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      Frequently Asked Questions About Celiac Disease   09/30/2015

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Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum, Carragenan
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any of those ingredients give me a headache. as i understand they have msg in them which i'm very sensitive to. i would love to know if there is a bread i can buy that does not have them.

thank you.

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Ok, I've been searching for 10 or 15 minutes trying to find any information regarding this, but I can't find any. SO, can you post a link or source info regarding there being MSG in the above products?

As an aside- I did find one *remotely* associated blurb saying that xanthan could have free glutamates because it is a corn product (though it is so highly processed that it tests out to be corn-free.)

thanks! :)

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I hope not! And here I thought they were safe. jeeez!

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Ok, I've been searching for 10 or 15 minutes trying to find any information regarding this, but I can't find any. SO, can you post a link or source info regarding there being MSG in the above products?

As an aside- I did find one *remotely* associated blurb saying that xanthan could have free glutamates because it is a corn product (though it is so highly processed that it tests out to be corn-free.)

thanks! :)

here is the link to hidden names for msg: http://www.msgmyth.com/hidename.htm'>http://www.msgmyth.com/hidename.htm

this is their main website: http://www.msgmyth.com/

among them it lists gums. i really believe that they do have msg in them because it never fails that i will get a two day headache and depending on the amount i ingest i can get a full blown migraine headache with D and just feeling like curling up and dying. i wish it wasn't the case because i really have some awesome bread that i would love to eat. thank you for replying.

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You probably need to start baking your own bread to avoid all those. i can't handle MSG either and carragenan gives me headaches but I have no trouble with the gums.

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here is the link to hidden names for msg: http://www.msgmyth.com/hidename.htm'>http://www.msgmyth.com/hidename.htm

this is their main website: http://www.msgmyth.com/

among them it lists gums. i really believe that they do have msg in them because it never fails that i will get a two day headache and depending on the amount i ingest i can get a full blown migraine headache with D and just feeling like curling up and dying. i wish it wasn't the case because i really have some awesome bread that i would love to eat. thank you for replying.

I looked at the list and did not find Xanthan gum on it. Are you new to the diet? If you are have you changed to a new toaster and are you avoiding sharing condiments and stuff like nut butters, jellys etc with gluten eaters. The reaction you are describing would be the same as I would get with gluten cross contamination. May not be the case for you but thought it should be mentioned.

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I looked at the list and did not find Xanthan gum on it. Are you new to the diet? If you are have you changed to a new toaster and are you avoiding sharing condiments and stuff like nut butters, jellys etc with gluten eaters. The reaction you are describing would be the same as I would get with gluten cross contamination. May not be the case for you but thought it should be mentioned.

i've read it as all gums, besides the ones in parantheses. and xanthan gum will give me the same headache as all the others :(

not new to the diet. been gluten free now since june 2010. so almost a year. before that i was gluten free for about 5 month but then did a 2 week gluten challenge. our whole household is gluten free (just my husband and me). i don't eat out because of the gluten and msg. gluten does not give me this reaction. no headache at all, just joint pain and constipation.

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You probably need to start baking your own bread to avoid all those. i can't handle MSG either and carragenan gives me headaches but I have no trouble with the gums.

i'm not much of a baker or cook. my oven is being used as storage :blink:

even then, i think every recipe has gum included. i wonder what would happen if you just leave it out?

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I think they help the bread to rise. It would be a denser loaf, but doable.

I just recently learned of the carageenan connection myself. It makes me sick. I always used cream in my coffee and had headaches. Less headaches gluten free, but MSG and carageenan do give that headache back to me.

Interesting to see it does that to others too.

Thanks for that info.

I just gave up bread and went Paleo instead of baking my own.

OK, so I'm Paleo with Snickers now and then. But getting there.

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I actually prefer denser bread :) that's what i grew up with in germany.

i'm more afraid of the msg than the gluten because of the painful consequents. i'm not much of a meat eater.

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