Avoid All Irritation Or The Intestines?

[Mabiac]

Does all irritation and inflammation of the small intestines destroy the villi for celiacs, or is it only gluten.

I mean....

Say I eat some spicey foods that disagree with my small intestines and irritate it.....will more villi be destroyed?

Will it lessen the healing time from the damage gluten has already done?

It seems that I've become lactose intolerance since I've been having my stomach problems from last year and milk products sometimes tend to rumble my abdomen and give me a bit of diarreah so I'm thinking it may be irriating my small intestines too.

Will that destroy the already fragile villi or slow the healing time?

I'm like "walking on egg shells" with every damn thing I eat now a days..lol.

[Lisa]

Mabiac:

Welcome to the site. You have come to a good place. You will learn more from the good people here than you will from any other place.

To anwser your questions:

1: I you have been diognosised with Celiac D, you have Celiac and gluten will continue to distroy your villi, yes that will happen.

2. Spicey foods do not necessarity destroy your villi unless they have gluten contained in the spices.

(Although, if your system is damaged, spicey foods may irritate you compromised system).

3. Often when diognosed with Celicac, others find that they are often irritatated by diary as well in the beginning stages.

4. Ask as many question of us that you need to. We have all been there and done that.

There are no dumb questions here, just lots of people who have been through what you are gong though.

I would not have been where I am now without the help of these people here that have helped me so greatly. Don't feel shy about posting your concernes or questions. It is a scary sometimes. I have meet so many good friends here and I encourage you to stay with us and learn.

Read alot of posts here and you will learn so much. Good luck to you and post with questions as much as you need to. You will get answers to all your questions.

Keep with us, Lisa

[Ursa Major]

Spices will not destroy the villi, but could slow the healing. Go easy on the spices for a while. About 80% of celiacs are initially intolerant to dairy as well as gluten, because the small intestine makes the enzyme that allows you to digest dairy, and it can't do that when damaged. Some people will be able to tolerate dairy again after being on the diet for about a year (some more, some less).

Not only gluten will destroy the villi, apparently, so will soy in people who are intolerant to it (I am intolerant to both soy and gluten).

Be wary of soy, many celiacs are intolerant to it as well.

Mabiac, just try and eat simple for a while, mostly foods naturally gluten free. With those you don't even have to worry.

In the meantime, rid your kitchen and bathroom of gluten. What I mean is, you need a new toaster if you eat gluten free breads, as it isn't possible to clean a toaster properly if you've used it for gluteny breads before. The same goes for wooden cutting boards and wooden spoons, plastic colanders (if you've used it for gluten noodles, you really can't get it cleaned properly and will contaminate your gluten-free noodles), scratched non-stick pots and pans (can't clean them properly).

Check your soap, shampoo, conditioner, lip balm, shaving cream (unless you use an electric razor) for hidden gluten (wheat germ oil, barley essence, whatever) and replace the ones that contain gluten with brands that don't.

Read ALL labels when shopping! It is amazing how many processed foods contain gluten. It is best and easiest to completely stay away from them. I hope you like to cook! (I don't, but I have to cook every meal for myself from scratch, too many intolerances)

[Mabiac]

Damn, I was wondering what happened to this thread!

I started another one in it's place thinking I may have deleted this one by accident, and THAT ONE seemed to have disappeared also.

Lisa

Thank you for the warm welcome.

Right now my suspicion of being gluten intolerant isn't so much scary as it's just frustrating trying to figure out where the hell this problem may have come from....lol.

Why is it so common yet so "unheard of"?

Ursula

Check your soap, shampoo, conditioner, lip balm, shaving cream (unless you use an electric razor) for hidden gluten (wheat germ oil, barley essence, whatever) and replace the ones that contain gluten with brands that don't.

You know what.

I thought it was just me until you mentioned "wheat germ oil".

I used a hair-care product who's main ingredient was WHEAT GERM OIL for about a month, before my intestinal intussuception.

Something told me to just throw it out, and started using gel.

But the weird part is I seemed to also have problems using "Zest" soap.

And I love Zest.

But after about a week of using it, I start getting "heartburn" problems, and I'm thinking perhaps it may be to acidic or have something in it I'm allergic to.

I'm glad I came to this site.

I got other things to share with you guys like how I had major problems with my dental fillings until I got them removed.

I can spend an entire day talking about that ordeal.

[Ursa Major]

Hey, good for you for following your 'gut' instinct with the shampoo (pun intended)! I found that my shampoo caused me to have a terribly itchy scalp and rash. Since I've been using Dove shampoo and conditioner, and ivory soap, I am fine.

Buy yourself two books: "Dangerous Grains" by James Braly, and "Celiac Disease, a hidden epidemic", by Peter H. R. Green and Rory Jones. Those are fascinating reads and will answer almost all your questions. While I disagree with a few things in those books, they appear to be by far the best books out there on celiac disease.

To your questions: Doctors have been told for a long time that only people with the 'classic' symptoms of diarrhea, malnutrition and weight loss could possibly have celiac disease. Actually, those people are only the tip of the iceberg. It will likely still be a long time before doctors will get it. Medical schools are a huge problem, because they barely mention celiac disease at all for the most part. They are also still taught that celiac disease is very rare. So, they don't expect to see many cases and dismiss even the ones that are pretty obvious, diagnosing people with an easy diagnosis like irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), and sending them home with pills, instead of investigating what actually CAUSES the bowel to be irritated!

[Mabiac]

Ursula

To your questions: Doctors have been told for a long time that only people with the 'classic' symptoms of diarrhea, malnutrition and weight loss could possibly have celiac disease. Actually, those people are only the tip of the iceberg. It will likely still be a long time before doctors will get it. Medical schools are a huge problem, because they barely mention celiac disease at all for the most part. They are also still taught that celiac disease is very rare.

Yes, that's what threw me off.

I'm Black and overweight...plus my symptoms were constipation and not diarreah so I thought to myself I couldn't possible have Celiacs.

I didn't fit the profile.

But whether I actually have it or not, avoiding all gluten seems to get rid of the symptoms so it must atleast have something to do with the problem.