Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Negative Blood Test...should I Be Skeptical?


leadmeastray88

Recommended Posts

leadmeastray88 Contributor

I've been suspicious that I have Celiac's for a few months now. Here are my symptoms:

-lower abdominal cramping

-extreme fatigue

-nausea (especially after eating, and when I wake up)

-bloating

-irregular bowels

I am also vitamin B deficient, I don't know if that is related or not.

I had a blood test a few weeks ago and i got the results today - they were negative.

Did anyone else have the same symptoms and had a negative blood test but positive biopsy? I'd love some reassurance :)

Thanks in advance!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Tim-n-VA Contributor

All medical tests have false positives and false negatives so there is always some reason to be skeptical of any result.

You said you suspected celiac, had you modified your diet prior to the test? Most medical tests for celiac are testing for a reaction to gluten or damage caused by gluten. If you were off gluten prior to your test you have even more reason to be skeptical.

Other diseases overlap celiac in symptoms so that is a reason not to be skeptical, especially if you were still eating gluten.

leadmeastray88 Contributor
You said you suspected celiac, had you modified your diet prior to the test? Most medical tests for celiac are testing for a reaction to gluten or damage caused by gluten. If you were off gluten prior to your test you have even more reason to be skeptical.

No, I have not modified my diet at all. I have been eating as normally as possible, although I find it hard to because I always feels nauseous after I eat.

I have also noticed that I have dropped 6 pounds since December. :S

Ursa Major Collaborator

There are some people here who had negative blood work and a positive biopsy. But it is true that if you started the gluten-free diet prior to the blood test, then you are even more likely to get a false negative.

If you still think you have celiac disease (which is a definite possibility) you could have an endoscopy with biopsy. If that comes back negative (if you do it) you can try the gluten-free diet. There are plenty of people here who are on the diet who either never had testing or had negative testing, but know they are gluten intolerant because of the amazing difference on the gluten-free diet.

I have never had any testing done, but I will get an awful reaction if I eat gluten, so I don't.

leadmeastray88 Contributor
There are some people here who had negative blood work and a positive biopsy. But it is true that if you started the gluten-free diet prior to the blood test, then you are even more likely to get a false negative.

If you still think you have celiac disease (which is a definite possibility) you could have an endoscopy with biopsy. If that comes back negative (if you do it) you can try the gluten-free diet. There are plenty of people here who are on the diet who either never had testing or had negative testing, but know they are gluten intolerant because of the amazing difference on the gluten-free diet.

I have never had any testing done, but I will get an awful reaction if I eat gluten, so I don't.

Thanks fo the great info :)

It's nice to have some support, because I've had many health issues the past few years and I've been from doctor to doctor telling me that things are in my head when they really aren't...and then they put their foot in their mouth after they've been proven wrong.

I just want to know what is wrong with me, that's all. At this point, I'm indifferent to what it is, I just want to know.

kayavara Rookie
Thanks fo the great info :)

It's nice to have some support, because I've had many health issues the past few years and I've been from doctor to doctor telling me that things are in my head when they really aren't...and then they put their foot in their mouth after they've been proven wrong.

I just want to know what is wrong with me, that's all. At this point, I'm indifferent to what it is, I just want to know.

I am one of those people that have had a negative blood test and biopsy (although my biopsy reads"villous blunting and atrophy").....it's being called negative by the lab but perhaps questionable by the GI.He did tell me negative tests were not uncommon because of numerous reasons. I went gluten free when the he called and said to do so around 6 weeks ago.....even after he received the negative biopsy report....partly because of my bloating,stomach distention,gas,depression,heartburn,numerous aches and pains,itchy skin (not defined as DH)etc.

I was instructed to do so for about 4 months when he would then do another biopsy to see if the villi were healed.I started feeling better within days and continue to do so.I have had some pain from costochondritis for the last day or so along with some heartburn issues....but I think that is getting better today.I don't know if the costo and celiac are related are not but it would not surprise me.I know what you mean about needing to know what is wrong.It was driving me nuts!

I feel like a different person now.I was going down hill fast and was getting very depressed.I really attribute my well being to the diet change even though my dx has not been official.My scope scheduled for August may or may not tell the tale....but I can't see going back to gluten at this point.

Good luck

happygirl Collaborator

Which celiac blood tests did you have run?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

Yes you should be skeptical. Up to 30% or celiacs will show up negative on blood work. If I had relied on blood work I would be dead now. I had countless panels done with negative results but within a short time of eliminating gluten many of my problems were history or at the minimum in remission. Those were not minor issues as you can see by my signature. After you are done with all the testing you desire to do make sure no matter what the results that you give the diet a good strict try for at least a few months.

leadmeastray88 Contributor
Yes you should be skeptical. Up to 30% or celiacs will show up negative on blood work. If I had relied on blood work I would be dead now. I had countless panels done with negative results but within a short time of eliminating gluten many of my problems were history or at the minimum in remission. Those were not minor issues as you can see by my signature. After you are done with all the testing you desire to do make sure no matter what the results that you give the diet a good strict try for at least a few months.

Wow, that is definitely reassuring :)

I think no matter which way my tests go I am going to try the diet anyway and just see how I feel. Then I'll know. Even if I don't have a proper dx if it makes me feel better I'm willing to do anything at this point. I feel like I'm slowly getting more and more depressed and frustrated because I don't know what's wrong.

Thank you all for your support, it's much appreciated! :)

ravenwoodglass Mentor
Wow, that is definitely reassuring :)

I think no matter which way my tests go I am going to try the diet anyway and just see how I feel. Then I'll know. Even if I don't have a proper dx if it makes me feel better I'm willing to do anything at this point. I feel like I'm slowly getting more and more depressed and frustrated because I don't know what's wrong.

Thank you all for your support, it's much appreciated! :)

Bear in mind also that gluten for many of us is a neurotoxin, so you may feel a bit more moody when you first stop consuming. This will pass.

Be sure to read as much as you can here, the diet is tricky at first because there are so many things to consider other than just food. When you first go gluten-free it is a good idea to try to go with whole unprocessed foods and do drop dairy in the beginning. It will help speed healing and you can add it back in after you are feeling good again. Many of us will have problems with dairy that go away after we heal but some of us do have a milk protein intolerance also and that can confuse things if we go gluten free but still consume dairy.

leadmeastray88 Contributor
Bear in mind also that gluten for many of us is a neurotoxin, so you may feel a bit more moody when you first stop consuming. This will pass.

Be sure to read as much as you can here, the diet is tricky at first because there are so many things to consider other than just food. When you first go gluten-free it is a good idea to try to go with whole unprocessed foods and do drop dairy in the beginning. It will help speed healing and you can add it back in after you are feeling good again. Many of us will have problems with dairy that go away after we heal but some of us do have a milk protein intolerance also and that can confuse things if we go gluten free but still consume dairy.

That's great advice, I never even considered something like that!

So other than the basic dairy products, what kinds of foods contain milk protein/ have milk derivatives?

nora-n Rookie

About the milk proteins, bothe me and my daughter do not tolerate traces of milk either.

mostly we make tood from scratch but there are lots of foods that are both gluten-free and milk-free but it takes a lot of reading.

many parents with autistic children have them on gluten-and milk-free diets, as gluten and milk are neurotoxins to autists.

I think they have lits of foods so you do not have to invent the proverbial wheel all over again.

You might find them by searching for Gluten-free Casein-free or gluten sein free or something like that.

I did read Dr. Reichelt's postings on the subject, interesting.

It was the first thing i looked for after I got acomputer, as iI have a sister with some problems.

nora

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      My only proof

    2. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      My only proof

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      44

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,548
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    KandiWoods
    Newest Member
    KandiWoods
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      I think, after reading this, that you areso traumatized by not being able yo understand what your medical advisors have been  what medical conditions are that you would like to find a group of people who also feel traumatized who would agree with you and also support you. You are on a crusade much as the way the US Cabinet  official, the Health Director of our nation is in trying to change what he considers outdated and incorrect health advisories. He does not have the education, background or experience to be in the position he occupies and is not making beneficial decisions. That man suffered a terrible trauma early in his life when his father was assonated. We see now how he developed and worked himself into a powerful position.  Unless you are willing to take some advice or  are willing to use a few of the known methods of starting on a path to better health then not many of us on this Celiac Forum will be able to join you in a continuing series of complaints about medical advisors.    I am almost 90 years old. I am strictly gluten free. I use 2 herbs to help me stay as clear minded as possible. You are not wrong in complaining about medical practitioners. You might be more effective with a clearer mind, less anger and a more comfortable life if you would just try some of the suggestions offered by our fellow celiac volunteers.  
    • Jmartes71
      Thus has got to STOP , medical bit believing us! I literally went through 31 years thinking it was just a food allergy as its downplayed by medical if THEY weren't the ones who diagnosed us! Im positive for HLA-DQ2 which is first celiac patient per Iran and Turkey. Here in the States especially in Cali its why do you feel that way? Why do you think your celiac? Your not eating gluten so its something else.Medical caused me depression. I thought I was safe with my former pcp for 25 years considering i thought everything I went through and going through will be available when I get fired again for health. Health not write-ups my health always come back when you're better.Im not and being tossed away at no fault to my own other than shitty genes.I was denied disability because person said he didn't know how to classify me! I said Im celiac, i have ibs, hernia, sciatica, high blood pressure, in constant pain have skin and eye issues and menopause intensified everything. With that my celiac nightmare began to reprove my disregarded disease to a bunch of clowns who think they are my careteam when they said I didn't have...I feel Im still breathing so I can fight this so no body else has to deal with this nightmare. Starting over with " new care team" and waisting more time on why I think I am when diagnosed in 1994 before food eliminated from my diet. P.s everything i went through I did write to medical board, so pretty sure I will continue to have a hard time.
    • knitty kitty
      @Scatterbrain, Thiamine Vitamin B1 and amino acid Taurine work together.  Our bodies can make Taurine from meats consumed.  Our bodies cannot make Thiamine and must consume thiamine from food.  Meat is the best source of B vitamins like Thiamine.   Vegetarians may not make sufficient taurine since they don't eat meat sources of taurine.  Seaweed is the best vegetarian source of taurine. Vegetarians may not consume sufficient Thiamine since few veggies are good sources.  Whole grains, legumes, and nuts and seeds contain thiamine.  Many of these sources can be hard to digest and absorb for people with Celiac disease.   You may find taking the forms of thiamine called Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and a B Complex will give the benefits you're looking for better than taurine alone.  
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I went to Doterra's site and had a look around.  The Doterra TerraZyme supplement really jumped out at me.  Since we, as Celiacs, often have digestive problems, I looked at the ingredients.  The majority of the enzymes in this supplement are made using black mold, Aspergillus!  Other enzymes are made by yeast Saccharomyces!  Considering the fact that Celiac often have permeable intestines (leaky gut syndrome), I would be very hesitant to take a product like this.  Although there may not be live black mold or yeast in the product, the enzymes may still cause an immune system response which would definitely cause inflammation throughout the body.   Skin, eyes, and intestines are all made from the same basic type of cells.  Your skin on the outside and eyes can reflect how irritated the intestines are on the inside.  Our skin, eyes, and intestines all need the same vitamins and nutrients to be healthy:  Vitamin A, Niacin B3 and Tryptophan, Riboflavin B2, Biotin B7, Vitamin C, and Omega Threes.  Remember that the eight B vitamins work together.  Just taking high doses of just one, vitamin like B12, can cause a deficiency in the others.  Taking high doses of B12 can mask a Folate B9 deficiency.  If you take B12, please take a B Complex, too.  Thiamine B1 can be taken in high doses safely without toxicity.  Thiamine is needed by itself to produce energy so every cell in the body can function, but Thiamine also works with the other B vitamins to make life sustaining enzymes and digestive enzymes.  Deficiencies in either Niacin, Vitamin C, or Thiamine can cause digestive problems resulting in Pellagra, Scurvy, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi.   If you change your diet, you will change your intestinal microbiome.  Following the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, a Paleo diet, will starve out SIBO bacteria.  Thiamine keeps bacteria in check so they don't get out of control as in SIBO.  Thiamine also keeps MOLDS and Yeasts from overgrowth.   Menopause symptoms and menstrual irregularities are symptomatic of low Vitamin D.   Doctors are not as knowledgeable about malnutrition as we need them to be.  A nutritionist or dietician would be more helpful.   Take control of your diet and nutrition.  Quit looking for a pill that's going to make you feel better overnight.  The Celiac journey is a marathon, not a sprint.   "Let food be your medicine, and let medicine be your food."
    • RUKen
      The Lindt (Lindor) dairy-free oat milk truffles are definitely gluten-free, and (last time I checked) so are the white chocolate truffles and the mint chocolate truffles. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.