• Join our community!

    Do you have questions about celiac disease or the gluten-free diet?

  • Ads by Google:
     




    Get email alerts Subscribe to Celiac.com's FREE weekly eNewsletter

    Ads by Google:



       Get email alertsSubscribe to Celiac.com's FREE weekly eNewsletter

  • Announcements

    • admin

      Frequently Asked Questions About Celiac Disease   09/30/2015

      This Celiac.com FAQ on celiac disease will guide you to all of the basic information you will need to know about the disease, its diagnosis, testing methods, a gluten-free diet, etc.   Subscribe to Celiac.com's FREE weekly eNewsletter   What are the major symptoms of celiac disease? Celiac Disease Symptoms What testing is available for celiac disease?  Celiac Disease Screening Interpretation of Celiac Disease Blood Test Results Can I be tested even though I am eating gluten free? How long must gluten be taken for the serological tests to be meaningful? The Gluten-Free Diet 101 - A Beginner's Guide to Going Gluten-Free Is celiac inherited? Should my children be tested? Ten Facts About Celiac Disease Genetic Testing Is there a link between celiac and other autoimmune diseases? Celiac Disease Research: Associated Diseases and Disorders Is there a list of gluten foods to avoid? Unsafe Gluten-Free Food List (Unsafe Ingredients) Is there a list of gluten free foods? Safe Gluten-Free Food List (Safe Ingredients) Gluten-Free Alcoholic Beverages Distilled Spirits (Grain Alcohols) and Vinegar: Are they Gluten-Free? Where does gluten hide? Additional Things to Beware of to Maintain a 100% Gluten-Free Diet What if my doctor won't listen to me? An Open Letter to Skeptical Health Care Practitioners Gluten-Free recipes: Gluten-Free Recipes
0
ItchyAbby

Interesting Article On The Correlation Between Wheat Consumption And Heart Disease

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

Ads by Google:
Ads by Google:


Abby,

Yowzers...That's quite an article! Sadly for me, it's full of math and calculations and my brain goes into freeze mode when that starts.

I have to read articles like that maybe 3 times before I can converse intelligently on it.

 

She says there are so many variables to studies such as this one that she thinks it makes it difficult to weigh the data.

I slugged through it and I found myself yelling "hell ya!" at the laptop when she said this::

 

(This also a stellar example of why it’s important to read full-text articles instead of just abstracts, which often don’t tell you diddly about the stuff you want to know.)

 

All too often, I see people post abstracts on here and on blog sites citing the title as "proof" of something they are trying to claim is true. Or they highlight a few sentences out of context to support their case. After I read the entire article, I discover that the conclusion of the study is that the science does not support what was proposed in the overview of the abstract. Or the conclusion is that "further study is warranted". After reading some of the studies and their conclusions, I sometimes feel like this author--seeing the confounders that make the study results questionable. (of course, peer review is one way to decrease the incidences of this occurring)

 

Anyway, I find using these abstracts as "evidence"  deceptive and maddening. When I question the person who posted it, they get mad and/or stop talking to me.  :mellow: ah well.

 

But back to this article: I have to read it a few times before commenting further. Let me drink some coffee.....a few cups perhaps... :) 

 

She states "So my goal here isn’t to prove anything about wheat. Mostly, I want to see if I can find a confounder that’s creating a false association between wheat and heart disease in the China Study data.

 

So, she is taking on a huge task. I also notice it's only "part 1". 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So many variables my head is spinning.  The main point I'm getting from this is it's going to be really hard to nail down specific conclusions to prove/disprove associations.  The data from the China study may be inherently flawed as it is a questionnaire.  I think she may actually find many confounders, not just one. 

 

Thank for the link Abby.  I'll look forward to Part 2.

 

Colleen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Goodness, that is a meaty article. I am enjoying it but really don't know how to talk about this stuff much yet. I am in the "sponge" stage - soaking up as much info as i can!

 

IrishHeart - question away, if you wish! I'll still talk to you.  :lol:  I enjoy a good dialogue and some healthy skepticism. I have no personal attachment to this study at all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Goodness, that is a meaty article. I am enjoying it but really don't know how to talk about this stuff much yet. I am in the "sponge" stage - soaking up as much info as i can!

 

IrishHeart - question away, if you wish! I'll still talk to you.  :lol:  I enjoy a good dialogue and some healthy skepticism. I have no personal attachment to this study at all.

 

Oh no, Abby! :)

 

My comments were not directed at you at all. I was just speaking hypothetically and agreeing with what the author said in the article about people in general, who do not read the entire Pub Med article.. 

 

You have posted something for discussion.That's a good thing.

 

You did not come on and say "eating musk melon causes some celiacs to have villous atrophy"

and then post a link to some whacko website making dubious claims based on  well, nothing..

 

There's a huge difference. Hope I clarified my meaning.

 

Cheers!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ads by Google:


While I don't pay much attention to studies like this, it is a well known fact that carbs will raise blood sugar and elevated blood sugar, over time, can clog your arteries. In the US, doctors tell people to stay away from bacon and eggs, yet its the carbs that do way more harm to your heart.  My brother is a Type 1 diabetic and he was not very vigilant about his blood sugar levels and keeping them low.  At the age of 49, he had to have 2 stents placed in his arteries because he had a 95% blockage...a heart attack waiting to happen.

Consumption of red meat is down from 20-30 years ago yet carb intake has skyrocketed.  Wheat is a highly consumed carb and is in everything, as we know. I think there is merit to the idea that wheat can cause heart disease in some people.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

0

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      108,947
    • Total Posts
      943,631
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      67,293
    • Most Online
      3,093

    Newest Member
    CazoftheStarz
    Joined
  • Topics

  • Posts

    •   When I woke up from my Endoscopy and was told I definitely had celiac disease the first thing I asked my doctor was do I need to get all new kitchen stuff? He assured me that I did not, and as long as my pots and pans and everything else was washed after being used to cook gluten I would have no problems. Well, I'm 10 weeks into my gluten-free diet and still feeling crappy as ever.  I have not been eating out unless the restaurant is 100% gluten-free (I'm lucky there are several near me).  I am very careful that everything I use to cook my food is thoroughly cleaned at home, but is this really enough?  Did you guys need to replace most kitchenware in order really avoid being cross contaminated?   I'm curious to get some opinions before I spend a bunch of money on new/separate stuff.  Thanks!  
    • They have all given you good advice. Like Ennis_Tx said this is not medical advice. Just some observations. Ennis_Tx mentioned already a good B-complex. But people who have Perncious Anemia low B-12 have "Pens and Needles' feeling in their extremities. Mine was much more pronounced when sleeping. . . while sleeping my nerve ending would go to sleep. This would wake me from my sleep.  I would shake them awake/loose much like a leg that had fallen asleep while awake.  We have all felt that feeling before except the whole side of body's nerve ending would tingle/fall asleep enough to wake me from my sleep. Once taking a homocysteine tablet (B6,b12 and folic acid) tablet call FABB for the abbreviated ingredients under doctor's supervision this "pens and needles' went away. This also happened in my finger and toe tips while awake as if I had pinched a nerve in my back. These sensations are now in remission. Also if you think it is Rynaud's then try Niacin or Niacinamide.  It is a natural vasodialotor and the 'warm sensation" people take when using Niacin especially in a work out supplement is Niacin they add to enhance athletic performance for body builders.. . . because this opens capillaries approx. 10 % more allowing more air into the muscles thus improving their work out. This flushing goes away after a couple days of using Niacin.  The Niacinamide form does not flush the way the Niacin form does but provides the same benefit. Both Niacinamide and Magnesium each lower blood pressure approx. 10% each this way.  But if BP is a real problem for you  take the Homocysteine tablet mentioned above or just Folic Acid by itself. My BP is now normal after taking Folic Acid because it controls' how/what triggers constriction in our blood vessels thus effectively controlling BP. These are some times that I have used to improve my circulation. *** again this is not medical advice just things that have helped me with similar issues.  I hope this is helpful. 2 Tim 2:7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included. posterboy by the grace of God,
    • Thank you for your advices, Kareng and Ennis_TX. Hope you guys are still doing well with celiac. I will ask my doctor about the preparation for the Celiac screening and lymph node checking. By the way, do these test cost much? To Ennis_TX: Did you do any test or check for your lymph nodes, when you noticed them swelling. And did you have many of them? did you member their size? Were they hurt you. Sorry for asking to much. My doctor just told me do ultra sound. I dont know should I ask her to do another tests to make sure the reason of swelling lymph nodes
    • IF your still getting cramps look into supplementing with Magnesium, either Natural Vitality Calm or Doctors best in the glycinate powder. Depending on other symptoms and the way your body works depends on which form is best. Calm is best if you have hard stools, do not go daily with a BM you start it off small 1/4tsp and work it up to the full dose over a week or two. If you get loose stools cut back as you dose this to tolerance. Doctors best is easier on the stomach and will not cause D or loose stools like Calm but can cause you to really relax too much and cause very vivid dreams (this is a good sign that it is working) You will notice the cramps lessen with both of these. The cramps in combination with the numbness is a sign of magnesium deficiency which is caused by your damaged intestines normally and can be made worse by PPIs and a few other issues.
  • Upcoming Events