Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com!
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Looking for Advice


rfitzgibby

Recommended Posts

rfitzgibby Newbie

Hi All:)

I just joined this forum, and you are the group of people who have the knowledge and first hand experience I need to tap into. MY STORY: I landed in the hospital several years ago with what they diagnosed as gastritis. After being so sick, I vowed to eat healthy and focused on fruits and vegetables. This led me to the realization that I got sick whenever I ate anything that had gluten in it. I was in denial for years, but by eliminating and then reintroducing gluten, I have stumbled upon the fact that I can't have the foods I used to love so much.

I stick to a gluten free diet, not knowing if I am gluten intolerant or celiac. My DNA test indicates I have a "slightly "increased risk for developing celiac,  Question: Is there a way to determine if I actually have celiac disease (since I have been gluten free for years)? I am having a bad episode as I write this- seems to happen whenever I eat out (even if they say it is gluten free). I owe it to my daughters to find out for sure.

Thanks for reading...I appreciate it!

Renee

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GFinDC Veteran

Hi,

There are 2 main forms of celiac testing.  The blood tests check for antibodies in the bloodstream.  The endoscopy checks for damage in the small intestine that is typical of celiac disease.  Both of these tests require the person to have been eating gluten long enough for either the antibodies to show up in the bloodstream or damage to show up in the gut.  For the endoscopy that is usually 2 to 4 weeks but for the blood antibodies it is 12 weeks.  This period of eating gluten daily to prepare for testing is called a gluten challenge.

The gene test is the only one that doesn't require you to be eating gluten at all.  But the gene test doesn't confirm you have celiac, only that you could develop celiac.

We always encourage people to get tested before going gluten-free.  That is because it is faster than doing a gluten challenge, and also doing a gluten challenge can be very unpleasant after being gluten-free.

Your daughters should be tested via blood antibodies every few years or sooner if they develop symptoms.

One other test you could consider is a measurement of your vitamin and mineral levels.  Your daughters could be tested for that also.  Since celiac disease can cause malabsorption it is somewhat common for sufferers to have vitamin and/or mineral deficiencies.  Vitamin D and the B vitamins are some of the frequent problems. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Awol cast iron stomach Experienced

I had to do the challenge since I had gone gluten free before. Long story and 20 plus years misdiagnosed.

At this time I don't think researchers have come up with a method other than the challenge .

Even though I was gluten-free before the challenge I lived in a gluten home and kept food separate etc. In the end my DH and ataxia especially in addition to my other symptoms require us to be a completely gluten-free household. I realize now I was doing gluten-free wrong . I also didn't know for sure so I never joined this forum .  I didn't officially join the forums here where I learned the proper and safe way to live life with this illness until I was seen by a team willing to test me for Celiac.

A challenge was not easy. As gluten-free in DC says I was diagnosed vitamin D deficient 8 years before my diagnosis. celiac /DH was not what my Drs over the years thought of . My general labs testing didn't show any autoimmune issues.  My symptoms were addressed separately and I am not even certain they looked at past records to connect the dots.

Our home is completely gluten-free, I do not eat out.  I was told by one Dr, I can not even eat in the lunchroom at work as gluten is too prevalent. The volume of people who eat in there for 3 lunch shifts generates a lot of cc potential.  I got cc 3 times in 5 months of starting the job.  ( even with my vigilance - I kept my lunch separate place used a placemat etc. ) 

So there is much to learn about the gluten-free life that as of now you may not realize. You may not even know the infinite details that we address in daily life.

Welcome and Good luck on your journey 

 

Edit infinite ? autocorrect inncorrect

Edited by Awol cast iron stomach
Autocorrect incorrect
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Debra smallwood Newbie

I found out through the aip diet and knowing I have several vitamin deficiencies that I have celiac disease I am scared to be tested because I get such a bad reaction if I eat something even with traces of gluten in it I also can't tolerate dairy .. are tall saying that by having bread in the house I can be getting exposed. My neropathy is not going away and I have still have brain fog and fatigue sometimes I know it's off topic I just don't know where to go to ask please and thank u 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
GFinDC Veteran

Hi Debra,

You could be exposed if the other people in your house are careless, or if you are careless yourself.  Things like sharing the same butter or peanut butter or mayo can be a problem.  I live with gluten eaters myself and have to be careful about things like that.  I have a small dorm refrig I keep some food in so I don't have to worry about it.  Things as simple as having separate silverware in a jar or something and rinsing your plates and dishes before using them help.  Also I have my own toaster so that's not a cc problem.

Nerve issues are not something that heal quickly though.  So it's good to be careful and make sure you get enough B vitamins.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
helen redden Newbie

can i use the same silverware and can my dishes be washed with other persons dishes and dishcloth

Link to comment
Share on other sites
cyclinglady Grand Master
17 hours ago, helen redden said:

can i use the same silverware and can my dishes be washed with other persons dishes and dishcloth

You can if washed in a dishwasher.  However, if you are hand washing, then I would advise washing items separately and use a different dishcloth or sponge.   

Here is more information about cross contamination for avoiding gluten: 

https://www.beyondceliac.org/gluten-free-diet/cross-contact/

Edited by cyclinglady
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      121,090
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Nicole K
    Newest Member
    Nicole K
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Posterboy
      Nacina, Knitty Kitty has given you good advice. But I would say/add find a Fat Soluble B-1 like Benfotiamine for best results.  The kind found in most Multivitamins have a very low absorption rate. This article shows how taking a Fat Soluble B-1 can effectively help absorption by 6x to7x times. https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/thiamine-deficiency-and-diabetic-polyneuropathy quoting from the article.... "The group ingesting benfotiamine had maximum plasma thiamine levels that were 6.7 times higher than the group ingesting thiamine mononitrate.32" Also, frequency is much more important than amount when it comes to B-Vitamin. These are best taken with meals because they provide the fat for better absorption. You will know your B-Vitamin is working properly when your urine becomes bright yellow all the time. This may take two or three months to achieve this.......maybe even longer depending on how low he/you are. The Yellow color is from excess Riboflavin bypassing the Kidneys....... Don't stop them until when 2x a day with meals they start producing a bright yellow urine with in 2 or 3 hours after the ingesting the B-Complex...... You will be able to see the color of your urine change as the hours go by and bounce back up after you take them in the evening. When this happens quickly......you are now bypassing all the Riboflavin that is in the supplement. The body won't absorb more than it needs! This can be taken as a "proxy" for your other B-Vitamin levels (if taken a B-Complex) ...... at least at a quick and dirty level......this will only be so for the B-1 Thiamine levels if you are taking the Fat Soluble forms with the Magnesium as Knitty Kitty mentioned. Magnesium is a Co-Factor is a Co-factor for both Thiamine and Vitamin D and your sons levels won't improve unless he also takes Magnesium with his Thiamine and B-Complex. You will notice his energy levels really pick up.  His sleeping will improve and his muscle cramps will get better from the Magnesium! Here is nice blog post that can help you Thiamine and it's many benefits. I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice God speed on your son's continued journey I used to be him. There is hope! 2 Tim 2:7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included. Posterboy by the grace of God,  
    • trents
      I'll answer your second question first. The single best antibody test for monitoring celiac blood antibody levels is the tTG-IGA and it is very cost effective. For this reason, it is the most popular and often the only test ordered by physicians when checking for celiac disease. There are some people who actually do have celiac disease who will score negatives on this test anyway because of anomalies in their immune system but your wife is not one of them. So for her, the tTG-IGA should be sufficient. It is highly sensitive and highly specific for celiac disease. If your wife gets serious about eating gluten free and stays on a gluten free diet for the duration, she should experience healing in her villous lining, normalization in her antibody numbers and avoid reaching a celiac health crisis tipping point. I am attaching an article that will provide guidance for getting serious about gluten free living. It really is an advantage if all wheat products are taken out of the house and other household members adopt gluten free eating in order to avoid cross contamination and mistakes.  
    • Anmol
      Thanks this is helpful. Couple of follow -ups- that critical point till it stays silent is age dependent or dependent on continuing to eat gluten. In other words if she is on gluten-free diet can she stay on silent celiac disease forever?    what are the most cost effective yet efficient test to track the inflammation/antibodies and see if gluten-free is working . 
    • trents
      Welcome to the community forum, @Anmol! There are a number of blood antibody tests that can be administered when diagnosing celiac disease and it is normal that not all of them will be positive. Three out of four that were run for you were positive. It looks pretty conclusive that you have celiac disease. Many physicians will only run the tTG-IGA test so I applaud your doctor for being so thorough. Note, the Immunoglobulin A is not a test for celiac disease per se but a measure of total IGA antibody levels in your blood. If this number is low it can cause false negatives in the individual IGA-based celiac antibody tests. There are many celiacs who are asymptomatic when consuming gluten, at least until damage to the villous lining of the small bowel progresses to a certain critical point. I was one of them. We call them "silent" celiacs".  Unfortunately, being asymptomatic does not equate to no damage being done to the villous lining of the small bowel. No, the fact that your wife is asymptomatic should not be viewed as a license to not practice strict gluten free eating. She is damaging her health by doing so and the continuing high antibody test scores are proof of that. The antibodies are produced by inflammation in the small bowel lining and over time this inflammation destroys the villous lining. Continuing to disregard this will catch up to her. While it may be true that a little gluten does less harm to the villous lining than a lot, why would you even want to tolerate any harm at all to it? Being a "silent" celiac is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing in the sense of being able to endure some cross contamination in social settings without embarrassing repercussions. It's a curse in that it slows down the learning curve of avoiding foods where gluten is not an obvious ingredient, yet still may be doing damage to the villous lining of the small bowel. GliadinX is helpful to many celiacs in avoiding illness from cross contamination when eating out but it is not effective when consuming larger amounts of gluten. It was never intended for that purpose. Eating out is the number one sabotager of gluten free eating. You have no control of how food is prepared and handled in restaurant kitchens.  
    • knitty kitty
      Forgot one... https://www.hormonesmatter.com/eosinophilic-esophagitis-sugar-thiamine-sensitive/
×
×
  • Create New...