Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

How To Proceed With Son


Blackbird

Recommended Posts

Blackbird Newbie

Hello, I am new here and love all the information on these forums.

I am gluten intolerant with only a negative antibody test to show for it. The test was done after I had already been mostly gluten free (except for CC which I wasn't careful about for a long time) for several months. I never did a gluten challenge because the slightest bit of gluten makes me ill and I can't bear the thought of intentionally eating it again.

Fast forward a couple of years... I am getting more and more sensitive to CC. My son, who is now in kindergarten, has some significant attention issues but does not fully fit the profile for ADD or ADHD. Incidentally, his paternal grandfather was dx'd celiac about 10 years ago. Since my son has gluten intolerance on both sides of his family tree, I decided to have him tested last week - and his antibody test came back negative. He is well nourished, not anemic, in the 50% percentile for weight and height. He complains frequently of stomachaches but doesn't have constipation or diarrhea, and he gets growing pains in his legs at night. Because of these symptoms and his attention issues I think I would like to do further testing but there seem to be a lot of options. Would you recommend a gene test? Stool test? Both? I'm at a loss. I think whatever I have done on him, I will do as well and probably DH also, so it will be a chunk of cash - I want to choose wisely.

Would appreciate any advice and experiences you would like to relay. Thanks in advance!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Cara in Boston Enthusiast

Which tests did you have done? My son (6) tested negative on all the IgA tests, even though he has enough. It was his IgG tests that came back questionable. He had very few symptoms (most behavioral) so we weren't sure if we should move ahead with the biopsy. Turns out, his biopsy showed that he has celiac. If he had only been given the IgA tests, we would have never known there was a problem.

Cara

ravenwoodglass Mentor

This is just my own opinion but I would go with Enterolab stool testing for antibodies. Do know that you need to be eating gluten for any of the testing to be positive as antibodies are what they are looking for. You seem to already have the answer for yourself, gluten makes you ill if you eat it. Enterolab can also do gene testing. Enterolab does not diagnose celiac but if you are making antibodies your body does not want gluten. Some places only test for 2 of the celiac associated genes and there are up to 27. Gene testing in itself also is not diagnostic as people can have the genes and never develop celiac and people can have celiac and not have the most commonly associated genes. IMHO the best test is to delete gluten from your diet and then if there is still doubt add it back in and see if symptoms reoccur. You do have to be strict on the trial as even a very small amount of gluten will keep your reactions going or cause a good one day lousy the next sort of thing.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to ThomasA55's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

    2. - Joseph01 replied to bethmon's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      14

      We Keep Getting Glutened With Vegetable Oil

    3. - ThomasA55 posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      1

      Iron loss and potential celiac.

    4. - Aretaeus Cappadocia replied to Aretaeus Cappadocia's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Edy's and Dreyer's ice cream

    5. - knitty kitty replied to Aretaeus Cappadocia's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      2

      Edy's and Dreyer's ice cream

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,086
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    Joseph01
    Newest Member
    Joseph01
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ThomasA55! Before I give my opinion on your question about whether or not you should undergo a gluten challenge, I would like to know how you react when you get a good dose of gluten? Are you largely asymptomatic or do you experience significant illness such as nausea and diarrhea? You mentioned intermittent joint pain before you began experimenting with a low gluten diet. Anything else?
    • Joseph01
      This is way past due for your post.  I have Celiac and have been recovering for more than a year.  Doing well.  Used Essential oil to day to fry some chicken.  Read the label all good.  Then ate some chicken.  Here comes the gluten reaction.  I haven't had a gluten reaction since year.  I am angry.   I have been so careful with this crap and don't wan't any set backs!!!!! Good luck to you with your post.   Celiac is HELL!
    • ThomasA55
      Hey everyone. I'm a young adult who had very high iron in 2024. 64% saturation 160 ferritin. In 2025 I had far lower iron. 26% saturation and 130 ferritin. I know this is still in range but it seems to be a large drop. That combined with the fact that I developed some intermittent joint pain between the two years makes me wonder if I could be celiac. My dietary intake of iron was pretty steady (mostly in the form of red meat). I did carnivore (therby eliminating gluten) for a bit after the second test and felt improvements in my joints and digestion. I still consume gluten occasionally socially, for religious reasons, and through cross contamination/food sharing. For these reasons, I would need to know if I had it, because although my lifestyle is low gluten its not at the strict level it should be if it turned out I was celiac. I will get a gene test first and hope I don't have DQ2.5,DQ2.2, or DQ8, but if I had any combination of those do you guys think I need proper screening through a gluten challenge / blood test? Other context. From 2024-2025, my b12 stayed about the same in the mid 600s folate went up slightly, but I heard it takes longer for celiac to affect the absorption of these. ANA negative, CRP low, ESR low.  I don't know how much noise exists around the saturation and ferritin, but it caught my eye and Celiac seemed like a possibility. I'm under no illusion that it is probable that I have celiac, only that it may be worth screening given my overall profile.   
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      Sigh. I posted this yesterday based on the Safeway website. I went back again today to their website to double check. On the page where they are selling Vanilla Bean flavor, it has a distinct Certified Gluten Free label. Other flavors on the Safeway website didn't have the gluten-free statement. Today I went into the store. None of the flavors I looked at, including Vanilla Bean, have a Gluten Free statement. Is it safe? Who knows. The ingredients are either safe or nearly safe (some have "natural flavor"). There are warnings about "contains milk and soy" but not about wheat - this implies they are safe, but again, who knows. On the other hand, every flavor I checked of their Slow Churn line of ice creams has wheat as an ingredient. 100% not safe.
    • knitty kitty
      Do keep in mind that many of the newly diagnosed have lactose intolerance.  This is because the villi lining the intestinal tract are damaged, and can no longer make the enzyme lactAse which breaks down the milk sugar lactOse.  When the villi grow back (six months to two years), they can again produce the enzyme lactAse, and lactose intolerance is resolved.  However, some people (both those with and without Celiac Disease) are genetically programmed to stop producing lactase as they age.   Do be aware that many processed foods, including ice cream, use Microbial Transglutaminase, a food additive commonly called "meat glue," used to enhance texture and flavor.  This microbial transglutaminase has the same immunogenicity as tissue transglutaminase which the body produces in response to gluten in people with Celiac Disease.  Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg IgA) is measured to diagnose Celiac Disease in blood tests.  Microbial Transglutaminase acts the same as Tissue Transglutaminase, causing increased intestinal permeability and inflammation.   New findings show that microbial transglutaminase may be able to trigger Celiac Disease and other autoimmune and neurodegenerative diseases.   Microbial Transglutaminase is not required to be listed on ingredients labels as it's considered a processing aid, not an ingredient in the U.S.  Microbial Transglutaminase has been GRAS for many years, but that GRAS standing is being questioned more and more as the immunogenicity of microbial transglutaminase is being discovered. Interesting Reading:  Microbial Transglutaminase Is a Very Frequently Used Food Additive and Is a Potential Inducer of Autoimmune/Neurodegenerative Diseases https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8537092/
×
×
  • Create New...