Jump to content

  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Fecal Siga And Anti-Gliadin Siga

bekkaz

Recommended Posts

bekkaz Apprentice
bekkaz
Posted

I posted this quite some time ago and got zero responses. I am going to try again today in hopes someone can share any info. I have recently went to a functional medicine Dr. who is also a certified clinical nutritionist, due to having several health issues. I have had chronic female issues, PH Levels off, Bacterial Vaginosis, Yeast, Years of Constipation, Little cysts popping up here and there, sinus infections, anxiety, depression, fatigue, irritability, bloating, bladder pain (thinking about texting me for IC). Anyway after jumping from quack quack Dr. to quack quack Dr. and not giving up...I found an article that pointed me to a site for a Dr. in CA. This Dr. co-wrote the book "The Gluten Effect", I called this Dr. I live in WI. She said she felt she could help me but I need to come to CA, which I couldn't do. So, I found a Dr. like herself in my area. My first appt. was at the beginning of Aug. they decided to run a complete GI stool sample profile on me (sent to a lab, metametrix) that goes right down to the DNA. I got my results back this past Friday. It showed a substantial fungal overgrowth, a low level of PH (meaning to much acid in my system) I am not breaking down fats. On this GI panel is a text for your reaction to fecal sIgA and Anti-gliadin sIgA which I came back in the 65-70% positive range for. Has anyone used this type of test to determine gluten intolerance? I meet with the Dr. to discuss results this Wed. I know they will pull me off of gluten, among several other things for at least 6 weeks. My question I am wondering is am I intolerant and will I be most likely pulled off forever, or just while I heal? It's been a while since I read the "gluten effect" book but if I recalled from that book, I would be considered intolerant forever?!?

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Skylark Collaborator
Skylark
Posted

All you need to do to find out about gluten sensitivity is to try the diet strictly for 3-4 months. See how many of your problems resolve. Then reintroduce gluten and see if you react. If you do react, you are gluten-sensitive and need to stick to the diet.

That fecal sIgA is the same test as Enterolab. The only peer-reviewed study I've seen demonstrated that fecal anti-gliadin sIgA comes and goes in people who are healthy and not reacting to gluten. It seems to be part of a normal immune system. Enterolab's data suggests that long-term GI improvement is better predicted by going onto a gluten-free diet rather than by test results. This is why you try the diet, rather than worrying about testing for gluten intolerance.

Nobody around here has seen gluten intolerance resolve with time. Whether we're gluten intolerant or celiac, we all get pretty sick when we try to eat gluten again.

bekkaz Apprentice
bekkaz
Posted
  • Author

All you need to do to find out about gluten sensitivity is to try the diet strictly for 3-4 months. See how many of your problems resolve. Then reintroduce gluten and see if you react. If you do react, you are gluten-sensitive and need to stick to the diet.

That fecal sIgA is the same test as Enterolab. The only peer-reviewed study I've seen demonstrated that fecal anti-gliadin sIgA comes and goes in people who are healthy and not reacting to gluten. It seems to be part of a normal immune system. Enterolab's data suggests that long-term GI improvement is better predicted by going onto a gluten-free diet rather than by test results. This is why you try the diet, rather than worrying about testing for gluten intolerance.

Nobody around here has seen gluten intolerance resolve with time. Whether we're gluten intolerant or celiac, we all get pretty sick when we try to eat gluten again.

Okay just so I am understanding your reply. Just because I came back at a 65-70% H for the gluten sensitivity on this test doesn't really mean anything because that can be that way if your have a problem with gluten or not is that correct? As in a normal person without a gluten sensitivity can still test high in this cateory? Here were my exact results of the test, in the area's that came back with highs or lows.

+2 yeast/fungi overgrowth,

PH is low resulting at 5.9

Triglycerides are high at 119.

Not specifically marked as High but ranked very high are also Clostrldia.

My Fecal sIgA was 108 and my Anti-gliadin sIgA was 6.2.

Skylark Collaborator
Skylark
Posted

What is the "normal" range on those tests, especially the fecal sIgA?

Yes, what I'm saying is fecal anti-gliadin sIgA is a poor predictor of gluten intolerance. Trying the diet is MUCH better.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. trents
      - trents replied to ThomasA55's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      Being as how you are largely asymptomatic, I would certainly advise undertaking a gluten challenge in order to get formal testing for celiac disease. We have many forum participants who become violently ill when they undertake a gluten challenge and they therefore can't carry through with it. That doesn't seem to be the case with you. The reason I think it...
    2. ThomasA55
      - ThomasA55 replied to ThomasA55's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

    3. trents
      - trents replied to ThomasA55's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ThomasA55! Before I give my opinion on your question about whether or not you should undergo a gluten challenge, I would like to know how you react when you get a good dose of gluten? Are you largely asymptomatic or do you experience significant illness such as nausea and diarrhea? You mentioned intermittent joint...
    4. Joseph01
      - Joseph01 replied to bethmon's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      14

      We Keep Getting Glutened With Vegetable Oil

      This is way past due for your post. I have Celiac and have been recovering for more than a year. Doing well. Used Essential oil to day to fry some chicken. Read the label all good. Then ate some chicken. Here comes the gluten reaction. I haven't had a gluten reaction since year. I am angry. I have been so careful with this crap and don't wan't any...
    5. ThomasA55
      - ThomasA55 posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      Hey everyone. I'm a young adult who had very high iron in 2024. 64% saturation 160 ferritin. In 2025 I had far lower iron. 26% saturation and 130 ferritin. I know this is still in range but it seems to be a large drop. That combined with the fact that I developed some intermittent joint pain between the two years makes me wonder if I could be celiac. My dietary...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,086
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442
    Joseph01
    Newest Member
    Joseph01
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      By trents · Posted

      Being as how you are largely asymptomatic, I would certainly advise undertaking a gluten challenge in order to get formal testing for celiac disease. We have many forum participants who become violently ill when they undertake a gluten challenge and they therefore can't carry through with it. That doesn't seem to be the case with you. The reason I think it is important for you to get tested is that many or most people who don't have a formal diagnosis find it difficult to be consistent with the gluten-free diet. They find ways to rationalize that their symptoms are due to something other than celiac disease . . . especially when it becomes socially limiting.  The other factor here is by being inconsistent with the gluten free diet, assuming you do have celiac disease, you are likely causing slow, incremental damage to your gut, even though you are largely asymptomatic. It can take years for that damage to get to the point where it results in spinoff health problems. Concerning genetic testing, it can't be used for diagnosis, at least not definitively. Somewhere between 30 and 40% of the general population will have one or both of the two genes known to be associated with the development of active celiac disease. Yet, only about 1% of the general population will develop active celiac disease. But the genetic testing can be used as a rule out for celiac disease if you don't have either gene. But even so, that doesn't eliminate the possibility of having NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • ThomasA55
      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      By ThomasA55 · Posted

    • trents
      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ThomasA55! Before I give my opinion on your question about whether or not you should undergo a gluten challenge, I would like to know how you react when you get a good dose of gluten? Are you largely asymptomatic or do you experience significant illness such as nausea and diarrhea? You mentioned intermittent joint pain before you began experimenting with a low gluten diet. Anything else?
    • Joseph01
      We Keep Getting Glutened With Vegetable Oil

      By Joseph01 · Posted

      This is way past due for your post.  I have Celiac and have been recovering for more than a year.  Doing well.  Used Essential oil to day to fry some chicken.  Read the label all good.  Then ate some chicken.  Here comes the gluten reaction.  I haven't had a gluten reaction since year.  I am angry.   I have been so careful with this crap and don't wan't any set backs!!!!! Good luck to you with your post.   Celiac is HELL!
    • ThomasA55
      Iron loss and potential celiac.

      By ThomasA55 · Posted

      Hey everyone. I'm a young adult who had very high iron in 2024. 64% saturation 160 ferritin. In 2025 I had far lower iron. 26% saturation and 130 ferritin. I know this is still in range but it seems to be a large drop. That combined with the fact that I developed some intermittent joint pain between the two years makes me wonder if I could be celiac. My dietary intake of iron was pretty steady (mostly in the form of red meat). I did carnivore (therby eliminating gluten) for a bit after the second test and felt improvements in my joints and digestion. I still consume gluten occasionally socially, for religious reasons, and through cross contamination/food sharing. For these reasons, I would need to know if I had it, because although my lifestyle is low gluten its not at the strict level it should be if it turned out I was celiac. I will get a gene test first and hope I don't have DQ2.5,DQ2.2, or DQ8, but if I had any combination of those do you guys think I need proper screening through a gluten challenge / blood test? Other context. From 2024-2025, my b12 stayed about the same in the mid 600s folate went up slightly, but I heard it takes longer for celiac to affect the absorption of these. ANA negative, CRP low, ESR low.  I don't know how much noise exists around the saturation and ferritin, but it caught my eye and Celiac seemed like a possibility. I'm under no illusion that it is probable that I have celiac, only that it may be worth screening given my overall profile.   
×
×
  • Create New...