff or just go to the healthfood store and try to replicate this.

I took a dose of bentonite some months ago because it was recommended in a sort of post-Gottshall selective carb diet book (called Guts and Glory maybe?). I got SO sick from it, but maybe that was because it was mobilizing a bunch of toxins and taking them out? I was scared to try it again.

I didnt even look on there about the pills, i will have to go look at that info, i know i need to start taking something to help out im just freaked out to put stuff into my body. Im sure when i decide i will research the herb for days or weeks then buy them then chicken out lol.

paula

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Catesfolly,

I read that recently about the Caproil. I had seen that also talked about here http://www.askshelley.com/faq.php?p=default&cat=43#a95

I could not find the liquid caprylic acid in my HFS and I had already bought the capsules. I dumped open the capsules and mixed them in with fiber and activated charcoal and tried to replicate it this way. I am sure that its not the same. I think it sounds like a good idea, though and makes sense to me. The psyllium is supposed to help "scrub" the inside of the intestines where yeast can hide and the caproil gets in there to get them.

If bentonite makes you sick, I wouldn't try it again. Try the activated charcoal. I am sure that will help absorb some of the toxins. And if psyllium stops you up like it does some people, be sure to mix in another type of fiber with it.

After dinner is hard for me too. I think its mostly habit. Maybe you could snack on some fresh raw carrots and celery? Or maybe some hummus with it?

Confused,

Are you taking anything for leaky gut? Like L-glutamine? If you take that along with the candida diet, you may see results faster - i would hope.

It seems like I read that gouda cheese was not aged. Something about the aging process creates a moldy cheese environment. Don't quote me on that. I did better when I avoided all cheeses.

My son does okay on goat cheese, he is pretty sensitive. But his yeast issues were not as bad as mine. Little ones are more resiliant, too.

I am pretty sure we are supposed to avoid any type of fungus such as mushrooms. There might be more info here

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Health_411/ind...hp?showforum=37

April

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Found this...wonder if this is why you reacted. The aluminum???

Bentonite Clay & Psyllium Seed Husks Fiber

Bentonite clay is often recommended because it is believed that it covers a huge surface with a very fine layer of clay that allows digestion to take place and helps encrusted fecal matter to loosen from the intestines and be expelled by the psyllium seed fiber.

Unfortunately, it is aluminum-based, and there have been reports that we do indeed absorb some of this aluminum, so if you have any history of using aluminum cookware, drinking from aluminum cans, eating processed meals, or tests that validated aluminum overdose, don't use it. There are other safe things that will help fecal matter come off the walls of the small intestine, such as digestive enzymes and herbs.

If you are prone to chronic constipation and have never cleansed your bowels before, it is unrealistic to simply start taking P&B shakes (shorthand for psyllium and bentonite clay) and expect that to cleanse your colon. Usually the fiber will simply get stuck somewhere. Psyllium is not that friendly a fiber, it is best mixed with other fibers and plenty of fluids or it is prone to turn into cement.

Additionally, the shakes cleanse so slowly that you'll be faced with the healing crisis of stirred-up toxins: gas, bloating, discomfort, brain fog. This happens because dried, encrusted fecal matter is now being removed, moistened, and is able to enter the bloodstream or must be further fermented. The only solution is to cleanse faster, which is why I recommend colonics for the first stage of bowel management.

When supplementing with fiber more is not necessarily better. Don't ask a weak colon to start pumping iron. You wouldn't try to bench press 300 pounds after getting a cast off your arm, right? Same with the colon. Start off with just one rounded teaspoon a day, and never take more than one flat tablespoon at a single time unless you can tell that more is manageable. If you want to take more, it's best to take the same dose multiple times a day at the same time every day. This helps reshape the colon, smooth it out.

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Thanks for the info, April. Where's that from?

I KNOW I should probably go get a colonic, but I cannot for the life of me imagine even getting near it. It sound APPALLING and AWFUL. But of course what's going on inside of me is probably even more appalling and awful.

I do feel like fiber tends to just puff me up. But stuff isn't moving through like it should either.

Ohh decisions decisions!

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Catesfolly,

I read that recently about the Caproil. I had seen that also talked about here http://www.askshelley.com/faq.php?p=default&cat=43#a95

I could not find the liquid caprylic acid in my HFS and I had already bought the capsules. I dumped open the capsules and mixed them in with fiber and activated charcoal and tried to replicate it this way. I am sure that its not the same. I think it sounds like a good idea, though and makes sense to me. The psyllium is supposed to help "scrub" the inside of the intestines where yeast can hide and the caproil gets in there to get them.

If bentonite makes you sick, I wouldn't try it again. Try the activated charcoal. I am sure that will help absorb some of the toxins. And if psyllium stops you up like it does some people, be sure to mix in another type of fiber with it.

After dinner is hard for me too. I think its mostly habit. Maybe you could snack on some fresh raw carrots and celery? Or maybe some hummus with it?

Confused,

Are you taking anything for leaky gut? Like L-glutamine? If you take that along with the candida diet, you may see results faster - i would hope.

It seems like I read that gouda cheese was not aged. Something about the aging process creates a moldy cheese environment. Don't quote me on that. I did better when I avoided all cheeses.

My son does okay on goat cheese, he is pretty sensitive. But his yeast issues were not as bad as mine. Little ones are more resiliant, too.

I am pretty sure we are supposed to avoid any type of fungus such as mushrooms. There might be more info here

http://z11.invisionfree.com/Health_411/ind...hp?showforum=37

April

No im not and i know i need to, i was trying to hold off til i seen my nd on monday after my 3 day stool test. Im sure she will give me along list lol

paula

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Thanks for the info, April. Where's that from?

I KNOW I should probably go get a colonic, but I cannot for the life of me imagine even getting near it. It sound APPALLING and AWFUL. But of course what's going on inside of me is probably even more appalling and awful.

I do feel like fiber tends to just puff me up. But stuff isn't moving through like it should either.

Ohh decisions decisions!

Thats from www.askshelley.com go to faq.

I want to do a colonic too, but I'm like you!!!

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April, this is kind of off the candida topic, but seeing as you mentioned it on this thread...do you use the charcoal to help get rid of the metals that you've moved with the rest of your programme? When do you take the charcoal in relation to everything else?

Thanks!

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