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  1. I am new to gluten free and bodybuilding, and trying to figure some things out. I diagnosed myself celiac in Sep. 2010 and quit gluten (no official medical diagnosis), and I've always been a little scrawny. I'm 25 years old, 6'3", and averaged 170 lbs. for years, but little muscle mass apparent. So now that I actually CAN, I want to start gaining some muscle mass (and burning the small amount of flab hanging around). I've figured out the gluten free diet pretty well, and got a good workout plan. I have a few questions if anyone could help.

    I just got glutened figuring out I can't eat gluten free oats, and I just started loading creatine. Should I keep on with the creatine even if I have to miss a few workouts (because of the reaction)?

    During a gluten reaction, does it do any good to keep working out? (Assuming I'm capable.) I'm just thinking of absorption problems.

    I've read you should eat some extra calories when you work out, but I can't figure out if you're supposed to eat extra calories on your off days. Any suggestions for off day consumption?

    All the workout plans I've seen say to do them three days a week. Is it okay to sandwich different workouts on the in between days? What do you do on the off days to keep from sitting around?


    I dont bother with creatine. Tried it but never got much in way of results. The ethyl ester gave me stomach problems so I would stick with monohydrate.

    Training when glutened. I would either wait until I was OK or just do a short light session.

    It doesnt matter if you train alternate days or consecutive days so long as you get enough recovery. If training consecutive days then work different muscle goups each day. I prefer a rest day, or 2 or 3, between sessions but sometimes will do legs one day and then upper body work the next day. I have plenty of things to keep me busy during rest days.

    Eat enough calories daily, rest days or training days, to enable you to gain gain weight. If you gain fat then cut down your calories. If you lose weight then up your daily intake. Eat a balanced diet with enough proteins and vegetables and fruit.

    I would be interested to see your good workout plan, especially as you are not using weights.

  2. I've been purchasing the 5 pound tubs of MGN Whey Isolate from here: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/store/pure-whey-protein-isolate-bundle.html

    I like the fact that MGN's web site says that all of their products are gluten free. I was previously using Optimum Nutrition's 100% Gold Whey Standard. I think the ON tasted about the same or maybe a little better, and it mixed better. But the MGN is all whey isolate instead of a blend of various grades of whey, it is gluten free, and it is cheaper.

    Avoid the peanut butter flavor. It doesn't mix well or taste good (IMHO). The chocolate is very good. The cake batter is very good, too. I just recently got the cinnamon bun flavor which is well reviewed in the google searching that I did, but I haven't tried that one yet.

    Thanks for that. I will give it a try.

  3. OK, it's been a while since I posted here - hi guys!

    I've been using Biochem Sports whey protein for a very long time and I just started to make a possible connection between the Stevia that they use as a sweetener and my frequent headaches.

    I'm looking for a whey protein powder that is confirmed gluten free by the manufacturer and does not use Stevia or artificial sweeteners (aspartame, sucralose, etc.)

    Any ideas? I'm having a hard time finding anything that meets my criteria :(

    I think I will probably try some Muscle Gauge Nutrition whey protein isolate . It is listed as gluten free and lactose free by the manufacturer. Looks OK in the advertisements but then they always do.


    Has anybody tried this brand ? Any feedback ?

  4. Stear clear of proteins that contain glutamine peptides as in most cases they are derived from wheat. Your top quality proteins such as isolates still have peptides in them and are therefore not gluten free. Be cautious with weight gainers also. I'm researching protein powders to be sure they are safe enough for people with Celiac Disease. ;)

    Yes I think that any supplements with glutamine peptide, or peptide bonded glutamine, should be avoided. I also agree with the caution with weight gainers as most of these seem to contain gluten.

    I have had limited success in getting replies from manufacturers. The manufactuer with the protein supposedly containing glutamine peptide and claiming it to be gluen free has replied to state that their distributor had made an error in their advertising and that there was no glutamine peptide in the powder and it was gluten free.

    You say you are researching protein powders. What sort of research?? Do you mean your own investigations or do you mean scientific research??

  5. Glutamine is one of the amino acids (building blocks of proteins- see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine) and isn't actually related to gluten, even though they sound similar.

    "peptide bonded" is also a bit of a confusing phrase. A "peptide bond" is the way 2 amino acids stick together. So peptide bonded glutamine just means "we added extra glutamine, and it's attached the way it usually is".

    I never knew my college chemistry classes would be so useful.


    I dont have a problem with glutamine, just the peptide bonded glutamine.

    Here are some quotes from a few articles:-

    "Glutamine Peptide derives from wheat gluten and therefore appears brownish in color and may have an unpleasant taste"

    "glutamine peptide (wheat gluten hydrolysate) in "

    "Peptide Bonded Glutamine 800 mg. (as hydrolized wheat gluten)"

    "Peptide Bonded Glutamine (as hydrolized wheat gluten)"

    "Glutamine Peptide by definition is L-Glutamine, peptide bonded (a chemical bond between two amino acids) to another amino acid or several other amino acids in a chain (protein). Within the supplement industry Glutamine Peptide means . . . . wheat protein. What

  6. Whey protein is gluten free, but I have notice several manufacturers now include peptide bonded glutamine as an extra ingredient in their supplements which is apparently derived from hydrolysed wheat gluten.

    Most manufacturers with the added peptide bonded glutamine do now not claim the whey protein as gluten free but I have noticed at least one who does.

    I have emailed the manufacturers and await responses.

    But does anybody out there know if this peptide bonded glutamine does contain gluten or has it been treated such that the gluten content is removed ?

    This stuff is appearing in lots of protein supplements that would previously have been gluten free.

    Any thoughts??

  7. I have used creatine monohydrate without any problems. I take about an hour before food and if possible with some warm water as this helps it dissolve. I take one teaspoonful on non training days and 2 on training days.

    I tried creatine ethyl ester in powder form for a few weeks but it gave me stomach problems as if I had been glutened. I had a break for a few weeks then tried again and again had problems so I threw the tub away and now use the creatine monohydrate.

    It may have been that particular brand or maybe not a pure batch but it definitely did not agree with me.

  8. Go see your Doctor and discuss with them. If you have been diagnosed then you are entitled to the prescriptions. The prepayment certificate is definitely worth it.

    I regularly get bread, crackers, and pasta on prescription. You can also get flour and some biscuits. Your doctor should have a list of prescribable items.

    If I had to buy the same amounts in the shops it would cost way more than the prepayment card.

    If you have any problems then try contacting coeliac.co.uk

  9. Whey protein is dairy based.

    Whey protein does not contain gluten. However whey protein products often have other ingredients added so you do need to check with the manuacturer.

    I use Reflex Nutrtion instant whey protein which they have confirmed is gluten free.

    Whey protein does contain small amounts of lactose.

  10. Heather,  I totally agree with you, but he is in complet edenial that he might need the diet.  It took almost a year to convince him that he has the genes!  He has always been skinny, he was like a stick when he was a child.  He has been complaining because he has been on this 3500 calorie diet plan (45% carbs/ 35% protein/20% healthy fats) for almost 10 weeks and he has stayed at 150 lbs the whole time.  He has converted some fat into muscle, but he was hopping to really bulk  up for this contest he is doing. 

    He has been lactose intolerant most of his life, in fact  all of his family complains of lactose intolerance and they buy Pepto Bismol by the case! But it is like talking to a wall when it comes to getting any of them tested.  I figure they will have to be half dead before they will listen to me.  Hopefully it won't have to come to that. 

    God bless,



    When I was finally diagnosed, after years of problems, my bodyweight was down to about 165 lbs. After 2 to 3 months on a strict gluten free diet my symptoms started to disappear and I could train and gain weight. I am now a lean 240 lbs.

    If I had not been tested and diagnosed I would still be a sick skinny guy.

    Tell your husband to stop being a coward and get tested now!.

    It will be the best help he can get for his bodybuilding.

    If he is negative then he has to sort his training and diet out.

    If he is positive he has to sort his training and diet out but could gain massively from it.

    Good luck.

  11. You should not have too much of a problem in the UK.

    Gluten free breads, pasta, crackers etc is available in health food shops, and supermarkets such as Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury. Also lots of foods in these supermarkets are identified on the labelling as gluten free.

    If eating out many places will offer gluten free choices but you need to ask.

    There are some hotels, guest houses which specialise in gluten-free customers. Contact Coeliac UK and they should be able to help.


  12. Coeliac - No sports - No way !!

    I was diagnosed 10 years ago. It took about 2-3 months on a strict gluten free diet before I started to feel OK. Since then I have not stopped. I am weight training 2 to 5 times per week. Walking 45mins every day. Training & competing in track & field during the summer.

    I am very strict on the diet. If I get any symptoms I usually know why. But this is a rare occurrance now. The main problem is eating out which I avoid as much as possible.

    I do agree you have to listen to your body and sometimes take it easy but there is no reason for stopping sport and exercise.

  13. You dont have to take weight gain supplements to gain weight.

    You just need to balance your diet, get plenty of calories and get enough protein.

    I emailed several supplement manufacturers. Some replied some did not.

    I had some which were prepared to say that their protein powders were gluten free. Most of them would not commit themselves.

    I presently use Reflex Instant Whey and their Progen bars. They have stated that these are gluten free. (Note Progen powder is NOT gluten free)

    I dont know if they are available in USA.

    LA Whey also said that their LA Whey and Bio Activator protein is gluten free, and I think you can get that in the states.

    As regards gaining mass I think that so long as you are strictly gluten free then there is no problem. Its just training and diet, the same as everyone else.