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Response from Carlsberg Beer (DO NOT DRINK IT!!!!!)

Dear _____:

Thank you for your question about the use of barley and wheat in beer brewing.

The main raw material in beer brewing is malt made from barley, i.e. barley malt. All Carlsberg beers are then made from barley. Malt is germinated and dried cereal, where the malting has set the enzymes of barley free to transform the starch of barley into fermentable sugars in the extraction process in the brewhouse.

Speciality beers may also use wheat malt, which gives the beers a characteristic flavour. This kinds of beers normally bear names with "Wheat" or "Weiss", and they are turbid as they are unfiltered.

New legislation has been introduced in the European Members states 25. November 2005. Beer produced, and labelled, from that date shall have information on the label about the type of cereal. If the beer has an ingredient list the raw material shall be mentioned "barley malt" in this list. In case of a wheat beer: "barley malt and wheat malt". In case of no ingredient listing on the beer, the use of the raw materials shall be disclosed in the following way: "Contains barley malt", or for a wheat beer: "Contains barley malt and wheat malt"

Beers labelled before 25 November 2005 may be sold as long as stocks last, so in the shops beer without this information are still probably on the shelves.

The rules are described in

The purpose of the rules is to protect allergic persons. The directive lists other allergenic substances.

Best regards Kirsten Munk

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Does anyone know what grist's policy is about cross-contamination? Especially where it looks like that company brews a lot of gluteny beers? It makes me a little nervous to drink a beer that is made in the same place as one with lots of barley, unless they're cleaning very well, and even then....

btw, if bards ever does start making beer again, it was really, really good! (well, the non-exploding batches, anyway)

thanks

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Does anyone know where I can get B&J's wine coolers without the malt. They make them, but I have not been able to find any in this area (Mesa, AZ). If anyone knows there I can get some in Las Vegas (Bronchobucs?) I would appreciate exact locations as we will probably be going up there in April or May. Our hot weather will be here soon - a week is only 3 days long at my age :lol: and I would really like to have a wine cooler ever so often on the patio. I really miss that.

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There is now a gluten free beer called New Grist that is brewed by the Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee, WI. I called there and they were very helpful about getting me in contact with the local distributer and now I can buy New Grist at my local store. Depending on where in Michigan you live, it might be fairly easy to get.

I had some for new year's my parents got it for me, and it's awesome. I was in Mil, and wanted to stop by but they were not open for tours at the time... I was hoping to maybe help taste test some of it for them!

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I'm sorry if my last post was misunderstood. As I mentioned gluten-free beers in one country may be non-gluten-free in another.

The Sweedish Agency for food products actually took time to analyze the ppm gluten in a range of beers and they have published the results.

http://www.slv.se/upload/9415/0510_WEBsorttillverkare.pdf

It's in sweedish but please pay attention to the colums "Under 20 ppm", "20-100 ppm" and "100-200 ppm". If a beer is categorized in one of those three categories it's gluten-free. if it's categorized as "Over 200 ppm" it's not gluten-free.

So the report combined with the official answer from Carlsberg in Denmark (i'll try to locate it and post it in english) has convinced me that it's safe to consume Carlsberg Beer (Pilsner), Carlsberg Export and Corona. There is a lot of gluten-free beers in the report but not all off them is sold worldwide so I'll stick to Carlsberg.

To be sure i'm going to write Carlsberg Denmark a mail asking for their opinion on Carlsberg Beers being gluten-free even if it's produced outside denmark/sweeden

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I'm sorry if my last post was misunderstood. As I mentioned gluten-free beers in one country may be non-gluten-free in another.

The Sweedish Agency for food products actually took time to analyze the ppm gluten in a range of beers and they have published the results.

http://www.slv.se/upload/9415/0510_WEBsorttillverkare.pdf

It's in sweedish but please pay attention to the colums "Under 20 ppm", "20-100 ppm" and "100-200 ppm". If a beer is categorized in one of those three categories it's gluten-free. if it's categorized as "Over 200 ppm" it's not gluten-free.

So the report combined with the official answer from Carlsberg in Denmark (i'll try to locate it and post it in english) has convinced me that it's safe to consume Carlsberg Beer (Pilsner), Carlsberg Export and Corona. There is a lot of gluten-free beers in the report but not all off them is sold worldwide so I'll stick to Carlsberg.

To be sure i'm going to write Carlsberg Denmark a mail asking for their opinion on Carlsberg Beers being gluten-free even if it's produced outside denmark/sweeden

You have to be careful with this. First off its in Swedish which we don't understand. Second even if it is gluten-free in Sweden does not mean it would be gluten-free in the US. Also, posters in other threads have stated that these beer companies are only testing for wheat gluten when they announce that their mainstream beer is gluten-free. As you know beer is also made from barley which is not gluten free. If they are only testing for wheat gluten then the test is N/G.

I just purchased the Ramapo Valley Brewery gluten-free beer in a Whole Foods in Mahattan. Have not tasted it yet. I'm waiting for the weekend.

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If it's not confirmed directly by Heineken consider it a rumour. As far as I know only Carlsberg has officially confirmed that some of their beers is gluten-free. Carlsberg Pilsner and Carlsberg Export is gluten-free but it can differ from region to region.

To be absolutely sure you should contact your local Carlsberg office. I did and the beers for the Nordic markets is gluten-free. Http://info.carlsberg.com/Info/frameset.htm

Btw Corona is gluten-free (made of corn)

Corona is gluten-free??........That's great if true

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Second even if it is gluten-free in Sweden does not mean it would be gluten-free in the US.

the US doesn't have a gluten-free standard. i would be much more skeptical of something "gluten-free" in the US than I would in europe since at least there they are actually adhering to a standard.

personally, I prefer american products that are voluntarily using the European standard. i just feel more comfortable having an actual standard than just someone's word that something is "gluten free"

another thing i'm confused on - if these beer tests are only testing for wheat gluten, and the beers are only made from barely, why are they coming up with ANY gluten in there at all?!?! it seems if a beer is only made from barley (which many are) it should actually be coming up at 0 ppm on a purely wheat gluten test. that has always confused me.

i remember a while back someone saying you couldn't test for the "gluten" (horedin) that's in barley - but wouldn't that effectively mean we shouldn't eat anything from a facility where barley was also used since a company could never see if their product was suffering from cross-contamination or not?!

i'm very confused :(

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I still am a fan of Ramapo, but I would like to try New Grist, does anyone know if I can get it in NY?

Their website - newgrist.com states it is now available nationwide and several posters here have said Whole Foods is going to carry. So hopefully it will be available in NY soon. New grist also has a phone # on the site if you want you local liquor store to carry it.

I have the RVB gluten-free beer as well but I am waiting for Super Bowl Sunday to have some.

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Their website - newgrist.com states it is now available nationwide and several posters here have said Whole Foods is going to carry. So hopefully it will be available in NY soon. New grist also has a phone # on the site if you want you local liquor store to carry it.

I have the RVB gluten-free beer as well but I am waiting for Super Bowl Sunday to have some.

Just wanted to update on the RVB gluten-free beer and offer a suggestion. The first one I drank was very sweet. Obviously, since its made with honey and molassess. I wasn't realy enjoying it and thought I had wasted $30 for three 6 packs. Well, my sister suggested I put a lemon in it like you do with a Corona. After, that I thought it was great. So if at first you don't like it try the lemon trick.

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This thread is long dead, but since this thread caused me to test some different beers for gluten.....I had to post.

I recently ordered the Haven Gluten Flow Through Test from www.elisa-tek.com .

I then proceeded to test:

Guiness

Heineken

Sol

Coronita Extra (small Corona bottle)

Stella Artois

Budweiser

La Messeger (gluten free beer)

I had been told over the years that some of these were gluten free and some were not... Well after doing the tests, everything had gluten except the Coronita and the La Messeger. The Coronita is imported from Mexico to here (Canada) and not bottled locally. I have not done further testing as of yet on Corona Extra, but one can assume with very high confidence that it would also pass the test. What's interesting is that Sol has gluten, but not the Coronita.

The tests are sensitive to 10-20 ppm and very easy to use. They cost me 14$ a test or so.

Now the caveats:

1. I performed this test on my local beer, beer varies a great deal by region.

2. The Coronita was imported from Mexico, which would make me believe that anyone in North America would be getting the same beer, but check what the bottle says.

3. The test spot came up completely blank as compared to the control spot, ie. ZERO gluten, but maybe you are more sensitive to gluten than the test.

So in closing. I have enough evidence for me to drink Coronita Extra and Corona Extra....but I will retest it every year, just to be sure. I highly recommend you buy the test and do the test yourself. They sell it in packages as low as two tests and it is well worth it.

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The Anhieser Bush Redbridge beer is gluten free. It is sorghum based. It actually tastes good. I don't know if bars/rest carry it, but it is at my local ABC package store and it doesn't cost anymore than the other beers.

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Redbridge (Anhauser-Busch) is great. I am a beer drinker of the first order, and RedBridge tastes good. So far, I have to buy it at the store. No bars or restaurants carry it, but I am working on my neighborhood watering hole.

Take heart Lads and Lassies. Soon we will have a gluten-free version of everythying. Life is good!

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