The More I Research, The More It Seems Candida Is Always The Culprit

[Christina98]

The more I research, the more it seems Candida is always the culprit for many other things.Story aftter story I read says ultimately these people have candida first (didnt know it) then candida left untreated creates allergies or sensitivities (or whatever you wanna call it) other DISEASE's.

Does anyone else out there agree with this? Has anyone read about it so much that it seems candida is coming first?

Some days i am truly scared!

[flourgirl]

Hi Christina. There are threads here that deal with this, and I know there is plenty of info. out there. I think this is something each person has to decide for themselves. The more I read, the more confused I am about the whole thing. Some people claim fairly rapid success, others struggle with the Candida diet for a long time. From what I read, this is not something generally recognized by physicians.....while at the same time I realize that they don't know everything, and that there are MANY conditions that are now valid that they didn't recognize not so long ago. Does that make sense? I'm still researching, but skittish. I hope others can answer your questions (and some of mine...I'll be reading the responses, too!) Good luck in your search for answers.

[smerrill8]

I have heard this also. In fact, a mom I 'know' online has a son who was diagnosed with celiac disease - tests came back all very positive for celiac disease. They did an aggressive yeast diet and treatment (some kind of medicine and probiotic combo) and once he was yeast free for a while, all his old symptoms went away and he has tested negative for celiac ever since... who knows?

[Christina98]

I have heard this also. In fact, a mom I 'know' online has a son who was diagnosed with celiac disease - tests came back all very positive for celiac disease. They did an aggressive yeast diet and treatment (some kind of medicine and probiotic combo) and once he was yeast free for a while, all his old symptoms went away and he has tested negative for celiac ever since... who knows?

sounds like it.I dont know anymore either but I think its slowly becoming my theory.

[Jestgar]

Search engines will show you whatever you search for. If you search for candida and celiac disease, that's what you'll pull up. Don't confuse what you see, with what is true in the majority of cases.

[Christina98]

Search engines will show you whatever you search for. If you search for candida and celiac disease, that's what you'll pull up. Don't confuse what you see, with what is true in the majority of cases.

Maybe its me but I am not understanding what you are saying. "Don't confuse what you see, with what is true in the majority of cases."

Maybe you cant break it down for me:)

It does seem to be true in the majority of the cases,It seems as though Candida is almost always present.

[jacflash]

My sense, and this is possibly unkind and unfair, is that "candida" sells an awful lot of supplements and books, and provides a lot of possibly-false hope to people who have clusters of symptoms that regular docs can't seem to deal with. I am highly highly skeptical of the whole thing. I am especially highly skeptical of it because if it panned out scientifically (and were really as pervasive as its proponents say it is) it seems like it'd be a golden area for someone like Pfizer or Merck to tool up a superdrug to attack it, and yet no serious research is known to be underway on that front.

[Gfresh404]

My sense, and this is possibly unkind and unfair, is that "candida" sells an awful lot of supplements and books, and provides a lot of possibly-false hope to people who have clusters of symptoms that regular docs can't seem to deal with. I am highly highly skeptical of the whole thing. I am especially highly skeptical of it because if it panned out scientifically (and were really as pervasive as its proponents say it is) it seems like it'd be a golden area for someone like Pfizer or Merck to tool up a superdrug to attack it, and yet no serious research is known to be underway on that front.

I would have to agree. I honestly would not be that surprised that everyone who was treating themselves for Candida have Celiac. I was convinced I had Candida because I always found that grains, sugars, and starches made my symptoms much worse. Turn outs, it was just the gluten. The treatment for Candida, is also coincidentally, very similar to the treatment of Celiac (albeit Celiac being much more strict).

[Christina98]

I would have to agree. I honestly would not be that surprised that everyone who was treating themselves for Candida have Celiac. I was convinced I had Candida because I always found that grains, sugars, and starches made my symptoms much worse. Turn outs, it was just the gluten. The treatment for Candida, is also coincidentally, very similar to the treatment of Celiac (albeit Celiac being much more strict).

well I have also learned that Candida does cause a lot of digestio problems.Un-digested food = an envoroment that breeds bad stuff,then in turn people develop allergies or intolerances (leaky Gut)

Tons of people I have come in contact with seem to always have both (?????????)

[coldnight]

I would have to agree. I honestly would not be that surprised that everyone who was treating themselves for Candida have Celiac. I was convinced I had Candida because I always found that grains, sugars, and starches made my symptoms much worse. Turn outs, it was just the gluten. The treatment for Candida, is also coincidentally, very similar to the treatment of Celiac (albeit Celiac being much more strict).

Same here, I've heard candida for years. Starches and sugars don't bother me nearly as much now that I cut out gluten. Not perfect condition, but there is drastic improvement, of course it's somewhat offset by the fact that I don't take codeine or morphine every day now, but much better this way. =)

[RiceGuy]

Well, I can say with absolute certainty, that I had tons of symptoms, and no doctor could say what was wrong. The caprylic acid I took worked a virtual miracle, and the dietary restrictions did NOT include cutting carbs. I was still eating TONS of gluten. An entire pound of pasta and half a loaf of bread every day. So unless the caprylic acid does something totally different, yet still resolves the problems, then I'd have to say candida overgrowth is a very real condition. And it seems likely that it effects a lot of people, Celiac or not.

I think it is interesting though, that the responses to this topic include both the notion that Celiac may sometimes be mistaken for candida, and that candida may sometimes be mistaken for Celiac. Perhaps both happen?

[nora-n]

There was this long yeast thread here in this folder a year or so ago, and there IS a Lancet article that explains in detail how yeast can trigger celiac antibodies.

[Christina98]

There was this long yeast thread here in this folder a year or so ago, and there IS a Lancet article that explains in detail how yeast can trigger celiac antibodies.

Thanks! Im gonna try to find that article.The more info the better!

[RiceGuy]

I am especially highly skeptical of it because if it panned out scientifically (and were really as pervasive as its proponents say it is) it seems like it'd be a golden area for someone like Pfizer or Merck to tool up a superdrug to attack it, and yet no serious research is known to be underway on that front.

One would like to think so, but just how many drugs have actually been marketed to CURE a condition, rather than just "treat" symptoms? Drug companies seem to be only interested in things which they can get people to continually take, especially life-long. But they do sell all sorts of drugs aimed at symptoms which are often caused by candida and other curable things. Anti-depressants and sleeping pills are just two examples of this. Why sell one bottle of a cure, when you can sell a thousand bottles of a "treatment"?

[Jestgar]

Candida can be cured by a drug. If, however, you have a reoccurring infection, I would be inclined to think that you have an underlying immune disorder that is preventing your body from regulating it's inhabitants. Therefor, a Candida infection that returns after treatment is a symptom, not a disease.