Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Gluten In Anesthesia?


Amber M

Recommended Posts

Amber M Explorer

New Question. My gluten free friend just had a procedure in which she had to be knocked out. For a week now she has been very ill with all of the neurological symptoms like what I have. (Gluten Ataxia) She has seen the Doctor and spoken with the Anesthesiologist a few times. They are not sure what is happening. She got the list of 6 drugs they used (isn't that amazing that they use 6 drugs?) and we looked on the gluten free drug list and found 3. The other 3 are not on there. I can not seem to locate the "inactive" ingredients in them. If they do contain gluten, it surely went straight to the brain as they were liquid intravenously administered. The drugs not on the gluten free list were: Propofl, Fentanyl and Dramamine.

Anyone know or can you tell me where to find out? I would appreciate any help. Thanks


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



MaryJones2 Enthusiast

I don't know of any IV drugs that contain gluten. The gluten is usually in the starch used to hold pills together.

Amber M Explorer
I don't know of any IV drugs that contain gluten. The gluten is usually in the starch used to hold pills together.

Thanks, is this information from research or you just don't think so? I need more to go on. Thank you so much

psawyer Proficient

Gluten is used as a glue or binder in solids and in viscous liquids such as gravies.

Nothing that is administered IV or by any other form of injection is a worry with regards to gluten. The last thing on earth that you would want in such a substance is a thickener.

I suppose that a topical anesthetic, such as used in dentistry prior to injecting the primary local anesthetic, might be a source of gluten.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

The IV drugs should have been safe. Did she take anything to relax her before the procedure? Some doctors will prescribe a oral sedative to be taken before hand and that could have gotten her. Did she have any prep like with a colonoscopy? The active ingredient in those is gluten-free but the flavoring they use may not be. She also could be having an idiosyncratic reaction to one of the meds. I for example can not take Versed, it takes a very large dose to be effective and makes me very ill and causes neuro reactions that although similar to gluten reactions they are reactions to the drug. Has she talked to her doctor about this?

Amber M Explorer
The IV drugs should have been safe. Did she take anything to relax her before the procedure? Some doctors will prescribe a oral sedative to be taken before hand and that could have gotten her. Did she have any prep like with a colonoscopy? The active ingredient in those is gluten-free but the flavoring they use may not be. She also could be having an idiosyncratic reaction to one of the meds. I for example can not take Versed, it takes a very large dose to be effective and makes me very ill and causes neuro reactions that although similar to gluten reactions they are reactions to the drug. Has she talked to her doctor about this?

Thanks so much people. I am waiting for a pharmacist to get back to me too. She has an auto-immune disease and it appears that the drugs could have caused her immune system to attack the inner ear too. We are not sure yet. She has been to the Doctor and they are working with her. I could not find the pill Darvocet on the gluten free list, so checking on the gluten issue there too. It is not exactly like "vertigo", but similar along with balance and eye disturbances and cognative problems. Thanks so much for the help. I'll post more when I know more.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to Leslie Clark's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      20

      Hidden Gluten in distilled vinegar

    2. - Mynx replied to Leslie Clark's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      20

      Hidden Gluten in distilled vinegar

    3. - Mynx replied to Leslie Clark's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      20

      Hidden Gluten in distilled vinegar

    4. - trents replied to Leslie Clark's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      20

      Hidden Gluten in distilled vinegar

    5. - Mynx replied to Leslie Clark's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      20

      Hidden Gluten in distilled vinegar


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,874
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Charli.stoz09
    Newest Member
    Charli.stoz09
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.5k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Take it easy! I was just prompting you for some clarification.  In the distillation process, the liquid is boiled and the vapor descends up a tube and condenses into another container as it cools. What people are saying is that the gluten molecules are too large and heavy to travel up with the vapor and so get left behind in the original liquid solution. Therefore, the condensate should be free of gluten, no matter if there was gluten in the original solution. The explanation contained in the second sentence I quoted from your post would not seem to square with the physics of the distillation process. Unless, that is, I misunderstood what you were trying to explain.
    • Mynx
      No they do not contradict each other. Just like frying oil can be cross contaminated even though the oil doesn't contain the luten protein. The same is the same for a distilled vinegar or spirit which originally came from a gluten source. Just because you don't understand, doesn't mean you can tell me that my sentences contradict each other. Do you have a PhD in biochemistry or friends that do and access to a lab?  If not, saying you don't understand is one thing anything else can be dangerous to others. 
    • Mynx
      The reason that it triggers your dermatitis herpetiformis but not your celiac disease is because you aren't completely intolerant to gluten. The celiac and dermatitis herpetiformis genes are both on the same chronometer. Dermatitis herpetoformus reacts to gluten even if there's a small amount of cross contamination while celiac gene may be able to tolerate a some gluten or cross contamination. It just depends on the sensitivity of the gene. 
    • trents
      @Mynx, you say, "The reason this is believed is because the gluten protein molecule is too big to pass through the distillation process. Unfortunately, the liquid ie vinegar is cross contaminated because the gluten protein had been in the liquid prior to distillation process." I guess I misunderstand what you are trying to say but the statements in those two sentences seem to contradict one another.
    • Mynx
      It isn't a conjecture. I have gotten glitened from having some distilled white vinegar as a test. When I talked to some of my scientists friends, they confirmed that for a mall percentage of people, distilled white vinegar is a problem. The cross contamination isn't from wheat glue in a cask. While yhe gluten protein is too large to pass through the distillation process, after the distillation process, the vinegar is still cross contaminated. Please don't dismiss or disregard the small group of people who are 100^ gluten intolerant by saying things are conjecture. Just because you haven't done thr research or aren't as sensitive to gluten doesn't mean that everyone is like you. 
×
×
  • Create New...