Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com!
    eNewsletter
    Donate

High Fat-Low Carb Diet


Marz

Recommended Posts

Marz Enthusiast

Thought some people might find this interesting.

I'm typing this from memory - my stupid internet link is terrible today, and none of the sites are loading. So please do have a look if you're interested in these topics, and correct me if I'm wrong with any statements here :)

There are quite a few proponents of a high-fat, low carb diet. The theory is that saturated fats are only bad for you when combined with a high-sugar/carb diet. Ketosis can be a side-effect of this diet, but only if you go very low-carb as some do.

I can see this diet coming in handy for diabetics, as it promotes a very steady blood sugar level - the pancreas no longer has to work to remove sugar from the blood, the body only needs to work on releasing sugar from fats in a completely seperate process from what I've read. This also promotes weight loss, as now your body is no longer converting sugar into fat and storing it, but actively releasing it from fat stores. Note that this is not the same as starving yourself - you're still eating a good portion of food, and lots of fats, but in the absence of sugar your body is unable to store the fat for future use (If I remember correctly).

It is also not the same as the Atkins diet, and it's certainly not a high-protein/low carb/low fat diet, which would rapidly send you into Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link is one of the blogs I found very informative on this subject. He regularly posts reviews and comments on pubmed articles to do with high fat diets.

He's also very anti-wheat! Apparently there are molecules called lectins in wheat that are insulin mimics. He sites a few studies linking high-wheat diet to increased chance of developing diabetes type 2, Alzheimer's Disease and various other problems.

I tried a high-fat diet about a year ago, and felt a lot better on it. I'm guessing because I switched to whole foods from processed food and bread (meat, fats, butter, eggs, plain salads and veges without sauces). Basically cut out all grains in my diet. I'm not sure why I stopped, I think at the time I was mostly eating at my parents', or my boyfriend's parents' house, and was at the whim of whatever they served up. It's pretty much an all-or-nothing diet, you can't really eat large portions of fat/protein for lunch and then pig out on pasta for supper, because fat + carbs don't mix very nicely in high-fat/high-carb diets.

Comments/thoughts on going this route with gluten-free?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



WheatChef Apprentice

A lot of people who forgo the specialty gluten-like products end up on a low(ish) carb diet. Most of the anti-high fat diets only look at the short term effects of switching from a high carb diet to a high fat diet. This is a shock to the system that is normally observed along with unfavorable changes from various systems in the body. However this change is almost always short lived and all of the systems that get off balance from the change soon (within a month or two) get back in harmony and often times rest at a more favorable level than before the implementation of the high fat diet. The human body is very capable of relying heavily on fats for energy production and even ketosis is no problem once the body has adapted to it (2-4 weeks).

It is kinda odd that there is much controversy over it all considering the body uses carbs only for fuel while the body uses fats for fuel, cell structure, brain cells and hormones. Which of those seems more important?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Marz Enthusiast

Good to know it's a decent diet to go on long term. I think I might go this route because glutenfree breads are not readily available in South Africa, and I'm too lazy to make my own from the gluten free mixes. Though I will add some rice and potatoes to it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Looking for answers Contributor

I've been doing this diet for two years now. I've maintained a great weight and I'm rarely hungry. BTW, for those who worry high fat equals high cholestrol, my doctor says my numbers are text book and that I must have great genes. When I told him it was all the coconuts, avocados, seeds, organic meats I eat, he didn't buy it and said again it was from my great genes. I had to remind him that both my parents have high cholesterol, as does my extended family and my sister, who at 24 was told she was going to need medication. The difference in me and them? My diet!!!

The reality is that this diet works for me, but may not work for all. We're all different. I would advise anyone looking to change diets to check out Dr. Mercola's free nutritional assesment. It will help you determine what your biochemical needs are...this is what I did and what led me to this diet. I acutally paid for it but I think it's free now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
WheatChef Apprentice

Cholesterol is another thing that naturally evens out during a high fat diet (Open Original Shared Link). This is serologically speaking, not dietary speaking though, you don't need to avoid dietary cholesterol.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
missy'smom Collaborator

I find this kind of diet VERY effective in managing diabetes. I can't imagine ever going back to the ADA way. I am quite happy to not have to deal with the rollercoaster, or high blood sugars and many other nightmares if I followed the ADA diet. Low-carb is very compatible with gluten-free. I have "met" some folks online who do not have diabetes but care for family members who have it or have a family history and have committed to a low-carb diet and been on one many years in order to protect themselves from developing it. It works well for them. As for the long-term overall health-Dr. Richard Bernstein is living proof that it is a healthy diet. He has had T1 since his teens and has maintained level, normal, non-diabetic BG for many, many years with a low-carb diet he developed. He has been able to reverse some of the complications that he developed and is in fantastic health-has the test results to prove it. His story is quite an inspiring one.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      121,088
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Aventine
    Newest Member
    Aventine
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Anmol
      Thanks this is helpful. Couple of follow -ups- that critical point till it stays silent is age dependent or dependent on continuing to eat gluten. In other words if she is on gluten-free diet can she stay on silent celiac disease forever?    what are the most cost effective yet efficient test to track the inflammation/antibodies and see if gluten-free is working . 
    • trents
      Welcome to the community forum, @Anmol! There are a number of blood antibody tests that can be administered when diagnosing celiac disease and it is normal that not all of them will be positive. Three out of four that were run for you were positive. It looks pretty conclusive that you have celiac disease. Many physicians will only run the tTG-IGA test so I applaud your doctor for being so thorough. Note, the Immunoglobulin A is not a test for celiac disease per se but a measure of total IGA antibody levels in your blood. If this number is low it can cause false negatives in the individual IGA-based celiac antibody tests. There are many celiacs who are asymptomatic when consuming gluten, at least until damage to the villous lining of the small bowel progresses to a certain critical point. I was one of them. We call them "silent" celiacs".  Unfortunately, being asymptomatic does not equate to no damage being done to the villous lining of the small bowel. No, the fact that your wife is asymptomatic should not be viewed as a license to not practice strict gluten free eating. She is damaging her health by doing so and the continuing high antibody test scores are proof of that. The antibodies are produced by inflammation in the small bowel lining and over time this inflammation destroys the villous lining. Continuing to disregard this will catch up to her. While it may be true that a little gluten does less harm to the villous lining than a lot, why would you even want to tolerate any harm at all to it? Being a "silent" celiac is both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing in the sense of being able to endure some cross contamination in social settings without embarrassing repercussions. It's a curse in that it slows down the learning curve of avoiding foods where gluten is not an obvious ingredient, yet still may be doing damage to the villous lining of the small bowel. GliadinX is helpful to many celiacs in avoiding illness from cross contamination when eating out but it is not effective when consuming larger amounts of gluten. It was never intended for that purpose. Eating out is the number one sabotager of gluten free eating. You have no control of how food is prepared and handled in restaurant kitchens.  
    • knitty kitty
      Forgot one... https://www.hormonesmatter.com/eosinophilic-esophagitis-sugar-thiamine-sensitive/
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum community, @ekelsay! Yes, your tTG-IGA score is strongly positive for celiac disease. There are other antibody tests that can be run when diagnosing celiac disease but the tTG-IGA is the most popular with physicians because it combines good sensitivity with good specificity, and it is a relatively inexpensive test to perform. The onset of celiac disease can happen at any stage of life and the size of the score is not necessarily an indicator of the progress of the disease. It is likely that you you experienced onset well before you became aware of symptoms. It often takes 10 years or more to get a diagnosis of celiac disease after the first appearance of symptoms. In my case, the first indicator was mildly elevated liver enzymes that resulted in a rejection of my blood donation by the Red Cross at age 37. There was no GI discomfort at that point, at least none that I noticed. Over time, other lab values began to get out of norm, including decreased iron levels. My PCP was at a complete loss to explain any of this. I finally scheduled an appointment with a GI doc because the liver enzymes concerned me and he tested me right away for celiac disease. I was positive and within three months of gluten free eating my liver enzymes were back to normal. That took 13 years since the rejection of my blood donation by the Red Cross. And my story is typical. Toward the end of that period I had developed some occasional diarrhea and oily stool but no major GI distress. Many celiacs do not have classic GI symptoms and are "silent" celiacs. There are around 200 symptoms that have been associated with celiac disease and many or most of them do not involve conscious GI distress. Via an autoimmune process, gluten ingestion triggers inflammation in the villous lining of the small bowel which damages it over time and inhibits the ability of this organ to absorb the vitamins and minerals in the food we ingest. So, that explains why those with celiac disease often suffer iron deficiency anemia, osteoporosis and a host of other vitamin and mineral deficiency related medical issues. The villous lining of the small bowel is where essentially all of our nutrition is absorbed. So, yes, anemia is one of the classic symptoms of celiac disease. One very important thing you need to be aware of is that your PCP may refer you to a GI doc for an endoscopy/biopsy of the small bowel lining to confirm the results of the blood antibody testing. So, you must not begin gluten free eating until that is done or at least you know they are going to diagnose you with celiac disease without it. If you start gluten free eating now there will be healing in the villous lining that will begin to take place which may compromise the results of the biopsy.
    • Anmol
      Hello all- my wife was recently diagnosed with Celiac below are her blood results. We are still absorbing this.  I wanted to seek clarity on few things:  1. Her symptoms aren't extreme. She was asked to go on gluten free diet a couple years ago but she did not completely cut off gluten. Partly because she wasn't seeing extreme symptoms. Only bloating and mild diarrhea after a meal full of gluten.  Does this mean that she is asymptomatic but enormous harm is done with every gram of gluten.? in other words is amount gluten directly correlated with harm on the intestines? or few mg of gluten can be really harmful to the villi  2. Why is she asymptomatic?  3. Is Gliadin X safe to take and effective for Cross -contamination or while going out to eat?  4. Since she is asymptomatic, can we sometimes indulge in a gluten diet? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deamidated Gliadin, IgG - 64 (0-19) units tTG IgA -  >100 (0-3) U/ml tTG IgG - 4   (0-5) Why is this in normal range? Endomysial Antibody - Positive  Immunoglobulin A - 352 (87-352) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for help in advance, really appreciate! 
×
×
  • Create New...