Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Can Medications Cause False Negatives?


sick-of-being-sick

Recommended Posts

sick-of-being-sick Newbie

I'm new here; I have lots of autoimmune diseases, including autoimmune hepatitis. I'm taking azathioprine and prednisone for the AIH. I have gastrointestinal problems (diarrhea mostly) and have been losing weight for the last 6 months.

My doctor recently tested me for celiac disease including DNA typing. All of the blood tests were negative except that I do have a celiac gene (DQ8). Now she wants to do a biopsy, but I don't know if it's worth it.

Has anyone here been tested for celiac disease while taking drugs to suppress the immune system? Has anyone had an intestinal biopsy done while taking meds like prednisone? Do prednisone or azathioprine cause false negatives in tests for celiac disease?

rissa


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jestgar Rising Star

Rissa, I hope you get an answer from someone with experience, but it makes sense that your antibodies could be suppressed by steroids. Your intestine, however, would not look better. This doesn't mean that your tests would be positive, it just means they won't be negative because of the prednisone.

happygirl Collaborator

Welcome to the board, Rissa.

Given your symptoms, your positive genetic test, and your other health concerns, an endoscopy may be of benefit. Not only to look for Celiac - but to look for other issues.

I can't say for certain that these meds will or won't affect it - but I will say that in my experience and reading of Celiac literature, I have never seen it mentioned when discussing the biopsy.

I would talk to your doctor about it, also.

sick-of-being-sick Newbie
Rissa, I hope you get an answer from someone with experience, but it makes sense that your antibodies could be suppressed by steroids. Your intestine, however, would not look better. This doesn't mean that your tests would be positive, it just means they won't be negative because of the prednisone.

Thanks for the reply, Jestgar. I have been worried about the biopsy results being affected by the prednisone. I just don't want to go through that if there will be nothing to see. So maybe I've been looking for some excuse to cancel the procedure and go gluten-free right away to see if it makes me feel better. As it is, the doctor wants me to stay on gluten for a few more weeks until after the biopsy.

Oh well....I suppose I can wait a little longer,

rissa

Jestgar Rising Star
Oh well....I suppose I can wait a little longer,

If it's already set up, and you can wait it out, you may as well wait. At least it'll be one more thing you know about yourself.

sick-of-being-sick Newbie
Welcome to the board, Rissa.

Given your symptoms, your positive genetic test, and your other health concerns, an endoscopy may be of benefit. Not only to look for Celiac - but to look for other issues.

I can't say for certain that these meds will or won't affect it - but I will say that in my experience and reading of Celiac literature, I have never seen it mentioned.

I would talk to your doctor about it, also.

Thank for the welcome and helpful reply!

I did mention my concerns to my doctor but she insists that she wants to do a biopsy regardless of my medications. Hopefully, if I really do have celiac disease, there will be some evidence to be found. Not that I'm looking for one more diagnosis. I think that I have more than enough autoimmune diseases already! :)

rissa

happygirl Collaborator

To maximize the endoscopy, talk to your doctor beforehand and make sure they are taking a sufficient amount of samples (about 4-6), as Celiac can be a patchy disease. (references: Open Original Shared Link and Open Original Shared Link

Again, I'm not sure if the meds you are on would affect it. You may want to ask your doctor about the use of steriods to treat refractory celiac sprue (some Celiac patients' intestines don't respond to the diet, and it is called refractory celiac). That's the only reference I can recall re: celiac and steriods, so I don't know how it would affect a potential Celiac on a gluten containing diet.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mslee Apprentice
I'm new here; I have lots of autoimmune diseases, including autoimmune hepatitis. I'm taking azathioprine and prednisone for the AIH. I have gastrointestinal problems (diarrhea mostly) and have been losing weight for the last 6 months.

My doctor recently tested me for celiac disease including DNA typing. All of the blood tests were negative except that I do have a celiac gene (DQ8). Now she wants to do a biopsy, but I don't know if it's worth it.

Has anyone here been tested for celiac disease while taking drugs to suppress the immune system? Has anyone had an intestinal biopsy done while taking meds like prednisone? Do prednisone or azathioprine cause false negatives in tests for celiac disease?

rissa

Hey There,

Welcome!

I am fairly new here too, I got an definite dx of Celiac in July...See below I have other immune issues too.

I am not sure about the effects of the meds your on, on the celiac test but I can tell you the results from going gluten free are AMAZING... I feel more human than I have my whole life, more energy, strength, and mind clarity. I am so happy for the Dx! If they had not found it things could have gotten really bad, my condition was headed downhill fast.

Besides the celiac the colonoscopy/endoscopy found colitis. I would suggest having it done, it's not much fun but catching something serious early is worth it.

I was raised in Southern California, and am waiting up a follow apt for a liver biopsy for suspected autoimmune hepatitis. If you ever have any questions or want to talk feel free to message me.

Hang in there! ... this diet may be very beneficial for you!

~A.Lee

nora-n Rookie

Prednisone will cause villie to grow back even while eating gluten, and it says so in anarticle here on celiac.com. There was a discussion last week at the delphi forum, and Bobbie never got a defiine diagnosis because she was on prednisone. She is one of the moderators there.

Here in Europe we always get the endoscopy done, and it is to rule out oterh severe things, and to have something to compare with later.

All the things you mention, are connected to celiac oand will probably get better on a gluten-freee diet.

nora

JNBunnie1 Community Regular
Prednisone will cause villie to grow back even while eating gluten, and it says so in anarticle here on celiac.com. There was a discussion last week at the delphi forum, and Bobbie never got a defiine diagnosis because she was on prednisone. She is one of the moderators there.

Here in Europe we always get the endoscopy done, and it is to rule out oterh severe things, and to have something to compare with later.

All the things you mention, are connected to celiac oand will probably get better on a gluten-freee diet.

nora

Could you post a link to the article? Thanks.

Jestgar Rising Star

The research it cites is 25 years old. I only found one recent article which combined prednisone with an additional drug to treat refractory sprue. Some healing of the villi was seen, but the people were on a gluten-free diet.

sick-of-being-sick Newbie
Hey There,

Welcome!

I am fairly new here too, I got an definite dx of Celiac in July...See below I have other immune issues too.

I am not sure about the effects of the meds your on, on the celiac test but I can tell you the results from going gluten free are AMAZING... I feel more human than I have my whole life, more energy, strength, and mind clarity. I am so happy for the Dx! If they had not found it things could have gotten really bad, my condition was headed downhill fast.

Besides the celiac the colonoscopy/endoscopy found colitis. I would suggest having it done, it's not much fun but catching something serious early is worth it.

I was raised in Southern California, and am waiting up a follow apt for a liver biopsy for suspected autoimmune hepatitis. If you ever have any questions or want to talk feel free to message me.

Hang in there! ... this diet may be very beneficial for you!

~A.Lee

Thanks!

I'm glad that the gluten-free diet is making such a difference for you. That's the kind of story that gives me some hope for myself!

My doctor did mention microscopic colitis as one of the things she'd be looking for during the procedures. I'm planning to go ahead and get them done....whatever the outcome. Also, good luck with your biopsy results! My liver damage from AIH is at stage 2, which is still reversible.

Take care,

rissa

sick-of-being-sick Newbie
The research it cites is 25 years old. I only found one recent article which combined prednisone with an additional drug to treat refractory sprue. Some healing of the villi was seen, but the people were on a gluten-free diet.

Thanks Nora and Jestgar.....I was going to ask for the reference but JNBunnie1 beat me to it. :)

Is the original citation about prednisone causing villi to regenerate in that book edited by Davison, Humphrey, Liversedge et al. Multiple Sclerosis Research, Elsevier Scientific Publishing New York, 1975?

rissa

sick-of-being-sick Newbie
To maximize the endoscopy, talk to your doctor beforehand and make sure they are taking a sufficient amount of samples (about 4-6), as Celiac can be a patchy disease. (references: Open Original Shared Link and Open Original Shared Link

Again, I'm not sure if the meds you are on would affect it. You may want to ask your doctor about the use of steriods to treat refractory celiac sprue (some Celiac patients' intestines don't respond to the diet, and it is called refractory celiac). That's the only reference I can recall re: celiac and steriods, so I don't know how it would affect a potential Celiac on a gluten containing diet.

Thanks, happygirl!

I knew I forgot to ask the doctor about something important, like how many different spots she typically biopsies.

So many details to remember....and my brain is not functioning well these days.

rissa

nora-n Rookie

Here is the article that mentions that prednisone will cause the villi ti grow back:

https://www.celiac.com/articles/124/1/Multi...ease/Page1.html look towards the end. Don Wiss has written about celiac for years. He has some celiac websites too, and is on some forums.

And, Bobbie at the delphi forum had that happen to her, just go over and ask her. I think I remember she is a M.D. , and a moderator there.

hawaiimama Apprentice

Ok, now I'm curious, what about low dose steriods like cortef?

Jestgar Rising Star

Open Original Shared Link

no dose listed in abstract.

Open Original Shared Link

Also used in treatment of refractory sprue. No comment on the villi (or dosage).

Not much info. I don't think it's thought to heal the villi, only to decrease the inflammation.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

YES!

I had been on prednisone AND gluten-free when bloodwork and a skin biopsy (looking for DH) were taken. The biopsy was negative, and MOST of the bloodwork was also negative, but my IgG was through the roof. That, combined with how much better I felt gluten-free (I, too, had several autoimmune issues), was enough to convince me not to touch gluten ever again!

mslee Apprentice
Thanks!

I'm glad that the gluten-free diet is making such a difference for you. That's the kind of story that gives me some hope for myself!

My doctor did mention microscopic colitis as one of the things she'd be looking for during the procedures. I'm planning to go ahead and get them done....whatever the outcome. Also, good luck with your biopsy results! My liver damage from AIH is at stage 2, which is still reversible.

Take care,

rissa

Thanks!

One thing to keep in mind this trial and error period can be very tricky, I will feel sooo good for a couple days and then eat something with some mystery ingredient in it that makes me sick for a day or 2. Keeping a diet diary is very helpful. I saw an allergist Tues and have testing tomorrow, probably wont find anything because these are probably intolerances rather than allergies but I figured it was worth a try.

Eating very simple foods is your best bet...I have always been an adventurous eater so I am having a hard time sticking to bland and boring.... But would not touch gluten with a 10 ft pole!!!

My GI said it was odd I had both microscopic colitis and ulcerative colitis, my liver has "minimal" inflammation so I hope it will heal being off gluten. Find out Fri. with my follow up apt.

This info about prednisone is very interesting! the stuff still scares me!

Good Luck!!!

Hang in there!!!

susanm Apprentice

I have Addison's disease, so I take hydrocortisone. I asked my doctor if that would affect the biopsy. He told me that in Addison's, I only take enough to live, so it shouldn't affect it (although I'm not so sure about that). Hearing that, it makes me think that taking more steroid would affect the biopsy. I had the endoscopy Monday, and I'm waiting for the results.

  • 4 weeks later...
russtay1 Rookie

I have Addison's Disease and have long suspected a gluten allergy. All my celiac tests were negative.

This article (see below) interests me. It is very possible that even the replacement doses of steroids we take for adrenal insufficiency could cause false negatives in celiac testing.

I worry more about WHY I have so many autoimmune disorders. I have four. I suspect a gluten or other food allergy as the cause.

I think the best thing to do, if test results are negative, is avoid gluten and see how you feel.

Anne

Open Original Shared Link

The last few paragraphs are the most interesting. I'll paste them here:

"There have been reports in the literature of an unmasking of coeliac disease in patients discontinuing chronic steroid therapy and steroids have a well-recognized therapeutic role in the management of refractory coeliac disease. In a treated Addison

nora-n Rookie

wow interesting.

I was on suppplemental steriods before testing too.

I do not have a diagnosis for partial adrenal insufficiency but I have had to get hycrocoertisone or prednisolone off the net.

Interestingly, the need for supplementing has almost vanished after going gluten-free. I just need them sometimes, or for a period.

I have hashimotos too, and some endometriosis (autoimmune too) and it seems like there is some inflammation of some sort in the brain since TSH and ft3 gets so low.

I have read several other abstracts and articles on adrenals , addison and gluten before. But this one is about villi getting normal on just supplemental doses.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      1

      Skin issues

    2. - Parkrunner commented on Scott Adams's article in Spring 2025 Issue
      1

      How Celiac Disease Impacts Bone Health: What You Need to Know

    3. - trents replied to Ben Cohen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      17

      How much gluten do I need to eat prior to testing?

    4. - Ben Cohen replied to Ben Cohen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      17

      How much gluten do I need to eat prior to testing?

    5. - Jmartes71 posted a topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      1

      Skin issues

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,043
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    nancydrewandtheceliacclue
    Newest Member
    nancydrewandtheceliacclue
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, Been here.  It's okay.  You're not imagining things, but there's no bugs or parasites in your skin.  The cats are not infecting you with anything.  That's a hyperkeratotic plug that builds up in a hair follicle which does go deep and is attached by the hair sheath that looks stringy.  It's a type of thing seen commonly in Dermatitis Herpetiformis.   Niacin B 3, in the form Nicotinic Acid (active form that causes flushing) or in the form Niacinamide will help immensely with clearing this up.  Take 100 mg three times a day, and Tryptophan (another form of Niacin) to help you sleep and heal your intestines at night.   Kidney stones can result when the body doesn't have sufficient Thiamine B 1.   Are you taking a B Complex supplement?  The eight B vitamins are water soluble.  Many people with Celiac Disease benefit by taking a B Complex to boost absorption.   The cloves are great because they can reduce inflammation, but your body needs the Bs and extra Niacinamide as well.  Benfotiamine, a form of Thiamine B 1, is also needed in higher doses to heal the intestines.  If you get your intestines calmed down, your skin will calm down, too.  Benfotiamine has anticancer potential in higher doses. Rapid resolution of delusional parasitosis in pellagra with niacin augmentation therapy https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19061687/ Tryptophan metabolism: From physiological functions to key roles and therapeutic targets in cancer (Review) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12139378/ Thiamine and benfotiamine: Focus on their therapeutic potential https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10682628/
    • trents
      Thanks for the update, Ben. If you will be having an endoscopy/biopsy to confirm the results of the blood testing - and this would be the normal protocol - you will still need to continue the gluten challenge until that is done.
    • Ben Cohen
      Update on how things went. To meet my daily quantity of gluten I had a measured amount of gluten flour with my breakfast and 2 slices of bread later in the day. I still had discomfort but it wasn't debilitating. My blood tests results came back this week and they were positive so I've been referred to a specialist.
    • Jmartes71
      Hello, Ive been to the dermatologist ( two different ones) and now made appointment, soonest is NOVEMBER. Ive been dealing  with skin issues for a while and its getting  worse because nothing has worked.I feel the bumps, gently squeeze and a itty bitty hard thing is coming out.I took a picture and did close up and in the MANY pictures ive taken this past few days, there's a " string" type thing at the end. I FEEL IT COMING OUT.... At first few pic it looks like hair, its not.Its  part of what ever is in my skin...I did call my Dr yesterday and will be seeing him this Monday. What test should I request to see what the hell is causing my skin to have?I don't know what to call it.I do sleep with my indoor cats.I also have an inheritance cat two years ago who took to sleeping with me as well.I also was on topiramate but had to stop because of speech issues, memory and it can affect those with  kidney stones. I did suffer kidney stones in past.So i had to completely stop.Since freaking out of what i KNOW what I saw, i took matters in my own hands and decided to eat several whole cloves a day.Since doing so, though im not to eat garlic.My skin is actually clearing up sloooooooooowly.but then again I just started 4 days ago and already notice a difference. My husband thinks im seeing things.I know what I see and feel. what test is there to ask doctor about what is in my skin? Husband thinks im seeing things, because of the meningioma and stopping meds.i know what i saw.
    • trents
      Vitamin A is important for vision health. But be careful in supplementing it as it can lead to toxicity. Research it and consult with your medical professional. I do not have a definite answer to your original question but I was pursuing the possible cause of nutritional deficiency. But your visual deterioration could be unrelated to your celiac disease so don't rule that out.
×
×
  • Create New...