Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Blood Test Qustion


bchapa

Recommended Posts

bchapa Newbie

Ok, the test results, based off of blood work, for our 16 month old came back negative. The Dr. wants us to stay on the gluten free foods for about 2 months and then introduce him to gluten again. At that point, he will do another blood test. If this test comes back negative, there is a very good chance he does not have celiac. I know one thing, no negative testing, regarding this intolerance, is definitive.

This is the way I understand it, and please let me know if any body agrees or does not agree. They are testing for two antigens, DRQ2 or DRQ8. Neither of these were found in the last panel, but he had been on a gluten free diet for about 3 or 4 weeks. The next test will come after he has been introduced to gluten again. If he does have celiac disease, he should produce one of these antibodies that attaches to the gluten and causes damage to the small intestine. This would cause a positive result in the next test which would mean he probably does have celiac.

Has anybody out there gone through this procedure with their children? If so, has anybody had a negative result on the second test and their child still show an intolerance to gluten?

Thanks for reading,

Billy


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jestgar Rising Star

They didn't explain this to you very well.

DRQ2 and 8 are the genes and they don't routinely test for those. The antibodies are:

anti-gliadin, anti-tissue transglutaminase, and anti-endomysial (sp). Except for the names, your understanding is correct.

I think you'll find that many parents couldn't handle the results when they tried to reintroduce their child to gluten and that response was definitive enough for them.

happygirl Collaborator

If they did gene testing, it is HLA DQ2 and HLA DQ8. They are the Celiac genes. They will be there/not there regardless of gluten intake.

The full Celiac panel is (blood/serology)

Anti-gliadin antibodies (AGA) both IgA and IgG

Anti-endomysial antibodies (EMA) - IgA

Anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTG) - IgA

Total IgA level.

www.celiacdiseasecenter.columbia.edu or www.celiaccenter.org

janelyb Enthusiast

My son had these tests done

Anti-gliadin antibodies (AGA) both IgA and IgG

Anti-endomysial antibodies (EMA) - IgA

Anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTG) - IgA

They all came back negative except for the IgG one which I was told means it was inconclusive or negative however you want to look at it. My son was gluten lite when he took it and those #'s were high then I put in on a high gluten diet and those same #'s were still high. He has a ton of GI symtoms so we were told and decided to challenge him on the gluten-free diet. I basically am trying my best to treat him as tho he is truely celiac....we have had a few mishaps with cross contaiminations. But he is looking a bit better. The couple of times before we went strict gluten-free I gave him non gluten-free cookies or gold fishes and he instantly complained of tummy pain. My son is 3.5 yrs old. I have no doubt my son has a gluten intollerence...whether or not it is celiac is where I am stuck. I would love to get the gene test done but my doctor has swayed not to.

Good luck. I've been reading alot and from what I understand testing young kids under age 6 you often get false negitives.

kookaburra Rookie

They all came back negative except for the IgG one which I was told means it was inconclusive or negative however you want to look at it. My son was gluten lite when he took it and those #'s were high then I put in on a high gluten diet and those same #'s were still high. He has a ton of GI symtoms so we were told and decided to challenge him on the gluten-free diet. I basically am trying my best to treat him as tho he is truely celiac....we have had a few mishaps with cross contaiminations. But he is looking a bit better. The couple of times before we went strict gluten-free I gave him non gluten-free cookies or gold fishes and he instantly complained of tummy pain. My son is 3.5 yrs old. I have no doubt my son has a gluten intollerence...whether or not it is celiac is where I am stuck. I would love to get the gene test done but my doctor has swayed not to.

We're in the exact same boat (no positives except moderately high IgG). He has improved so much gluten free, but it is frustrating not knowing definitively. Have you made any other discoveries? Our son was treated for yeast, and the response was very positive. I guess that is controversial, though.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - nancydrewandtheceliacclue replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    2. - trents replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    3. - nancydrewandtheceliacclue replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    4. - Russ H replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    5. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      1

      Skin issues

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,045
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    Urquhart
    Newest Member
    Urquhart
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • nancydrewandtheceliacclue
      Hi Trent, no dairy. Other than good quality butter. I have been lactose free for years. No corn, sugar, even seasonings and spices. I don't eat out. I cook my own food.
    • trents
      @nancydrewandtheceliacclue, are you consuming dairy? Not sure if dairy is part of the carnivore diet.
    • nancydrewandtheceliacclue
      Hello Russ! Thank you so much for your reply.  I have not had an antibody test done, ever, relating to gluten. Last year I had an allergy test done via blood draw (as my insurance wouldn't cover the skin test) but this was for pollen and grasses, not food. Even on the blood test I had extremely high levels of reactions to each allergen. Could this seasonal allergy inflammation be contributing to my celiac inflammation? I am so careful, there is no way I could ingest gluten. For example, couple of months ago I tried a cough drop that says it was gluten free. I checked ingredients, it seemed fine. But just taking one of those caused me to have nausea, vomiting, and the same extreme abdominal pain. Have you ever heard of anyone else having symptoms like mine after being diagnosed celiac and strictly gluten free? The last episode I had like this was yesterday, after I ate a certified gluten-free coconut macaroon with a little chocolate on it. I have eaten coconut and chocolate before with no issue,  so I didn't see how I could all of a sudden have such a strong response. 
    • Russ H
      The sensitivity of people with coeliac disease varies greatly between individuals. The generally accepted as safe limit for most people is 10 milligrams per day. This equates to a piece of bread the size of a small pea. Some people report that they are more sensitive than this, but others can very occasionally eat a normal gluten containing meal without reacting. I don't think that touching or throwing bread around would lead to you ingesting enough to cause a reaction. There are case reports of farmers with coeliac disease reacting to the dust from gluten-containing animal feed but they were inhaling large amounts of dust over a long period of time in barns. Perhaps you episodes are caused by a reaction to something other than gluten? Have you had your antibody levels checked to see whether you are still being exposed to gluten?
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, Been here.  It's okay.  You're not imagining things, but there's no bugs or parasites in your skin.  The cats are not infecting you with anything.  That's a hyperkeratotic plug that builds up in a hair follicle which does go deep and is attached by the hair sheath that looks stringy.  It's a type of thing seen commonly in Dermatitis Herpetiformis.   Niacin B 3, in the form Nicotinic Acid (active form that causes flushing) or in the form Niacinamide will help immensely with clearing this up.  Take 100 mg three times a day, and Tryptophan (another form of Niacin) to help you sleep and heal your intestines at night.   Kidney stones can result when the body doesn't have sufficient Thiamine B 1.   Are you taking a B Complex supplement?  The eight B vitamins are water soluble.  Many people with Celiac Disease benefit by taking a B Complex to boost absorption.   The cloves are great because they can reduce inflammation, but your body needs the Bs and extra Niacinamide as well.  Benfotiamine, a form of Thiamine B 1, is also needed in higher doses to heal the intestines.  If you get your intestines calmed down, your skin will calm down, too.  Benfotiamine has anticancer potential in higher doses. Rapid resolution of delusional parasitosis in pellagra with niacin augmentation therapy https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19061687/ Tryptophan metabolism: From physiological functions to key roles and therapeutic targets in cancer (Review) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12139378/ Thiamine and benfotiamine: Focus on their therapeutic potential https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10682628/
×
×
  • Create New...