Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com!
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Passing Celiac On To Children


jaimek

Recommended Posts

gfp Enthusiast
Hi, Jaimek, thanks for posting the info. I totally agree with the breastfeeding thing (though obviously it's not a guarantee)--but I do question his advice on starting gluten no later than 9 months. Other potential allergens like citrus and strawberries are held off until at least a year (and families with history of food allergies are told to wait even longer). Why start gluten at 9 months? Did he have a reason for that? (I'm not jumping down youyr throat, I'm trying to find out why he would start it at 9 months.)

I read the same study, its simply as they said the studied a whole load of kids and when they were introduced gluten in the diet and found a lower incidence at age 5 than those who were introduced it later.

However this is a very preliminary study, it doesn't say why it just shows the stats.

Now it might be (I'm speculating here) that mothers who breastfeed tend to introduce solids earlier and that there is a correlation with when they introduced solids containing gluten and indeed the reason why is due to the IgG being passed in mother's milk. It might equally be something else ...

For instance what if they did 4 groups instead of 2 ... breastfed with mother consuming gluten and non breastfed with mother not and did both of these with the 6-9 month introduction.... ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • Replies 53
  • Created
  • Last Reply
harrisonsmom Newbie

This is definitely a touchy topic I see! But since everyone else is, lemme put in my two cents! I have gotten different answers on all this! I've been reading two VERY recent books out now. One called "Celiac Disease: A Hidden Epidemic" By Dr Peter Green, a leading doc on celiac disease. And also "Gluten Free for Dummies' by Danna Korn I believe her name is, (sorry if I'm wrong, search the title, I'm beat and dont' feel like getting up to go look! Dont judge--you other mommies feel my pain! :)

Anyway, my pediatrician told me to wait til after one year to introduce gluten. She's pushed it back every appt so I'm guessing when I bring him in for his 9 month appt she'll push it back more! But that's fine with me bc there's really no need for him to eat gluten. I disagree however that u wait til 7-8 months to introduce solids. Just like everything else there are studies saying that waiting too long to introduce solids (and by solids I'm using jar baby food and rice cereal as my example, if u meant something else I apologize) actually makes it harder for baby tolearn to manipulate the spoon. Now this is all once again various studies and we can see that can be different one day to the next. I think the MOST important thing is to TRUST YOURSELF! Trust your own body for your choices! If gluten makes uf eel bad, dont eat it. If u can breast feed, do it. I tried for 5 months and my son fought me the entire way. I had to supplement from the beginning bc he lost too much weight. Everyone is different. Bfing may indeedh elp, it certainly can't hurt!

As for introducing, in my opinoin, u either have the capacity to get celiac disease or u don't. True, u can go years and years without getting it. So in theory, the longer u go without introducing it, the longer u go not getting celiac disease. (That point is brought up in Gluten Free for Dummies) If u dont eat it, u CANNOT get celiac disease. U MUST ingest gluten to activate the celiac disease, even if u have the gene. I know some ppl who are gettign genetic testing to avoid ever introducing gluten in their children since the test is simple and pretty accurate and it's much less of a pain than purposely introducing gluten and waiting to see if it affects the child. So there are LOTS of issues out there and LOTS of opinions, studies, stories. Everyone thinks there way is the best. Remember we need to help each other, not hurt. But I feel u need to trust yourself. If u wanna introduce gluten to your child, trust your instinct. U know your child and only YOU can make the decision, just be careful and keep track of their body and other changes!

Love this forum guys, Keep up the gluten-free work! :P

Amy

Sorry, Jaime, I didn't mean to make you feel bad, I apologize.

But really, it isn't even recommended to start a baby on solids before seven to eight months, why start with something that has been shown to cause a LOT of allergies, even if you don't consider celiac disease? Wheat must be one of the most allergenic foods in the world.

Unfortunately, many specialists aren't too knowledgable in their own fields. So, just because your doctor specializes in celiac disease doesn't necessarily mean he is right.

We weren't trying to attack you. But all of us have had terrible experiences with doctors, and as a result don't trust them a whole lot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
eKatherine Rookie
I disagree however that u wait til 7-8 months to introduce solids. Just like everything else there are studies saying that waiting too long to introduce solids (and by solids I'm using jar baby food and rice cereal as my example, if u meant something else I apologize) actually makes it harder for baby tolearn to manipulate the spoon. Now this is all once again various studies and we can see that can be different one day to the next.

Amy

Wait a minute. You say there are multiple studies that show that infants who are not introduced to solid foods before 7 months grow up to be adults who can't use spoons? Why don't I know any of these adults? And what about cultures who don't use spoons or pureed baby foods?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
aorona Rookie
all three of my girls with celiac were nursed for 16 months-------sure wish it would have protected them!!!

I agree, both my children were breastfed & it hurt them more than it helped them. They unfortunately were born with celiac & it went undiagnosed for 20 months & 4 years, respectively. Once my babies were on formula only they did well. I first gave them solids at 6 months, but both refused to eat solids until 12 months. Now I know why, the gluten hurt thier tummy's.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      121,073
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    rusky
    Newest Member
    rusky
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Nacina
      Well, that's a big question. When he was seeing the nutrition response testing dr. that changed each time we went in. He hasn't been seeing him regularly for theist ten months. When he had a horribly week in March I started him back on the 4 that were suggested to keep him on. Those are: Standard Process Chlorophyll Complex gluten-free, SP A-F Betafood gluten-free, SP Tuna Omega-3 Oil gluten-free, And Advanced Amino Formula. He also takes a one a day from a company called Forvia (multivitamin and mineral) and Probiotic . Recently he had to start Vitamin D as well as he was deficient.  
    • Fluka66
      Thank you again for your reply and comments which I have read carefully as I appreciate any input at this stage. I'm tending to listen to what my body wants me to do, having been in agony for many years any respite has been welcome and avoiding all wheat and lactose has thankfully brought this.  When in pain before I was seen by a number of gynacologists as I had 22 fibroids and had an operation 13 years ago to shrink them . However the pain remained and intensified to the point over the years where I began passing out. I was in and out of a&e during covid when waiting rooms where empty. My present diet is the only thing that's given me any hope for the future. As I say I had never heard of celiac disease before starting so I guess had this not come up in a conversation I would just have carried on. It was the swollen lymph node that sent me to a boots pharmacist who immediately sent me to a&e where a Dr asked questions prescribed antibiotics and then back to my GP. I'm now waiting for my hospital appointment . Hope this answers your question. I found out more about the disease because I googled something I wouldn't normally do, it did shed light on the disease but I also read some things that this disease can do. On good days I actually hope I haven't got this but on further investigation my mother's side of the family all Celtic have had various problems 're stomach pain my poor grandmother cried in pain as did her sister whilst two of her brother's survived WW2 but died from ulcers put down to stress of fighting.  Wishing you well with your recovery.  Many thanks  
    • knitty kitty
      Welcome to the forum, @Nacina, What supplements is your son taking?
    • knitty kitty
      @BluegrassCeliac, I'm agreeing.  It's a good thing taking magnesium. And B vitamins. Magnesium and Thiamine work together.  If you supplement the B vitamins which include Thiamine, but don't have sufficient magnesium, Thiamine won't work well.  If you take Magnesium, but not Thiamine, magnesium won't work as well by itself. Hydrochlorothiazide HCTZ is a sulfonamide drug, a sulfa drug.  So are proton pump inhibitors PPIs, and SSRIs. High dose Thiamine is used to resolve cytokine storms.  High dose Thiamine was used in patients having cytokine storms in Covid infections.  Magnesium supplementation also improves cytokine storms, and was also used during Covid. How's your Vitamin D? References: Thiamine and magnesium deficiencies: keys to disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25542071/ Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8533683/ The Effect of a High-Dose Vitamin B Multivitamin Supplement on the Relationship between Brain Metabolism and Blood Biomarkers of Oxidative Stress: A Randomized Control Trial https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6316433/ High‐dose Vitamin B6 supplementation reduces anxiety and strengthens visual surround suppression https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9787829/ Repurposing Treatment of Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome for Th-17 Cell Immune Storm Syndrome and Neurological Symptoms in COVID-19: Thiamine Efficacy and Safety, In-Vitro Evidence and Pharmacokinetic Profile https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33737877/ Higher Intake of Dietary Magnesium Is Inversely Associated With COVID-19 Severity and Symptoms in Hospitalized Patients: A Cross-Sectional Study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9132593/ Magnesium and Vitamin D Deficiency as a Potential Cause of Immune Dysfunction, Cytokine Storm and Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation in covid-19 patients https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7861592/ Sulfonamide Hypersensitivity https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31495421/
    • BluegrassCeliac
      Hi,   Not saying Thiamine (B1) couldn't be an issue as well, but Mg was definitely the cause of my problems. It's the only thing that worked. I supplemented with B vitamins, but that didn't change anything, in fact they made me sick. Mg stopped all my muscle pain (HCTZ) within a few months and fixed all the intestinal problems HCTZ caused as well. Mom has an allergy to some sulfa drugs (IgG Celiac too), but I don't think I've ever taken them. Mg boosted my energy as well. It solved a lot of problems. I take 1000mg MgO a day with no problems. I boost absorption with Vitamin D. Some people can't take MgO,  like mom, she takes Mg Glycinate. It's one of those things that someone has try and find the right form for themselves. Everyone's different. Mg deficiency can cause anxiety and is a treatment for it. A pharmacist gave me a list of drugs years ago that cause Mg deficiency: PPIs, H2 bockers, HCTZ, some beta blockers (metoprolol which I've taken -- horrible side effects), some anti-anxiety meds too were on it. I posted because I saw he was an IgG celiac. He's the first one I've seen in 20 years, other than my family. We're rare. All the celiacs I've met are IgA. Finding healthcare is a nightmare. Just trying to help. B  
×
×
  • Create New...