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Airborne gluten?


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lilo Enthusiast

 There are a lot of threads on this forum and other sites about this. I always try to be careful when i see gluten containing stuff around me,but sometimes i went to a bakery to buy my family a bread.The oven is not too near to where i pay . And i buy it in evening when they already finish baking.I dont think i will go to there again but do you think that i hurt my body by going there before? (Theres a smell of freshly baked bread there always but i didnt see flour dust or particles on air)

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kareng Grand Master
16 minutes ago, lilo said:

 There are a lot of threads on this forum and other sites about this. I always try to be careful when i see gluten containing stuff around me,but sometimes i went to a bakery to buy my family a bread.The oven is not too near to where i pay . And i buy it in evening when they already finish baking.I dont think i will go to there again but do you think that i hurt my body by going there before? (Theres a smell of freshly baked bread there always but i didnt see flour dust or particles on air)

There is probably flour in the air.  I work in a gluten-free bakery and you can wipe down the counter and thre next morning, there is a thin layer of flour that has floated down from the air.

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Ennis-TX Grand Master
2 hours ago, kareng said:

There is probably flour in the air.  I work in a gluten-free bakery and you can wipe down the counter and thre next morning, there is a thin layer of flour that has floated down from the air.

Ditto XD, same your always getting that dust off, I am scared of non gluten free baking areas due to this. HECK I work with nut based flours and I would think they would not fly far but I guess the sifter does cause "Poofs".....that "poof" from opening a bag of flour.....yeah imagine that with gluten.....scary thought.

Flour can stay airborne for hours, you inhale it, some goes down your throat mixed with mucus...you digest it....glutened. Some people can have a kind of immune response from directly inhaled flour. and then their is always that "fight or flight" we get from the smell. I mean you body knows that smell means your going to get sick and triggers a fight or flight response in many of us....like anxiety attack.

I got a antipollution mask that works wonderful check out respro.com I got the techno mask for the high volume air flow and ease of breathing.

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Yes, it’s a mine field when there’s an in store bakery. I usually cover my mouth and nose with a scarf as I pass by the bakery. One supermarket near me (in the UK) has put their gluten free isle right next to the in store bakery. It makes me wonder sometimes about who’s running these places. 

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lilo Enthusiast

By the way.. Sometimes a small loaf of bread is baked in kitchen.Can i enter to kitchen after a few hours later? I know you all mentioned that flour can float in air for hours but the amount of flour used is very little .. And i will have to cook my food in kitchen :blink:^_^

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Ennis-TX Grand Master
1 minute ago, lilo said:

By the way.. Sometimes a small loaf of bread is baked in kitchen.Can i enter to kitchen after a few hours later? I know you all mentioned that flour can float in air for hours but the amount of flour used is very little .. And i will have to cook my food in kitchen :blink:^_^

First off as a paranoid sensitive celiac I do not get why the flipping flack anyone with celiac would allow gluten flour in their own kitchen -_-

OK paranoia aside damage control. First try using freezer paper for fixing and prepping the gluten bread on to prevent CC in the kitchen. Use new freezer paper to prep your food later, Make sure different mixers, spoons, bread pans are used.  Personally I would do a sub with gluten free options. I do not even allow anyone to bring gluten foods in my house (I have joked they would be removed at gun point if they did).  As I sometimes cook in others kitchens I am giving that above advice about the freezer paper and separate cookware. Few hours later should be fine. make sure they are careful no telling where the flour could dust. Use a dust mask if you wish, food prep gloves and vigorous hand washing between food prep stations is always a good habit, perhaps leave the water running to prevent CC with touching the knob.

Unsure of your situation as in if at someone else house or your own but do not compromise your health to be nice. If it is your house you have the right to say no and opt for gluten free alternatives. I do this with my family for the holidays, if visiting someone else bring your own food prepped at your house in meal prep boxes to be reheated.

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3 minutes ago, Ennis_TX said:

First off as a paranoid sensitive celiac I do not get why the flipping flack anyone with celiac would allow gluten flour in their own kitchen -_-

OK paranoia aside damage control. First try using freezer paper for fixing and prepping the gluten bread on to prevent CC in the kitchen. Use new freezer paper to prep your food later, Make sure different mixers, spoons, bread pans are used.  Personally I would do a sub with gluten free options. I do not even allow anyone to bring gluten foods in my house (I have joked they would be removed at gun point if they did).  As I sometimes cook in others kitchens I am giving that above advice about the freezer paper and separate cookware. Few hours later should be fine. make sure they are careful no telling where the flour could dust. Use a dust mask if you wish, food prep gloves and vigorous hand washing between food prep stations is always a good habit, perhaps leave the water running to prevent CC with touching the knob.

Unsure of your situation as in if at someone else house or your own but do not compromise your health to be nice. If it is your house you have the right to say no and opt for gluten free alternatives. I do this with my family for the holidays, if visiting someone else bring your own food prepped at your house in meal prep boxes to be reheated.

 Thank you for your reply! I live with my parents , who eat gluten every single day , and i vigorously wash my hands, don't touch ANYWHERE  but my food when im cooking. I clean again  shared kitchen equipments such as glass cutting board , stainless stell pans,pots and things like that (no wood ,plastic or teflon of course). My main concern is : My mother bakes a sourdough bread once a week then cleans the kitchen.For example ,she prepared dough now and i will go to kitchen 10 hours later,for breakfast. I won't be home when she bakes but I will come back like 2-4 hours after baking.  Do you think its safe?

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16 minutes ago, lilo said:

 Thank you for your reply! I live with my parents , who eat gluten every single day , and i vigorously wash my hands, don't touch ANYWHERE  but my food when im cooking. I clean again  shared kitchen equipments such as glass cutting board , stainless stell pans,pots and things like that (no wood ,plastic or teflon of course). My main concern is : My mother bakes a sourdough bread once a week then cleans the kitchen.For example ,she prepared dough now and i will go to kitchen 10 hours later,for breakfast. I won't be home when she bakes but I will come back like 2-4 hours after baking.  Do you think its safe?

I think you are fine.  You are wiping off anything that was left out before using.  

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On 11/20/2017 at 10:28 AM, lilo said:

 Thank you for your reply! I live with my parents , who eat gluten every single day , and i vigorously wash my hands, don't touch ANYWHERE  but my food when im cooking. I clean again  shared kitchen equipments such as glass cutting board , stainless stell pans,pots and things like that (no wood ,plastic or teflon of course). My main concern is : My mother bakes a sourdough bread once a week then cleans the kitchen.For example ,she prepared dough now and i will go to kitchen 10 hours later,for breakfast. I won't be home when she bakes but I will come back like 2-4 hours after baking.  Do you think its safe?

If you are still worried you can also ask that the dry ingredients be mixed/poured outside (eg. on a deck, balcony etc.) and only be brought inside once combined with the wet ingredients. I believe someone else on the board once posted this as a suggestion, and I took it up to avoid roommate mutiny. Before I insisted on this, I would always get sick when roommates baked, even if I wasn't there at the time or hid in my room during. It might be however, that your current method is fine for you though - not a lot of studies in this area to prove anything either way.

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