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ricardo29

Liver And Gallbladder Stones

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Hi,

I've recently (6 mo's ago) was diagnosed with celiac disease and it felt like solving my life's riddle. I have been suffering from severe health problems for the last 9 years and there seemed to be no hope in site. I had worked with different nutritionists, doctors, natural healers and nothing brought me progress. Finally as soon as I got off of gluten and dairy my health is slowly but consistently getting better. I believe however that I have liver and gallbladder stones. One of the symptoms from this disease is that i had all kind of problems with my liver. The more time goes by the less problems I have but i believe there is a mass load of stones in them (liver and gallbladder). I have read that this is common for celiacs. I did cleanses before and huge amounts of stones would come out, only to come back bcs i continued eating all the stuff that was creating it. I want to know if there is anybody on this site that has had a similar experience with gallstones?

ricardo

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Gallstones tend to be a result of too much fat in the diet combined with other factors. I personally would not chance a cleanse, too many of us have been made very ill by them. If you are still in pain from what you think may be stones they are not hard for a doctor to find with an ultrasound and there are safe ways to get them broken up and out of the body if needed. In general the OTC cleanses tend to much to harsh for us and in addition may have ingredients hidden that we can not tolerate. It is your call but I would not do one.

One last caution about cleanses, if you do have a large stone in one of those organs a cleanse will cause the organ to contract forcefully to try and remove the stone, should that stone be too large to pass you could be in real trouble. Please see your doctor first.


Courage does not always roar, sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying

"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)

Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002

Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis

All bold resoved or went into remission in time with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002

 Gene Test Aug 2007

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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My daughter was on a medication to break up stones (prescribed by the DR.) she ended up passing one into the common bile duct and it got stuck. She ended up in the hospital for 9 days and having her gallbladder removed. She had an infection in her liver, gallbladder and pancreas. I wouldn't recommend it at all. It can be serious enough to kill you.

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Gallstones tend to be a result of too much fat in the diet combined with other factors. I personally would not chance a cleanse, too many of us have been made very ill by them. If you are still in pain from what you think may be stones they are not hard for a doctor to find with an ultrasound and there are safe ways to get them broken up and out of the body if needed. In general the OTC cleanses tend to much to harsh for us and in addition may have ingredients hidden that we can not tolerate. It is your call but I would not do one.

One last caution about cleanses, if you do have a large stone in one of those organs a cleanse will cause the organ to contract forcefully to try and remove the stone, should that stone be too large to pass you could be in real trouble. Please see your doctor first.

Totally agree (I had gallbladder removed 8/07) and I add: if you pass a stone or more than one, it could scar your bile duct tube which is a severe problem in that you'll need special surgery --- not all general surgeons have done this type of surgery. A bile duct tube is very delicate. My reading of this topic last year led me to discover that the surgeons who do this tube surgery are in the major cities as you want someone who has done it many times before. It's difficult to reconstruct these tubes; it's not like when they do a bypass and use a vein to replace another vein - there's nothing else in your body that they can use for these tubes.

So please do not do a cleanse without the guidance of a doctor; and again there are prescriptions which breakdown stones, provided the stones are of a certain nature. Some stones do not respond to those medications anyway and then the best solution is to get the gallbladder removed anyway. Also, you could have gallbladder polyps which is another bad scenario.....polpys can be cancerous and you'd want your gallbladder out asap if you had polyps.

So get a proper diagnosis from a gastro doctor and get sound medical advice and don't follow advice from places who just want to sell their product.

By the way, the surgery was quick and painless (same day) and I was out of work for about 2 weeks (I had other health issues that got in the way).

Another by the way, a diseased gallbladder can cause diarrhea .....


Husband has Celiac Disease and

Husband misdiagnosed for 27 yrs -

The misdiagnosis was: IBS or colitis

Mis-diagnosed from 1977 to 2003 by various gastros including one of the largest,

most prestigious medical groups in northern NJ which constantly advertises themselves as

being the "best." This GI told him it was "all in his head."

Serious Depressive state ensued

Finally Diagnosed with celiac disease in 2003

Other food sensitivities: almost all fruits, vegetables, spices, eggs, nuts, yeast, fried foods, roughage, soy.

Needs to gain back at least 25 lbs. of the 40 lbs pounds he lost - lost a great amout of body fat and muscle

Developed neuropathy in 2005

Now has lymphadema 2006It is my opinion that his subsequent disorders could have been avoided had he been diagnosed sooner by any of the dozen or so doctors he saw between 1977 to 2003

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I read that gallstones were not caused by eating fat but just the fake fats. I can't remember exactly how it works. I have a fatty liver so I did some research on it, but it's been awhile. But I stopped eating all trans fats after that. I have already have my gallbladder removed.

I did do some liver cleanses but my bowels were not working at the time so I had to stop. (Probably because of the gluten) I managed one good cleanse but now I believe in gentle cleanses. I have the book, "Natural Therapy for your Liver" by Christopher Hobbs and he has a daily liver cleanse where you just drink 1 cup of citrus juice with 1 tbs olive oil, and follow it with some herbal tea and you are cleansing your liver daily. You do it for 10 days and it's easy. He also has the hard liver cleanse in there and also a gallbladder cleanse. I just do the easy one and take milk thistle.

I'm gonna start doing these again to see if it helps with my weight problems.


Osteoporosis, and sacroiliac arthritis diagnosed 32 yrs of age.  Chronic low wbc, Severe constipation, Migraines, severe GERD, multiple miscarriages, Sjrogen's disease, positive ANA, thyroid nodules (hyperthryoid), fatty liver disease with elevated enzymes, low vitamin D, low protein, IBS, SIBO, Discoid lupus, mulitple food allergies and massive hair loss.  I left my career because I was too sick to keep working, and it was devastating because I couldn't apply for disability without a diagnosis.  My daughter was a preemie and she has Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) and had a positive ANA and Rheumatoid Factor at 16 and now has been dx'd with Hashimoto's.

 

Allergic to:  corn, rice, beans, tomatoes, dairy.  Not diagnosed as celiac.

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