covid 19 and leaky gut

[charks]

Hi there

Bit worried about an article I've just read in The Saturday Times. 

Apparently a leaky gut enables Covid 19 to infect the surface of the digestive track and internal organs. These are vunerable as their surfaces carry widespread ACE2 receptors, the portals that coronavirus uses to invade us. A quick search on the 'net backed up the article. 

Up to now I haven't been overly worried about covid 19. The people who seem to have the most severe reactions seem to have weight issues. Thanks to celiac disease I have a healthy BMI of 20. But I do follow all the guidelines because it is silly to takes chances. 

My partner is now telling me that I need to isolate. He is telling me to cancel my dentist appointment next week to fit my permanent dental bridge. I don't know what the situation is in the US but because of covid 19 it is very difficult to see a dentist in the UK and I have been waiting ages for this work.

Is he overreacting?   

I would appreciate any advice on this subject.     

 

 

 

 

 

 

[charks]

Sorry.

Forgot to include link to research connecting leaky gut and Covud 19

 https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201118/Severe-COVID-19-complications-linked-to-gut-barrier-breakdown.aspx

 

[raspberryfirecracker]

Hi charks, have you considered pushing this back until you can get the vaccine? I'm not sure dental health matters very much if you die two weeks afterward... 🤪 

[charks]

Hi there

Re reading my post I realise that I didn't fully explain my dental situation. 

Due to undiagnosed celiac disease for many years my teeth are in a terrible state. They literally crumbled away in my mouth. I lost one of my front teeth when it suddenly split in two vertically. I can't have implants because of bone loss so my dentist fitted a bridge. I have now changed dentists and my new dentist has told me that my bridge has been designed incorrectly and is placing too much stress on the remaining teeth which have had root canals and are very fragile. If something isn't done soon she thinks I will lose all my front teeth and have to have a partial denture. My mother had one and it was so uncomfortable she never used it.

I am desperate to avoid having a partial denture fitted. My dentist needs to take out my existing bridge and carry out remedial work urgently.

My dentist is so worried she is coming in on her day off to help me. She is shielding and will wear full surgical PPE. As it is her day off I will be her only patient. 

I don't want to be too dramatic but I just can't bare the thought of having to wear a partial denture for the rest of my life.     

 

[Ivana]

Hello Charks,

the decision is ultimately up to you. 

I would say, however, that there is no way of knowing how long this pandemic will last. But we still have to take care of our health issues - dental work such as you described being one of them. I think if your dentists takes all the necessary precautions then there is much less risk of catching Covid than in most other situations. Perhaps take into consideration the longest possible time you can "wait it out" before this dental work, and if it is not months, then waiting for the vaccine might be too long.

Also, I am not an expert to comment on the study, but I see it was published in November. That is already considered quite some time ago in the ongoing covid research, and yet no "official" celiac website mentions the study as proof of increased risk of complications in celiacs. But I am also hoping someone on the forum with expertise can give their two cents!

I hope you will be able to get this sorted out safely as soon as possible!

[Posterboy]

7 hours ago, charks said:

Hi there

Re reading my post I realise that I didn't fully explain my dental situation. 

Due to undiagnosed celiac disease for many years my teeth are in a terrible state. They literally crumbled away in my mouth. I lost one of my front teeth when it suddenly split in two vertically. I can't have implants because of bone loss so my dentist fitted a bridge. I have now changed dentists and my new dentist has told me that my bridge has been designed incorrectly and is placing too much stress on the remaining teeth which have had root canals and are very fragile. If something isn't done soon she thinks I will lose all my front teeth and have to have a partial denture. My mother had one and it was so uncomfortable she never used it.

I am desperate to avoid having a partial denture fitted. My dentist needs to take out my existing bridge and carry out remedial work urgently.

My dentist is so worried she is coming in on her day off to help me. She is shielding and will wear full surgical PPE. As it is her day off I will be her only patient. 

I don't want to be too dramatic but I just can't bare the thought of having to wear a partial denture for the rest of my life.     

 

Charks,

I have had similar bad teeth......I don't have much time tonight....maybe I will more time latter in the week and go into more details...

FWIW I am in the same situation......

But I have found I enjoy my partial over my bottom plate......I am trying to decide on implants for my full denture (bottom)....

Partials are easily adjusted.....and is part of normal maintenance.....I had my partial adjusted once or twice then if it fine!

I could of adjusted with pliers myself (if I wanted too)....but didn't think it would be covered by insurance if I broke it accidentally....

The dentist on my follow up.....showed me  how to adjust it myself (If I needed to)....by working the wire in or out......but I didn't need too!

I wanted to ask how is your Vitamin D levels?

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201204/People-with-vitamin-D-deficiency-at-higher-risk-of-severe-COVID-19-says-study.aspx

Your case of COVID-19 is likely to more Severe IF you are low in Vitamin D.

I also recommend this study on B-Vitamins and COVID-19....that explain how Vitamins help regulate our Immune System...

https://www.maturitas.org/article/S0378-5122(20)30348-0/fulltext#%20

See figure 1.....you can easily scan it for now as an overview and go back and read it it's entirety later...

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

[knitty kitty]

Take your B Complex vitamins....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7428453/

Be well: A potential role for vitamin B in COVID-19

 

And Vitamin D

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210121/Vitamin-D-deficiency-associated-with-higher-risk-of-COVID-19-hospitalization.aspx

Vitamin D deficiency associated with higher risk of COVID-19 hospitalization

 

[charks]

Hi there

Thanks for your advice. 

This forum has been a life saver. I take all advice on board and take all the recommended supplements. Whenever I have a question about my symptoms I know that I will find the answer on the forum. It may take a while but I am a speed reader so I get there eventually. 

I live in the UK. My experience of the NHS is pretty dismal. I have been left to my own to deal with being a celiac. It doesn't help that I also have diabetes type 2. Being a celiac means that I have unpredictable absorption which makes it very difficult to control blood sugar. I was having an hypoglycaemia attack every night at 3 am. At one stage I thought I was dying - my blood sugar was 2.3. The diabetic nurse said it was impossible. But it's not. Apparently it's quite common if you are a celiac and also diabetic. My sugar levels can rise or fall to dangerous levels with an hour. Hopefully  this will sort itself out when my leaky gut repairs itself. 

Anyway. I've decided to go ahead with my dentist appointment. I think I'm being over anxious.   

 Once again many thanks

Charlotte.   

 

[Kate333]

Hi Charks.    Do I think your partner is overreacting?  Yes...but we are all understandably nervous these days.  I've not seen any valid study discussing higher risk of CV to those with celiac disease or other GI issues.  However, I have seen PLENTY of studies linking poor dental hygiene/neglect to gum/blood infections that can actually damage the cardiovascular system and endanger one's health.  

For what it's worth, I also postponed a routine annual dental cleaning, x-rays last year for about 4 months because I was so afraid of possible pandemic exposure.  I was originally scheduled in September 2020, before CV vaccines were even approved by regulators here in the USA. 

My dentist kept sending "reminders" to contact them (phone msgs, texts etc.) back in early Sept.  I even had to call their office and ask that they remove me from the daily automated reminder list because their calls/texts had become so frequent/annoying...LOL  IMO, here in the US, where dental care is completely privatized (not part of government health care) many dentists started panicking about lost profits when their business sharply declined after the pandemic...:).    That said, I eventually scheduled and had cleaning earlier this month because some of my teeth were becoming a bit stained from caffeine and my gums a bit sore in places due to long-overdue routine cleaning and I was getting sick of the increasing anxiety toll on my health.   I am so glad I did! 

I didn't quarantine afterwards because I had no reason to do so (no symptoms after the visit and the clinic staff were SUPER-CAUTIOUS.  The dental clinic staff were completely covered from head to toe by PPE, including gloves and medical quality masks/face shields, and I only spent half an hour in the clinic.  Also, I made sure I booked the very first appt. of the day (7 AM) to minimize any exposure to other patients/staff, and I was pleased to see the receptionist taking temperatures at check-in and ensuring 6-feet distance between patients while they waited.  

[Kate333]

I also wanted to add that, in addition to a dentist visit, I have had several visits to my doctors' offices/clinic over the past year for preventative care, routine blood tests, an annual flu shot and pharmacy refills.   Was I nervous/scared?  Absolutely (and still am every time I leave my house, to be honest).  But I was also reassured that ALL drs. and clinic staff have exercised the utmost caution/most careful protocols (PPE, demanding social distancing/temperatures/sanitizers etc. for all patients).   And most of the docs/nurses/staff in my clinics have now received a CV shot.   

 

 

 

 

[Kate333]

On 1/23/2021 at 6:04 AM, charks said:

Sorry.

Forgot to include link to research connecting leaky gut and Covud 19

 https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201118/Severe-COVID-19-complications-linked-to-gut-barrier-breakdown.aspx

 

Just wanted to point out this article language:

"*Important Notice

medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information."

IMO, this kind of caveat should be placed in the first paragraph of these preliminary reports.  Far too many people freak out when reading these kinds of preliminary reports/theories long before they are even peer-reviewed or proven (or disproved) in subsequent studies.