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Different Reactions On Different Intolerances?


Yenni

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Yenni Enthusiast

I seem to get one reaction out of gluten and dairy (the strongest and fastest) and soy gives me tons of heartburn usually... Then there is corn and egg that seem to have a slower reaction. I seem to be able to do fine on them for a few times in a row and then it hits me bad one day (I usually get enthusiastic about being able to eat them so I keep on every day until I get that bad reaction and remember why I stopped all the other times I tried them again- hope never dies.. :rolleyes: ..or I am just stupid.)

Anyone else recognize this "phenomenon"?


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I think my daughter is doing that . . . She reacted immediately to wheat the one time that I knew she was glutened. Other times she reacts and there is no apparent cause. She's eating the same thing she eats everyday . . . almost. We know she reacts when she has a lot of blue dye but not a little. Now I'm wondering if the blue dye "builds up" until she finally has a reaction (much less of a reaction than gluten but the same type). Her brother was the same way with red dye but his reaction was a rash. If he had a little, no problems, but if he had a lot within a short time (within a day or two, not one sitting), then he would get a rash.

Yenni Enthusiast
I think my daughter is doing that . . . She reacted immediately to wheat the one time that I knew she was glutened. Other times she reacts and there is no apparent cause. She's eating the same thing she eats everyday . . . almost. We know she reacts when she has a lot of blue dye but not a little. Now I'm wondering if the blue dye "builds up" until she finally has a reaction (much less of a reaction than gluten but the same type). Her brother was the same way with red dye but his reaction was a rash. If he had a little, no problems, but if he had a lot within a short time (within a day or two, not one sitting), then he would get a rash.

I know Dr Fine (behind Entero Lab) talks about delayed reactions when eating gluten, so it must be able to happen with any of the intolerances you would think.

I actually thought it was quite common, but not many answered this, so maybe it isn't.

Sure can make things harder trying to figure out what causes it huh? I have been trying egg so many times now and always end up getting real sick in the end, so now I am pretty sure it is egg...I think. It just has to be.

Darn210 Enthusiast

Have you tried the egg where you keep strict limits? Only an egg a week or something along those lines?

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I seem to get one reaction out of gluten and dairy (the strongest and fastest) and soy gives me tons of heartburn usually... Then there is corn and egg that seem to have a slower reaction. I seem to be able to do fine on them for a few times in a row and then it hits me bad one day (I usually get enthusiastic about being able to eat them so I keep on every day until I get that bad reaction and remember why I stopped all the other times I tried them again- hope never dies.. :rolleyes: ..or I am just stupid.)

Anyone else recognize this "phenomenon"?

I'm a little rusty on my allergy/intolerance knowledge, but it is possible to react to something immediately and other things you can have a delayed reaction to.

I often experience an accumulative effect reaction, I might have real mild symptoms after eating something and think I can get away with it and the more I eat of it the sicker I get.

Also some things can have a synergistic effect, causing a stronger reaction when two or more things are eaten together, like dairy with gluten, or dairy with sugar, or corn with dairy.

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It turns out I have tons of allergies and intolerances, and after doing a lot of testing, i'm on an elimination diet eating only 20 foods right now. Since i'm really clean, I'm noticing things more easily. So far I've reacted three times (its been 8 days). First, I had some potato chips (for 2 days - this was a little delayed) and my intestines were upset, and it came out bad the next day. I think it was the canola oil. 3 days later, I tried a b-complex which said it was gluten free, and I was choking on phlegm 5 minutes later. The next day, I had some herbal tea before bed, and when I went to bed my lips were red and my throat was very scratchy. So, three very different reactions.

Gosh, three reactions in the first week of my diet, guess i'm not strict enuf lol . . .but at least i could see them really clearly.

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It turns out I have tons of allergies and intolerances, and after doing a lot of testing, i'm on an elimination diet eating only 20 foods right now.

When the testing is done, I'd be very interested in knowing the final treatment or diet you end up with.

I suddenly have a lot of allergies now and am down to a handful of foods albeit on my own, not by a doctor's direction. I experience the symptoms you mention (plus more, none of which are celiac-like). The one that you mention and which really caught my attention was the phlegm, which I do not think is a typical gluten reaction and probably non-celiac. That's why I'm interested. I think something else is happening and haven't found anything conclusive yet. The best I can come up with is that this may be leaky gut-related. Any clues that can be offered will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


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