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hi, I was just thinking about all the issues in my family and how many people probably have/had celiac disease that was never diagnosed. my grandma on my dad's side died before I was born... I think she only like 50 and she died of stomach cancer and it had also spread to her liver and some other organs as well... she was also addicted to food, my dad said she just loved the texture and taste of it, so she ate not because she was hungry but just because it was so good. I don't know much else about her I think she was norwegian and part spanish and not sure what else.

do you think that could be celiac related??

also my grandpa on my dad's side had lymphoma and died when I was 12 and he used to get painful "rib attacks" he was 81 when he died. he was part french... and not sure what else german maybe?

my grandma on my mom's side has had so many problems. she had skin cancer that had to be removed. she was allergic to her own saliva for awhile and was very limited on what she could eat, I think she had a list of like 5 things she was allowed to eat and had to take drops to help with some of her allergies. she has fibromyalgia and seems to be getting alzheimers. some days she seems to be fine but other days she asks the same question like 20 times in 5 minutes. her antibody levels were sky high same as my grandpa on my dad's side. which they said was why she was allergic to so many things. she's french and irish/english I think. oh and she has osteoporosis too... she broke her foot once just by pulling her sock on too fast!

my grandpa on my mom's side had colon cancer, and he has osteoporosis, I'm not sure what other health issues he has, I know he doesn't eat much bread just because he is very consious of what he eats and his weight. I think he usually has oatmeal for breakfast and soup or something for lunch and I don't really ever recall him eating dinner but at bedtime he has a sliced apple and mixed nuts. anyway he is italian and scottish. oh and I think he had his gallbladder removed.

my mom has numerous issues, she is very moody and irritable and gets depressed alot. she gets bloated to where she looks 9 mo. pregnant (she's already quite overweight anyway) after eating and has a lot of tummy issues. she gets a blistery rash on her feet that itches like crazy and a lot more but I can't remember what they are. I keep trying to convince her she needs to get tested.

my dad has a lot of issues as well, he gets a weird bumpy yellowy looking rash on his legs, his feet are always swollen and he reacts to quite a few foods including eggs and dairy. he is morbidly obese but craves food so badly that he has a hard time dieting. he did really well for quite a while when hiw nd put him on a raw food diet. he had way more energy and a lot of his health issues went away. I think he initially lost 100 pounds but put most of it back on again. he has a lot of dental problems as well

my sister is also quite obese. she has numerous problems which were made worse by an abusive relationship. she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder but her counselor now says although she has some of the same problems as that that it isn't actually that. she also has idiopathic thrombacitopenia (sp?) and dental problems. she gets infections very easily. she tried the gluten-free diet for a week and said she felt much better, then had noodles for lunch and was vomiting within 1/2 an hour then collapsed and was taken to the hospital with a kidney infection (I think... mabe it was liver?) she says she doesn't think that it was a reaction to the gluten that it was from the infection and that everyone came down with the flu a day or 2 later. she's probably right but I still think the gluten-free diet was helping her. she also gets the same "rib attacks" that my grandpa and my cousin and I also get.

sister's kids all have issues too. oldest has aspergers and gets those little bumps that look like permanent goosebumps. 2nd one gets migraines really often and is very irritable to the point of getting violent. shes really spacy too. youngest also gets migraines and has mood swings but not as severely as the middle child

anyone know if DSHS would cover testing???

anyway.... lots of health problems and just general not feeling well runs in my family.. I don't know if maybe we are just a bunch of complainers :rolleyes: or if there really is something serious there. celiac disease maybe?

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Could it all be celiac? Well yeah, it could. But it could also be because in general most people just do not eat very well or take care of themselves. A lot of junky foods, sodas, etc. Taking OTC meds with every little sniffle or pain. Breathing in toxic environmental gunk. Chemical laden water. Bad relationships. Resentment. Trauma. Divorce. No exercise. Smoking. Drinking. Drugs. Constantly damaging their bodies. No, I dont think everything can be blamed on Celiac. But if you have the genes, it def. could play a role.


GLUTEN FREE 4/4/08. LEGUME/SOY FREE 5/15/08. YEAST FREE. CORN FREE. GRAIN FREE. DAIRY FREE. I am eating all meats, eggs, veggies, fruits, squash, nuts and seeds. I just keep getting better every day. :)

Do not let any of the advice given here substitute for good medical care. Let this forum be a catalyst for research. Find support for any post in here before you believe it to be true. Arm yourself with knowledge. Let your doctor be your assistant. Listen to their advice, but follow your own instincts as well. Miracles are within your reach. You can heal!

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I understand your wondering, though. My mom's dad died of esophageal cancer, which was caused by years of untreated heartburn and acid reflux-- which are two symptoms I get right off the bat when I've been glutened. Was his problem actually untreated Celiac? In this case, I think the evidence piles up to a Yes answer. I inherited it from my mom... and I believe she inherited it from her father. Unfortunately, it's too late to find out for sure.


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--Son, Ezra, age 5. Gluten-free 10/13/07. Bipolar tendencies, massively improved on gluten-free diet! He's also allergic to a jillion antibiotics.

--My mother has Celiac Disease, dx'ed by Positive Blood Tests and Biopsy. Diagnosed Sarcoidosis 6/08.

--Myself, Gluten-free since 8/07

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My grandmother died of stomach cancer, my mother of liver cancer, and my dad died of liver cancer also. Both my parents had all the symptoms of celiac disease, and so do most of my siblings (even though most of them deny it).

Undiagnosed celiac disease can cause cancer in any part of the digestive system. And it could also, indirectly cause skin cancer or other cancers, because a vitamin D deficiency caused by malabsorption can cause a lot of different cancers.

So, yes, all those problems you describe could be caused by celiac disease. Including Alzheimer's (advanced brain fog?).

You may want to buy the book 'Good calories, bad calories' by Gary Taube. It might help your dad and sister especially (if they are willing to listen, that is).

The raw food diet will usually only temporarily help people lose weight, but since you can't keep it up for too long if your metabolism is out of whack (which apparently is the case for all obese people) it will all come back.

Because, you see, most obese people not only don't eat more than slim people, but most of them eat LESS, because they don't like being fat! If somebody sees a slim, muscular guy eat and eat and eat enormous amounts of food, people say, "Wow, he can put it away!" but if a fat person would eat HALF that, people will say, "That person eats too much and is a glutton!". And they claim the evidence is, that they are fat.

That is what I have to put up with. On a day when I thought I ate too much a couple of months ago, I actually went on the Internet to find a calorie counter (I've never counted calories before that), to see how many calories I consumed that day. I added everything, and even think I allowed for a little more than I ate, to make sure I didn't miss anything. It all added up to LESS than 900 calories, which is considered a starvation diet!

I have heard that I eat too much for so many years, that I have to make myself eat much of the time, because I don't like being fat. The problem is, that the less I eat the more I gain! But when I explained this to my husband, who is the one always telling me that I am eating too much, he said that I need to cut down more, because evidently 900 calories must still be too much for me then. I could have killed him!

Anyway, the book clearly shows that people with the mebabolic problem that leads to obesity can only lose weight on a very high protein, high fat (saturated), extremely low carbohydrate diet. Meaning, tons of meat (with the fat), cheese (if tolerated), butter, eggs and just a few vegetables. Nothing made with grain or starch at all, and no sugar, either. And basically no fruit.


I am a German citizen, married to a Canadian 29 years, four daughters, one son, seven granddaughters and four grandsons, with one more grandchild on the way in July 2009.

Intolerant to all lectins (including gluten), nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant) and salicylates.

Asperger Syndrome, Tourette Syndrome, Addison's disease (adrenal insufficiency), hypothyroidism, fatigue syndrome, asthma

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I do think it is Celiac disease related. And related to the food we eat and drink.

Compared to Europe a lot of people still smoke,hardly ever go to the doctor, they do not eat out as much as we do, their portions are smaller and their life style is based on a set schedule they eat what they are served, most of their food is made from scratch they walk to the store to buy food every day, I have never have seen anyone jog.

The ribcage pain I think I had that too, Inflamation of the tissue binding the ribs? I wonder if that is the same?

I am sure that Celiac is prvalent in Northern European countries , but I am guessing the onset of the disease is delayed , because they cook from scratch, and we eat Mystery Food.


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There are two types of autoimmune disease:

A. The immune system recognizes "self" tissue as a mimicking invader, and attacks it.

B. The immune system fails to recognize mimicking invaders.

Autoimmune type B is cancer, and it's age related. I believe people progress from type A to type B because the body sees that it's destroying its own tissue.

The immune system raises the threshold criteria for identifying invaders, and that results in the patient getting cancer.

What's the exact mechanism? I have a couple guesses, but that's all.

But the starting point has to be the gliadin protein. Type A autoimmune disease is molecular mimicry. We are constructed of proteins, and the only strong mimicking invader-protein we've found so far is gliadin. We've found it everywhere. We know how it invades, and how it mimics.

Accepting this premise, gliadin has to be the cause of the immune system raising its invader identification criteria ......has to be the enabler of cancer.

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Yes, but how likely is it that "gliadin" is the only protein that can do this. My guess is there are thousands of them. As you are talking of "auto-immune" disease in general.


GLUTEN FREE 4/4/08. LEGUME/SOY FREE 5/15/08. YEAST FREE. CORN FREE. GRAIN FREE. DAIRY FREE. I am eating all meats, eggs, veggies, fruits, squash, nuts and seeds. I just keep getting better every day. :)

Do not let any of the advice given here substitute for good medical care. Let this forum be a catalyst for research. Find support for any post in here before you believe it to be true. Arm yourself with knowledge. Let your doctor be your assistant. Listen to their advice, but follow your own instincts as well. Miracles are within your reach. You can heal!

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Yes, but how likely is it that "gliadin" is the only protein that can do this. My guess is there are thousands of them. As you are talking of "auto-immune" disease in general.

In reality it is lectins, of which gliadin is one (and the worst of the bunch).


I am a German citizen, married to a Canadian 29 years, four daughters, one son, seven granddaughters and four grandsons, with one more grandchild on the way in July 2009.

Intolerant to all lectins (including gluten), nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant) and salicylates.

Asperger Syndrome, Tourette Syndrome, Addison's disease (adrenal insufficiency), hypothyroidism, fatigue syndrome, asthma

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Yes, but how likely is it that "gliadin" is the only protein that can do this. My guess is there are thousands of them. As you are talking of "auto-immune" disease in general.

I can't say you're wrong. Beans make me much sicker, much faster, than wheat. Maybe like the big bear said, it's all lectins. We've just got a lot of genetic research on gliadin.

I lean toward the transition trigger being a lectin because gliadin's zonulin flood and associated gut purges into the bloodstream are documented. I'm guessing the hypoglycemia to type 2 diabetes transition triggers the sick body's raising of the invader recognition criteria. I think candida albicans is associated with that change. And candida surface protein structure is immune-identical to gliadin. For all I know, it's also immune-identical to other lectins.

Why do people without type2 diabetes get cancer? Other than people with cancers directly associated with lectins, I'm not sure they do. Like celiac, type 2 diabetes goes widely undiagnosed.

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this is interesting, i found an old purse from like 1930 in the loft, opened it and inside were the death certificates of all my ancestors on my nans side and turns out her father, his sister and their father all died of intestine or stomach cancers. she was celiac..just made me wonder if thats what caused it for em.

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