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If you have a soy intolerance, are the symptoms the same as being glutoned? I suspect I now have a problem with soy, but I'm not sure since this is all so new to me.

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Soy can cause different symptoms in each person. Yours can be completely different from mine.

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If you have a soy intolerance, are the symptoms the same as being glutoned? I suspect I now have a problem with soy, but I'm not sure since this is all so new to me.

Soy causes extreme nausea in me. Your reaction could be different.

My best advise is to keep a food log and mark down any symptoms you may get. Many food reactions are delayed and having a written record helps put the puzzle together. One thing I would add..about 90% of the soy in the US has been genetically modified..around 85% of corn has too. They can cause bad reactions in our guts. I won't knowingly eat any GMO foods any more. Pay attention to your reactions to those especially.

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Thanks! It makes me nauseated, too, and makes my head foggy. I am keeping a food journal.

Good advice about GMO. I didn't realize soy was a part of that. It's so frustrating that California just voted down labeling GMO foods. Also, I was shopping for flours yesterday and it seemed that most of them contained soy lechtin. Ugh.

Soy causes extreme nausea in me. Your reaction could be different.

My best advise is to keep a food log and mark down any symptoms you may get. Many food reactions are delayed and having a written record helps put the puzzle together. One thing I would add..about 90% of the soy in the US has been genetically modified..around 85% of corn has too. They can cause bad reactions in our guts. I won't knowingly eat any GMO foods any more. Pay attention to your reactions to those especially.

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Soy is EVIL ! :ph34r:

Most vegetable oil ( in the US) is soy oil. Due to a legal loophole it does NOT have to have an allergy warning on the label.

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Vegetable oil can contain soy and not include it on the label?

Most vegetable oil ( in the US) is soy oil. Due to a legal loophole it does NOT have to have an allergy warning on the label.

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Vegetable oil can contain soy and not include it on the label?

yes. If your bottle of vegetable oil just says vegetable oil as the ingredients , chances are it is almost all soy oil .

,, the reasoning was something like ,, the soy oil is so processed that it is no longer considered an allergen so there for no longer need an allergen label, quite the legal loophole <_<

things like tuna ,candy, lip balm,shampoo, vitamins and much much more can contain soy . I had a harder time eliminating soy out of my diet then I did gluten .

as I said ................ Soy is evil, pure evil :ph34r:

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I discovered it was in tuna after tuna started making me sick and I was trying to figure out why. Before that I never knew there was soy in tuna.

yes. If your bottle of vegetable oil just says vegetable oil as the ingredients , chances are it is almost all soy oil .

,, the reasoning was something like ,, the soy oil is so processed that it is no longer considered an allergen so there for no longer need an allergen label, quite the legal loophole <_<

things like tuna ,candy, lip balm,shampoo, vitamins and much much more can contain soy . I had a harder time elimating soy out of my diet then I did gluten .

as I said ................ Soy is evil, pure evil :ph34r:

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Soy is similar reaction to gluten and as above makes me super nauseated.

Can't believe it - I can't eat canned tuna either - makes me really sick.

This all came on about 3 - 4 months gluten free and I have wondered if it is one of the reasons I can't eat gluten free processed food (health bars, choc, etc) they all contain soy. In the past (pre gluten-free - I think it was soy that gave me sore breasts).

It is my belief that soy is really bad for humans - get rid of it !! (Why is it in everything anyway :angry: ).

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Soy is similar reaction to gluten and as above makes me super nauseated.

Can't believe it - I can't eat canned tuna either - makes me really sick.

This all came on about 3 - 4 months gluten free and I have wondered if it is one of the reasons I can't eat gluten free processed food (health bars, choc, etc) they all contain soy. In the past (pre gluten-free - I think it was soy that gave me sore breasts).

It is my belief that soy is really bad for humans - get rid of it !! (Why is it in everything anyway :angry: ).

There are soy-free tuna cans available. I don't remember the brand names but there are some. It was some kind of heath or organic brand of tuna that I saw. If you read the ingredients on most tuna it is packed in a broth that includes soy.

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Soy is similar reaction to gluten and as above makes me super nauseated.

Can't believe it - I can't eat canned tuna either - makes me really sick.

This all came on about 3 - 4 months gluten free and I have wondered if it is one of the reasons I can't eat gluten free processed food (health bars, choc, etc) they all contain soy. In the past (pre gluten-free - I think it was soy that gave me sore breasts).

It is my belief that soy is really bad for humans - get rid of it !! (Why is it in everything anyway :angry: ).

There are soy-free tuna cans available. I don't remember the brand names but there are some. It was some kind of heath or organic brand of tuna that I saw. If you read the ingredients on most tuna it is packed in a broth that includes soy.

Starkist gold cans do not have soy. It's just tuna and water.

I'm really caught off guard by the soy intolerance, which happened, as far as I can tell, the same time as I developed either Celiac or gluten intolerance.

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Starkist gold cans do not have soy. It's just tuna and water.

I'm really caught off guard by the soy intolerance, which happened, as far as I can tell, the same time as I developed either Celiac or gluten intolerance.

Soy is evil and really hard to avoid. I knew I'd get sick after eating out sometimes before my DX but never knew it was probably from the soy oil they use so much of.

The theory that there's no soy protein in the oil so shouldn't bother anyone is nonsense! It's hard to get multivitamins that are completly soy free too. The vitamin E or D they use is from cholecalciferol..usually derived from soy.

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Starkist gold cans do not have soy. It's just tuna and water.

I'm really caught off guard by the soy intolerance, which happened, as far as I can tell, the same time as I developed either Celiac or gluten intolerance.

Thank Kiki, I looked at a CVS store today but all they had was Bumblebee and some off brand. The Bumblebee brand has soy in it.

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Thank Kiki, I looked at a CVS store today but all they had was Bumblebee and some off brand. The Bumblebee brand has soy in it.

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Soy is evil and really hard to avoid. I knew I'd get sick after eating out sometimes before my DX but never knew it was probably from the soy oil they use so much of.

The theory that there's no soy protein in the oil so shouldn't bother anyone is nonsense! It's hard to get multivitamins that are completly soy free too. The vitamin E or D they use is from cholecalciferol..usually derived from soy.

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Soy is similar reaction to gluten and as above makes me super nauseated.

Can't believe it - I can't eat canned tuna either - makes me really sick.

This all came on about 3 - 4 months gluten free and I have wondered if it is one of the reasons I can't eat gluten free processed food (health bars, choc, etc) they all contain soy. In the past (pre gluten-free - I think it was soy that gave me sore breasts).

It is my belief that soy is really bad for humans - get rid of it !! (Why is it in everything anyway :angry: ).

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My reaction to soy is severe stomach pain, nausea, and maybe D. It's been awhile. At first I wondered if it was a gluten reaction but it wasn't as bad and didn't last as long.

As for foods, well, now that I'm avoiding gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and nightshades, I am spending a LOT of time in the kitchen. EVERYTHING has to start as live food and is cooked fresh. I am eating more nuts, more eggs, more meats and way more vegetables than I did before. I am cooking a lot now and freezing some so that I can have meals during busy holiday times.

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My reaction to soy is severe stomach pain, nausea, and maybe D. It's been awhile. At first I wondered if it was a gluten reaction but it wasn't as bad and didn't last as long.

As for foods, well, now that I'm avoiding gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and nightshades, I am spending a LOT of time in the kitchen. EVERYTHING has to start as live food and is cooked fresh. I am eating more nuts, more eggs, more meats and way more vegetables than I did before. I am cooking a lot now and freezing some so that I can have meals during busy holiday times.

Do you have a problem with soy lechtin as well?

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Soy is a real bugger.

I get lightheaded and nauseous, and the symptoms usually hit me quite shortly after eating, unlike gluten that takes a while to kick in. I can probably handle small amounts of soy lecthin if I take a digestive enzyme with it, but i've been doing my best to avoid it completely. I miss tofu thought. My bf is vegetarian, so finding/making things both of us can eat with good protein content is tricky.

even if you can eat soy, thought, GMO anything is nasty and should be avoided at all costs, so probably shouldn't be eating it too often.

Tuna is something else I only eat a few times a year because of the mercury content and the over-fishing problem. I NEVER get it in a can, so don't know about this soy broth thing. I'd say don't bother with canned tuna anymore (or switch to salmon).

As for substitutes, there's a good soy-sauce alternative made from coconut sap. It's expensive and tricky to find, but definitely nice.

And this "vegetable" oil = soy would definitely explain some issues I have with certain things that don't list soy as an ingredient. grrrr...

Make sure to check any cosmetics and such you're already using. I had a lip gloss i've been using for months that I finally looked and realised it has soy oil... oh. into the garbage it went.

It's a ton of work to cut out soy, and will probably involve more cooking from scratch, but if it makes you feel better, it's worth it.

Happy Healing

Peg

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Soy is a real bugger.

I get lightheaded and nauseous, and the symptoms usually hit me quite shortly after eating, unlike gluten that takes a while to kick in. I can probably handle small amounts of soy lecthin if I take a digestive enzyme with it, but i've been doing my best to avoid it completely. I miss tofu thought. My bf is vegetarian, so finding/making things both of us can eat with good protein content is tricky.

even if you can eat soy, thought, GMO anything is nasty and should be avoided at all costs, so probably shouldn't be eating it too often.

Tuna is something else I only eat a few times a year because of the mercury content and the over-fishing problem. I NEVER get it in a can, so don't know about this soy broth thing. I'd say don't bother with canned tuna anymore (or switch to salmon).

As for substitutes, there's a good soy-sauce alternative made from coconut sap. It's expensive and tricky to find, but definitely nice.

And this "vegetable" oil = soy would definitely explain some issues I have with certain things that don't list soy as an ingredient. grrrr...

Make sure to check any cosmetics and such you're already using. I had a lip gloss i've been using for months that I finally looked and realised it has soy oil... oh. into the garbage it went.

It's a ton of work to cut out soy, and will probably involve more cooking from scratch, but if it makes you feel better, it's worth it.

Happy Healing

Peg

Thanks, Peg! I never would have thought to check my lip gloss for soy! Ugh.

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I usually feel about the same as being glutened, just with no brain fog/headache. I'm amazed at what does have soy in it, it's everywhere!

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Thanks, Peg! I never would have thought to check my lip gloss for soy! Ugh.

This is how I figured out my soy problem! I didn't use a certain lip balm for two days and felt so much better!

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I usually feel about the same as being glutened, just with no brain fog/headache. I'm amazed at what does have soy in it, it's everywhere!

Thanks for letting me know. It's interesting to me to know how it affects others.

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There are soy-free tuna cans available. I don't remember the brand names but there are some. It was some kind of heath or organic brand of tuna that I saw. If you read the ingredients on most tuna it is packed in a broth that includes soy.

BumbleBee canned tuna labled very low sodium, solid white albacore is safe. It"s the one in the gold can, it"s even corn free!

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BumbleBee canned tuna labled very low sodium, solid white albacore is safe. It"s the one in the gold can, it"s even corn free!

Good to know, thanks Dave!

Being a cheapskate, I generally go for the canned mackeral myself. But once in a while I try some tuna. I just have to fight the cat off to eat it tho. :)

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      If I'm healing, why am I still sick? My gut hurts SO BAD and my life is a literal LIVING HELL, i can't even drink water without severe bloating and pain. I've been severely constipated for months now and the laxatives don't really seem to be working. The doctor wants my intestines to heal before he does anything else... so he's going to to do another endoscopy in a year.... I really don't want to wait around an entire YEAR before they do anything else, my gut hurts so bad I haven't even been able to look for a job, every day is a battle to live.

      Any suggestions on how to help this? I'm so sick and tired of living in severe pain.
    • Brandi1969, Carbs/Sugars as they break down ferment turning into gases causing your bloating quoting Ennistx verbatim and I agree! You can try going low CARB aka Keto or try taking some BetaineHCL to stoke up your digestive fires. I will provide some links that list simple home tests and one that provides doctor supervised testing. Bloating is common with Low Stomach acid. See this ChateLaine article. https://www.chatelaine.com/health/diet/bloated-low-stomach-acid-may-be-the-cause/ The easiest way to do this at home though least scientific way is the Baking Soda test to see if you burp from it. See this article that list 5 ways to test your stomach acid levels including medical tests to confirm what the baking soda tests indicates. https://drjockers.com/5-ways-test-stomach-acid-levels/ If you fail the baking soda test the easiest self testing is to try taking some BetaineHCL to see if it helps your bloating.  I suggest 3 or 4 BetaineHCL capsules with a glass or two of water (or tea/juice if you prefer) after you have begun eating.  It should not be soda because soda's will burp on their own from carbonation. 3 or 4 at  meal is not as high you think it might be. .. it tends to be in the goldilocks zone of not being too little . ..but not too much either. See this article about the simple test of using BetaineHCL for low stomach acid. http://hansacenter.com/simple-at-home-test-for-low-stomach-acid/ quoting read the whole article and these other links when you get a chance. . .but I am highlighting the high points. quoting below from the hansacenter "To perform this (baking soda) test: mix one quarter teaspoon of baking soda in eight ounces of cold water, first thing in the morning, before eating or drinking anything except water. Drink the baking soda solution. Time how long it takes to belch. Time up to five minutes. If you have not belched within five minutes stop timing anyway. If your stomach is producing adequate amounts of hydrochloric acid you should probably belch within two to three minutes. Early and repeated belching may be due to excessive stomach acid. Belching results from the acid and baking soda reacting to form carbon dioxide gas. The Heidelberg or Gastrocap tests can be employed for confirmation of the results of this test. I also look for signs and symptoms of low stomach acid. There are many laboratory test indicators of this condition. Some of these include deficiencies of amino acids, minerals, B vitamins, (My words Vitamin D, Magnesium, Iron, B-12 etc.) and, on digestive analysis, elevated levels of putrefactive short chain fatty acids in the stool. I like to have patients (clinician at hanasacenter) do a therapeutic trial with supplemental betaine HCL. (hydrochloric acid) If you take Betaine HCL after a meal and feel nothing, your stomach is probably not producing enough hydrochloric acid. A normal response to taking betaine HCL is a feeling of warmth in the stomach. For an individual whose hydrochloric acid levels are lacking, I have them gradually work up to supplementing as many as 5 Betaine HCL capsules after meals. Although this may sound like a lot, in response to a very big meal, a healthy stomach produces the equivalent of at least 14 betaine HCL capsules. For optimal results, the protein digesting enzyme, pepsin, should be part of the betaine HCL formulation." I hope this is helpful but It is  not medical advice. I used to take BetaineHCL capsules to improve my digestion because my stomach acid was not strong to digest carbs fast enough to keeep them from fermenting into gases causing severe bloating. If this works right you can taper off the BetaineHCL capsules after a few months. Here are two reference works on this topic.  Low stomach acid is known as Hypochloridia and NO stomach acid is known as Achloridia. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4991651/ notice their figure one about how fast the patient felt better after beginning to take BeatineHCL capsules. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4991651/figure/f1-49-53/?report=objectonly Also see this research theorizing why we develop low stomach acid in first place leading to severe bloating if left untreated. http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2001/articles/2001-v16n04-p225.shtml good luck on your continued journey. ***** Again this is not medical advice but I hope it is helpful. I only know it helped me. As always “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” 2 Timothy 2:7 this included. Posterboy by the grace of God,  
    • Has he had his vitamin and mineral levels checked?  We can be low vitamin D, B's, iron etc.  All those vitamin deficiencies add up to problems with the body healing and maintaining itself.  
    • Ok, I’ll try a probiotic. I already avoid dairy and soy. Hopefully it will help. Thanks!
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