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Mike44

Codex Wheat

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Hi all,

Whats the story with Codex Wheat?

Is it safe?

Has anybody had any problems with it?

Apparently, the best bread available in the UK is Juvella. BUT, it contains Codex Wheat, which I understand contains a little gluten.

Also, Kelloggs Rice Crispies contains Codex Wheat. I haven't found a gluten-free breakfast cereal that I like the taste of, so would love to be able to eat Rice Crispies if they're safe. I do know that they are listed in the Coeliac UK directory as being safe.

Would appreciate your input, folks.

Mike.

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Hi Mike,

The 'is codex safe?' debate rumbles on and on in the UK.

Some coeliacs seem to react, some don't.

Have a read of this old thread here

Confusing I know!! :blink:

It's a personal thing.

All I can say is my hubby and son have it occasionally without any upset. :)


It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required - Sir Winston Churchill

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Hi Mike,

The 'is codex safe?' debate rumbles on and on in the UK.

Some coeliacs seem to react, some don't.

Have a read of this old thread here

Confusing I know!! :blink:

It's a personal thing.

All I can say is my hubby and son have it occasionally without any upset. :)

Hi Nikki

Thanks for your reply. I ate some rice crispies this morning and seem to be ok, so......

It is trial and error, as you say.

Mike.

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Hi Mike

It's very confusing, isn't it? Especially when an ordinary product can say it's gluten free but still have wheat in it. I'm pretty sure I've been glutened by glutafin's cake mix, which isn't wheat free. I tend to wonder, how many codex items would I have to eat before it becomes bad for me, and why should I try to find out? But, as Nikki says, it is a personal thing and we do learn by trial and error.

As for breakfast cereals, the supermarkets do stock several good ones in their free from sections. Alternatively, try eating aomething different for breakfast. Do you like pancakes? I get Schar flour mix C on prescription. That's totally wheat free and makes the best pancakes in the world :D

As for bread, I'm yet to find one I'm really happy with. I've chosen not to have Juvella because I'm trying to be dairy free as well as wheat free. Where do you live? If you've got Waitrose in you're area, Antoinette Saville does a bread there which is very good indeed.

Let us know if you need any more help on what to eat. Also, make sure you send off for loads of freebies to try everything before spending loads of money.

Susie


Susie from Coventry, UK

IBS & GERD 2000

Screened for coeliac disease as sister has it - negative blood test

Nov 2005 positive blood tests

January 2006 dx by biopsy

gluten-free and dairy lite since then

I am also neutropenic, anaemic and have hypothyroidism

Feb 08: free protein S deficiency; candida overgrowth; adrenal exhaustion

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Hi Mike

It's very confusing, isn't it? Especially when an ordinary product can say it's gluten free but still have wheat in it. I'm pretty sure I've been glutened by glutafin's cake mix, which isn't wheat free. I tend to wonder, how many codex items would I have to eat before it becomes bad for me, and why should I try to find out? But, as Nikki says, it is a personal thing and we do learn by trial and error.

As for breakfast cereals, the supermarkets do stock several good ones in their free from sections. Alternatively, try eating aomething different for breakfast. Do you like pancakes? I get Schar flour mix C on prescription. That's totally wheat free and makes the best pancakes in the world :D

As for bread, I'm yet to find one I'm really happy with. I've chosen not to have Juvella because I'm trying to be dairy free as well as wheat free. Where do you live? If you've got Waitrose in you're area, Antoinette Saville does a bread there which is very good indeed.

Let us know if you need any more help on what to eat. Also, make sure you send off for loads of freebies to try everything before spending loads of money.

Susie

Hi

Yeah was at Waitrose today but the only bread they seem to sell is Dietary Special which to be honest tastes like cardboard.

Mike.

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Unfortunately (wouldn't you know it!) it would seem that products with Codex (especially bread ) seem to taste better. :rolleyes:

..but if you are wanting to avoid codex I'm sure you'll get better results making your own bread.( pretty sure Glutafin do a codex free prescription bread mix )

Even better - invest in a bread maker!!

I've got to say - making bread yourself has far superior taste to any of the shop bought (which in my opinion are only good for toast!) - but I know it's not always possible to have the time to make it.

Another thing I would say is not to try and compare gluten-free bread to normal bread!!

When my hubby first started the diet he found all the breads disgusting..but you know over time his tastes have changed and recently tried some bread products again.

This time he found them more palatable and judged them more on their own merit as opposed to comparing them to normal bread. :)


It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required - Sir Winston Churchill

Nikki

Son diagnosed with Coeliac Disease Oct 2006 by biopsy (at age 13yrs)

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Hi all,

Whats the story with Codex Wheat?

Is it safe?

Has anybody had any problems with it?

Apparently, the best bread available in the UK is Juvella. BUT, it contains Codex Wheat, which I understand contains a little gluten.

Also, Kelloggs Rice Crispies contains Codex Wheat. I haven't found a gluten-free breakfast cereal that I like the taste of, so would love to be able to eat Rice Crispies if they're safe. I do know that they are listed in the Coeliac UK directory as being safe.

Would appreciate your input, folks.

Mike.

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In Canada & the US we can buy "Nature's Path" Organic Crispy Rice cereal (wheat free, gluten free) and they taste just like Rice Krispies. www.naturespath.com

Ingredients: organic brown rice flour, granulated organic sugar cane juice,organic molasses, rice bran extract and sea salt.

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Hi again

Just went to the Nature's path website and clicked on "where to buy" , clicked on UK and this came up:

Community Foods

enquiries@communityfoods.co.uk

Hope that helps re: the Rice Krispies question

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I once had an amaranth cereal that tasted like rice crispies. It was just shaped differently. It even made the familiar snap-crackle-pop, and I'd guess it would make quite a rice crispy treat alternative. I don't recall the name of it, but how many brands of it can there be?


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This Codex wheat thing is an interesting one, though I've no intention of trying any. I did a Google search for it and this came up:

http://www.coeliac.co.uk/glutenfree_living...shopping/78.asp


A spherical meteorite 10 km in diameter traveling at 20 km/s has the kinetic energy equal to the calories in 550,000,000,000,000,000 Twinkies.

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This Codex wheat thing is an interesting one, though I've no intention of trying any. I did a Google search for it and this came up:

http://www.coeliac.co.uk/glutenfree_living...shopping/78.asp

I think that CUK article was referring to Kellogs cornflakes being taken of the gluten-free list in the UK as newer tests revealed the levels of gluten (barley malt) were in fact higher than the codex limit (200ppm)

However, in the UK there are several brands of cornflakes/rice crispies that are deemed 'safe for coeliacs' BUT contain Codex levels of barley malt.

Natures Path Crispy Rice is the only one I know of without any codex levels of any gluten.

Another suprisingly tasty cereal from Natures Path is Mesa Sunrise flakes (corn,flax and amaranth).

Both of these are available at some of the larger stores of Sainsbury's, Tesco and health food stores in the UK :)


It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required - Sir Winston Churchill

Nikki

Son diagnosed with Coeliac Disease Oct 2006 by biopsy (at age 13yrs)

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