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jorge0464

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Hi guys,

Thanks for your help and support.

During 2008, I took a long antibiotic round that triggered many intestinal problems to me. Since that, I have been battling to recover my health without success. I believe the things came in this way: antibiotics, a fungal intestinal overgrowth caused by the antibiotics, intestinal villi damage caused by gluten and the hyphae form of candida. The fact is I have severe malabsorption, muscle tics, depression, undigested food in my stool, large amount of feces, intestinal cramps, loud stomach and intestinal noise, flatulence, fatigue, etc.

What really concern me is the fungal overgrowth in the gut. I have read in this and other Celiac forum about many people diagnosed with Celiac who don't recover in spite of a 100% gluten free diet. Those people have been diagnosed late in their life after many medical tests. I believe candida is responsible for triggering Celiac and the reason because many people don't recover, at least, it is what is happening to me now.

I got a diagnose from Enterolab because my blood work and biopsy were negative. After that, I have followed a 100% gluten free diet where I prepare my food, watch everything, and take care of any possible CC. In spite of this, my malabsorption don't get better. Well, I have found an article that worry me a lot. The mycelial form of candida albicans has a protein sequence very similar or identical to gliadin. It means, if you have taken antibiotics to the point where candida could mutate to its hyphae form, you get the trigger to develop Celiac. But this is not all, if you follow a gluten free diet but don't eliminate the mycelial candidiasis, the antibody and villi damage won't stop. It looks like candida acts as gluten, and gluten as candida. It scare me since candida can not eliminated easy. In fact, it is easier going in a gluten free diet than to eradicate candida.

Thanks for any support and experience. Here is the article,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12826451

Jorge.

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I totally agree about the gut flora. Have you looked into GAPS? It is all about creating a good gut flora balance and healing damage in the gut.

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Look up C-Diff. The antibiotics kill off the good and bad bacteria in your system. When they come back the bad take over and cause many problems. A friend of mine lost her mother to undiognosed (found out too late) C-diff. My mom had this after a round of antibiotics due to oral surgery. She is a transplant patient and had a rough recovery.

Wenmin

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You can take antifungals to get rid of candida. An MD can prescribe these.

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I have read that people take coconut for candida also. It has something called caprylic acid in it that is supposed to kill off candida.

Another you should consider is that you could have other food intolerances that are irritating you gut. Dairy, soy, egg, corn, nightshades, nut, etc etc can all cause gut problems for people sensitive to them. Most people don't have all those intolerances, but it is possible to have one or more.

As long as your gut is irritated it won't heal properly.

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Thanks for your answers.

What I notice is if this medical article is right, it will change the vision of Celiac totally. They are trying to say that candida is who triggers the problem. I don't know it for sure but in my case, I took antibiotics, candida came after them, and later gluten intolerance or Celiac. So, there is some true in this research. Candida in the gut is something that is happening more and more because the antibiotic use. It is documented before 1955. Still, the antibiotics don't have any warning about it.

Jorge.

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Thanks for your answers.

What I notice is if this medical article is right, it will change the vision of Celiac totally. They are trying to say that candida is who triggers the problem. I don't know it for sure but in my case, I took antibiotics, candida came after them, and later gluten intolerance or Celiac. So, there is some true in this research. Candida in the gut is something that is happening more and more because the antibiotic use. It is documented before 1955. Still, the antibiotics don't have any warning about it.

Jorge.

Celiac disease requires a trigger. Perhaps for some the trigger is candida or the infection that the person was given the antibiotics for. In women childbirth is a frequent trigger. A trigger can be either an illness, severe injury or even severe stress. So the cause of celiac is something that can be quite varied.

It is a good idea when taking antibiotics to repopulate the gut with good bacteria from the first day they are taken. Some use probiotics in pill form, some use yogurt with live cultures and some use fermented veggies like saurkraut.

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