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Thiamine and Autoimmune Diseases


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Thiamine and Autoimmune Diseases

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Human Leukocyte Antigens are coded for in our DNA.  They act like street signs on cells so the body knows that they are "Self".   Tissue typing in organ transplantation looks for donors with "Self" street signs similar to the recipient's in order to prevent rejection of the transplanted organ.  

The HLA DQ genes code for immune cells.  Some immune cells are encoded to recognize certain protein strings when that protein string attaches to the receptor on its cell membrane.  Originally, these protein strings were found in the cell walls of harmful viruses and bacteria.  

I like to think of these immune cells as patrolling police with orders to "be on the lookout for armed and dangerous suspects matching your cell membrane receptor description".  

However, segments of these dangerous protein strings are also found in the carbohydrate storage protein Gluten.  During digestion, Gluten segments bind with Tissue Transglutaminase, an enzyme that builds and repairs structural components of our "Self" cell membranes in our bodies.  

This Gluten-Transglutenaminase globule fits into the receptors on the patrolling police immune cells and sets off an alarm.  Mother immune cells begin producing antibodies (anti-tissue Transglutaminase antibodies ie, tTg antibodies) against the Transglutaminase-Gluten globule.  

Unfortunately, we have tissue Transglutaminase in the structure of all our cell membranes.  The antibodies attack healthy cells in our digestive tract, damaging them, causing them to signal to nearby cells "I'm sick, get away from me so you don't catch it!".  Spaces appear between cells.  The tight junction between cells is lost.  Gastrointestinal permeability is compromised.  This allows for other Transglutaminase-gluten globules to leave the intestinal tract, enter the blood stream, and travel to other organs and cause problems there. 

All the while, more police immune cells are alerted along the way with more mother cells producing more antibodies.  Sort of ends up looking like a "Smokey and the Bandit" movie in my mind, but with more than one "Bandit" driving around.  

So, people with a genetic predisposition (they have HLA DQ genes known to code for Celiac Disease) can go for years without developing Celiac Disease.  There needs to be a trigger that turns the genes on.  Triggers can be physical stressors like having an infection (like the flu or the common cold), or an injury, or an emotional stressor (like losing a loved one or abuse).  

There's some scientific proof that Thiamine insufficiency triggers autoimmune diseases.  During times of illness and emotional stress, the body requires additional Thiamine to provide the energy for the increased metabolic demand that comes with physical and emotional trauma or stresses.  Athletes have higher metabolic demands.   People who work outside in sunshine have higher metabolic demands, too.  This is because light (sunlight or indoor lighting) breaks thiamine down, denatures it, so that it cannot be used.  People who drink alcohol need more thiamine because alcohol will cleave thiamine in half making it useless.  People who eat a diet high in carbohydrates have a higher metabolic demand for thiamine and the other B vitamins needed to turn food into energy.  

Mitochondria are involved in producing energy, ATP, from Thiamine Vitamin B 1.  When there is a thiamine deficiency inside a cell, the mitochondria can no longer make energy ATP.  This is relayed to the DNA.  On the DNA, a switch is thrown to signal there's no thiamine, and another switch is turned on.  This is the switch that turns on the DQ autoimmune genes coded for in that DNA.  Whatever autoimmune genes are on your DNA start turning on. 

Thiamine Vitamin B 1 is needed to turn food into energy for the body along with the seven other B vitamins and minerals. Thiamine and magnesium make life sustaining enzymes.  Thiamine does stuff by itself, too, like regulate the immune response, and prevent mast cells from degranulating histamine. Thiamine influences which bacteria grow in our microbiome.  Thiamine deficiency allows Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO).  Immune responses and inflammatory cytokines are higher in thiamine deficiency.  

Thiamine cannot be stored long (18 days).  Thiamine insufficiency or deficiency can occur within three days if stores are depleted due to high metabolic demand and depleted stored thiamine.   

The majority of people with Diabetes have been shown to be deficient in Thiamine.  People with obesity who plan gastric bypass surgery have been found to have insufficient thiamine.  People Hashimoto's (autoimmune thyroid problems) have been found to improve with thiamine supplementation.  People with autoimmune arthritis have been shown to improve with thiamine supplementation.  People with MS have been shown to improve with thiamine supplementation.   

Blood tests are not reliable measures of thiamine level.  The brain controls the amount of thiamine in the blood stream.  The brain will order tissues to release their stored thiamine into the blood stream in order to keep a constant supply going to the brain, heart, and lungs.  So, there can be organs with depleted thiamine stores, while blood levels stay constant.  This results in a localized deficiency within the organ or tissue.  

The best way to tell if there's a deficiency is to take thiamine hydrochloride for several weeks and look for health improvements.  Higher amounts of thiamine are needed to correct thiamine insufficiency or deficiency.  This helps replenish thiamine stores inside cells and tissues as well as meet increased metabolic demands.  

Processed foods containing wheat are required to have vitamins added to them to replace the ones lost with the removal of the germ and bran.  Food manufacturers use Thiamine Mononitrate, a cheap, shelf-stable form of thiamine that is not easily absorbed nor utilized by the body.  

A diet high in ultra processed foods, high in sugar and simple carbohydrates requires additional thiamine to turn the carbs into energy for the body.  Excess carbohydrates and low thiamine encourages SIBO.  For every 1000 kcal of carbohydrates the body needs an additional 500 mg of Thiamine.  The RDA is based on the minimum amount required to prevent disease.  This was set in the 1940's, when people ate very differently.  

Early symptoms of thiamine insufficiency include depression, anxiety, impulsivity, and changes in mood and cognitive function, digestive problems, nausea, abdominal pain, diarrhea, constipation, fatigue, muscle cramps, high blood pressure, tachycardia, blurry vision, insomnia or other sleep disturbances.  All so easily overlooked or attributed to daily stresses.  

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Scott A Clark

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 I started having trimers and went to the ER they said your fine I was also having stomach pains lots of gas and blotting so they gave me some antacid and sent me home. I did not make it home that night as they were checking me out I passed out. So I woke up to lots of people getting me off the floor. They kept me for 3 days trying to find out what was wrong. They finely decided there was nothing wrong with me and sent me home. Less than a week later I was passing out all the time and the trimers was so bad that I could not do much at all. Light hurt so bad that it felt like it was burning a hole through the back of my head. I was back in a different hospital. They were doing all kinds of test but not finding anything by this time I was no longer able to do much and this time this doc told me there was nothing wrong I was just faking it to get attention so once again I was sent home without any treatment of any kind. By this time my mind was no longer able to function right I would go into hours of convulsions and each time I could feel part of me was slipping away. I lost a lot of memories during this time. I no longer could do anything but shake I could not walk could not even watch TV because my optic nerves was so sensitive to light that it hurt to even look at a screen. All I could do is lay in a dark room waiting to die. It was very hard to even talk by this time. My wife Kim just started firing every doctor that said there is nothing wrong or that its just some unknown neurological disorder. Its scary just haw many people die from unknown neurological disorders. It was two ladies that finely figured it out one was a naturopathic doctor and the other was a GP doctor that my wife Kim took me to. I remember they both would talk to each other on the phone they said I was there medical puzzle and they both saw that there was something wrong and never gave up. Then I get a call from the GP on a Saturday she said we found it! I need you to go to the hospital right now. She said when they tested my B1 levels it was so low there test could not even detect any at all. By this time I was in and out of hospitals and refused to go I was still recovering from an infected IV from the last time and If I was going to die I wanted to die at home. So Kim talked to the doc for a while and went out and got some B1 vitamins that seemed to help my stomach pains, but I was still shaking in my dark room. Then Monday came, and I went into the docs office, and she gave be a B1 shot buy this time my hart was racing all the time I could hardly see anything and I lost a lot of my memories but after the first shot my hart slowed down I was still shaking, but I could tell something was happening. It took a year for me to recover, and I lost some abilities. I used to be able to write code or make a web page writing in html or doing a spreadsheet was easy I can not do that now. I have a different personality now I think It's because I lost so many childhood memories most was not good ones anyway. I have 4 caped teeth from braking them during my uncontrolled convulsions. On a good note after around 6 months of shots I could watch TV and even though I saw Star Trek I got to watch it again for the first time along with Star Wars and I liked them just as much I think. I still can not write code and never recovered some memories, but I am making good new ones now!  I do test my vitamins each year now I was also low on B12 and Methofolate and vitamin D3. When I was told I had celiac no one ever told me that I would need to watch my vitamin levels or even tell me to take vitamins, but now I know that if I want to not die of an unknown neurological disorder I need to take vitamins because celiac and vitamin deficiency go hand in hand. It's something that should have been told to me by the first doctor that told me all I needed to do was not eat gluten. No one said test your vitamin levels and take supplements to fix any that are off. If you are seeing a doc that refuses to test and tells you they do not believe in vitamins! Firing them is the best thing you can do for your health because they will let you die of what they call an unknown neurological disorder before they will ever look at your vitamin levels. I do not understand why some doctors think this way. If you have celiac test your vitamin levels if your doc will not do it find a new one. I ask before I even go to a new doc. I call them and ask will you test and if they say it's not needed I will not waste my time and money on them there are good ones out there willing to do what it tales to get you healthy.

Scott A Clark

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I have used this vitamin test a few times if you can not get your doc to do it just do it on your own...

https://www.5strands.com/collections/nutritional-imbalance-testing-for-adults-kids/products/nutrition-test

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