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Manufactured In A Facility That Also Processes Wheat


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strawberrygm Enthusiast

Is it an absolute no-no for a celiac person to have foods that are safe themselves with the exception of being processed in a facility.....?

I just wonder how careful and clean the facility itself is and how high the chances for cc are? I mean, I know its better to be safe than sorry. But we also live in an age where you have to put warnings on coffee that it is hot.


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If your household isn't completely gluten free your house is also "facility that processes wheat". ;) Of course in your own home it's easier control how clean it is, with manufacturers you can only hope.

I try to follow sound common sense, if the same manufacturer makes a product that also only has traces of gluten, then the chance of cross contamination is very small. But for a product like corn starch, if the same company also sells wheat flour, the chance of cross contamination seems higher to me, because flour is very difficult to clean 100%. Or if things are packaged in the same facility, but on separate lines, chances are smaller, same lines, higher. See what I mean?

If I have an alternative that is safer I choose that. But sometimes companies don't put that warning on a package, so a product without the warning might actually be less safe than a product with the warning.

In the end, you can only do your best, and keep an eye on symptoms. If your child seems healthy and happy and grows well, I think chances are you're doing enough. :)

Pauliina

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Also, keep in mind that any such label is completely voluntary. Just because you don't see such a statement does not mean that the facility/equipment does not handle wheat.

Some companies have a policy that they will always disclose such information, but many don't.

Now, if you see two products from the same manufacturer, and one says this and the other does not, then you might draw a conclusion about the product without the statement. But unless you contact the manufacturer to verify your conclusion, that is all that it is: a logical conclusion.

Perhaps one day this sort of label will be required by law. But that day isn't coming any time soon. :(

kbtoyssni Contributor

This one's a tough call. I tend not to eat food that's manufactured on the same equipment as wheat products. If it's just the same facility, though, I go by my own personal experience and that of other on this board. Some brands seem to have more problems than others.

mysecretcurse Contributor
This one's a tough call. I tend not to eat food that's manufactured on the same equipment as wheat products. If it's just the same facility, though, I go by my own personal experience and that of other on this board. Some brands seem to have more problems than others.

If I see that on the label I usually don't buy it.

I never thought it was a big deal but I see how workers are. I work in a pizza place where we make our own dough, cheese, etc. I watch them every day make a big batch of dough then a big batch of cheese in the same machine without washing it. There is LOTS of dough in our cheese. I figure its the same way in other places. Workers don't care, most of them don't even know about celiac.

And I STILL have issues trying to explain to people at work why I cant eat the cheese.

Genie Walker Newbie

After gotten sick a couple of times, if I see that statement on a label I will not buy it.

SchnauzerMom Rookie

I have not had any problems with products that say that.


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