Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Are There Any Other Tests?


Worried mommy

Recommended Posts

Worried mommy Apprentice

Hi, my 8 year old had a full panel of blood work that came back negative. We have an apt with GI doctor for the biopsy results tomorrow. If that comes back negative is there any other test that can be done beside the genetic one. I have started her on a gluten-free for about a week and half and have noticed a big diffrence in a positive way.

My main concern is that I want to make sure weather she has celiac or not is there a definite answer?

What is the diffrence between a gluten intolerance and gluten sensitivity?

Hope to get some answers tomorrow. Would love any feedback and or questions to ask dr.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient

The terms gluten intolerance and gluten sensitivity are interchangeable and are used to distinguish between actual celiac disease and a problem with gluten that is not diagnosable as celiac. Non-celiac gluten sensitivity is a relatively new addition to the doctor lexicon, although we gluten sensitives have known about it for a lot longer. There are, however, no tests to define it yet although research is currently (finally!!, I might add) under way. The genetic test, of course, does not diagnose, merely shows a predisposition to develop the condition.

The best test ultimately is response to a gluten free diet. Since the child does not understand the placebo effect, if she responds positively to the diet then you have your answer that gluten was the problem, celiac or not. Let us know her biopsy results and what the GI has to say. By the way, were any of her blood tests even slightly positive? And did they do the total serum IgA?

Welcome to the boards and let us know what else we can help with. :)

Worried mommy Apprentice

Blood work done 1/12/13 results:

IGA 208 Reference 62-236

TTG IGA <2 reference 0-3

tTG IgG <2 reference 0-5

Glia din AB, IgA 4 reference 0-19

Glia din AB, IgG 2. reference 0-19

nvsmom Community Regular

I believe some have had tests done through Enterolab such as stool tests. I have never used them, or looked into them, but some people around here seem to have been happy with their product.

It could be that your 8 yo is a non-celiac gluten intolerant. Those with NCGI have pretty much all the same nasty symptoms as a celiac, just minus the damage to the villi in the small intestines. I don't believe it is classified as an autoimmune disease, but that's a good thing if it's what your child has.

I am also lactose intolerant, and it is surprising how painful it is to drink a glass a milk when no disease is involved. An intolerance is a serious issue that you should not let your medical practitioners ignore. A gluten intolerance could really impact your daughter's health.

My three boys tested negative to the blood work but two have shown obvious signs of improved health after months on the gluten-free diet. I assume that they are gluten intolerant but then treatment is the same so I keep them on the diet. It's possible they are celiacs (about 25% of celiacs test negative) but the diet is still gluten-free... In fact, many autoimmune disease patients are advised to eat gluten free to reduce inflammation and help in the treatment of other disorders (RA, Lupus, even Hashimotos).

Anyway, good luck. Perhaps search around or start a thread on Enterolab to see what others say (or have said) about it.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,084
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    Melvac
    Newest Member
    Melvac
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      Sigh. I posted this yesterday based on the Safeway website. I went back again today to their website to double check. On the page where they are selling Vanilla Bean flavor, it has a distinct Certified Gluten Free label. Other flavors on the Safeway website didn't have the gluten-free statement. Today I went into the store. None of the flavors I looked at, including Vanilla Bean, have a Gluten Free statement. Is it safe? Who knows. The ingredients are either safe or nearly safe (some have "natural flavor"). There are warnings about "contains milk and soy" but not about wheat - this implies they are safe, but again, who knows. On the other hand, every flavor I checked of their Slow Churn line of ice creams has wheat as an ingredient. 100% not safe.
    • knitty kitty
      Do keep in mind that many of the newly diagnosed have lactose intolerance.  This is because the villi lining the intestinal tract are damaged, and can no longer make the enzyme lactAse which breaks down the milk sugar lactOse.  When the villi grow back (six months to two years), they can again produce the enzyme lactAse, and lactose intolerance is resolved.  However, some people (both those with and without Celiac Disease) are genetically programmed to stop producing lactase as they age.   Do be aware that many processed foods, including ice cream, use Microbial Transglutaminase, a food additive commonly called "meat glue," used to enhance texture and flavor.  This microbial transglutaminase has the same immunogenicity as tissue transglutaminase which the body produces in response to gluten in people with Celiac Disease.  Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg IgA) is measured to diagnose Celiac Disease in blood tests.  Microbial Transglutaminase acts the same as Tissue Transglutaminase, causing increased intestinal permeability and inflammation.   New findings show that microbial transglutaminase may be able to trigger Celiac Disease and other autoimmune and neurodegenerative diseases.   Microbial Transglutaminase is not required to be listed on ingredients labels as it's considered a processing aid, not an ingredient in the U.S.  Microbial Transglutaminase has been GRAS for many years, but that GRAS standing is being questioned more and more as the immunogenicity of microbial transglutaminase is being discovered. Interesting Reading:  Microbial Transglutaminase Is a Very Frequently Used Food Additive and Is a Potential Inducer of Autoimmune/Neurodegenerative Diseases https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8537092/
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      There is a 10 year old post in this forum on Edy's and Dreyer's ice cream. The information is somewhat outdated and the thread is closed to further comment, so here is a new one. Edy's And Dreyer's Grand Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - 1.5 Quart is labeled "Gluten Free". This is a different answer than years gone by. I don't know the answer for any other flavor at this moment. On 1 May, 2026, Edy's website says: "As a general rule, the gluten in Edy's and Dreyer's® frozen dessert products is present only in the added bakery products, such as cookies, cake or brownies. We always label the eight major food allergens on our package by their common name. We recommend to always check the label for the most current information before purchasing and/or consuming a product. The exception to this rule is our Slow Churned French Silk frozen dairy dessert, which contains gluten in the natural flavors." https://www.icecream.com/us/en/brands/edys-and-dreyers/faq It seems that Edy's and Dreyer's are more celiac-friendly than they were 10 years ago. Once I found enough information to make today's buying decision, I stopped researching.
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      probably not your situation @Mimiof2, but allow me to add one more to @trents list of celiac-mimics: "olmesartan-induced sprue-like enteropathy"  
    • knitty kitty
      My dad had an Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm.  Fortunately, it was discovered during an exam.  The doctor could feel my dad's heart beating in his stomach/abdomen.  The aneurysm burst when the doctor first touched it in surgery.  Since he was already hooked up to the bypass machine, my dad survived ten more years.  Close call! Triple A's can press on the nerves in the spinal cord causing leg pain.  I'm wondering if bowing the head might have increased the pressure on an aneurysm and then the nerves.   https://gulfcoastsurgeons.com/understanding-abdominal-aortic-aneurysm-symptoms-and-causes/ Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm Presenting as a Claudication https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4040638/
×
×
  • Create New...