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Medicinal Mushrooms And Autoimmune Disorders

Cinnamon

By Cinnamon
in Coping with Celiac Disease

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Cinnamon Apprentice
Cinnamon
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I've been searching around for some supplements that might help my gluten sensitive family. I think Slippery Elm is good because it's supposed to coat and protect the intestinal lining, and so far it seems pretty good. But my main concern is that, having gone off gluten, everyone's confused immune systems will turn on other organs or go after other foods which previously were no problem. It seems like it's a common thing for someone to go off gluten and feel great, only to find that now other foods are intolerable. Other autoimmune diseases are more likely once you've had one, as well. So I've been trying to research things that might help the immune system.

One of the things I've been reading about is that medicinal mushrooms have substances in them that both stimulate and help modulate the immune system. But I really don't want to stimulate it, just modulate it. I essentially want to say, "look, Mr. Small Intestine is your friend. Yes, he was harboring your enemy, that gluten guy, for a while. Don't take it personally. And Mr. Thyroid, well he had nothing to do with this, you didn't have to punch his lights out. Take a deep breath and just relax." I don't want to make the immune system stronger, just smarter.

Has anyone tried the mushrooms? I was in the health food store the other day and saw them in a powdered capsule form and bought them, but I'm kind of afraid to try them. I don't want to stimulate the immune system and make things worse, but if they would modulate the immune system, it might prevent other diseases and maybe other intolerances, and perhaps make accidental glutening reactions less severe.

Anyone have any thoughts?

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Hi Cinnamon,

A few mushrooms/fungi have been found to fight other fungi. They will kill off with their mycotoxins the fungus that is living in your body and therefore help your immune system recover. This is a good thing but do go slow as the killing off of fungus in the body no matter how you do it will cause some die off reactions.

Go slow and remember to drink plenty of good clean water, have AC on hand, take a detox bath, eat plenty of good fiber in veggies and low sugar fruits to bind with the toxins released. All of that will speed up the detox process and bind with toxins and take them out of the body.

ML

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I use Slippery Elm because of it's anti-inflamatory properties. I also take Elderberry daily. Elderberry is considered by some to be a type of natural anti-biotic and it naturally contains a good dose of A B and C vitamins. Most common medicinal herbs in the daisy family cause a reaction for me, but the Slippery Elm and the Elderberry have yet to be an issue.

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gluten15 Apprentice
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I'm kinda confused about the mushroom thing right now. I had been taking Garden Of Life RM-10..but stopped taking it because I was also trying to work a candida into things and I thought that mushrooms weren't allowed for this..plus..aren't mushrooms overall sort of something we are warned to stay away from because of fungal type stuff?

Or would the mushrooms in the Garden Of Life RM-10 completely different. Am I way off base and overthinking this?

I have always sort of been confused by mushroom supps. On one hand they sound exciting..yet other things I read about mushrooms make me want to stay away from all mushrooms.

Thoughts and opinions would be very much appreciated please.

Thanks again.

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moldlady Rookie
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I agree, it is confusing. I do not eat mushrooms and I do not eat foods that contain fungus in them. Just as a precaution in case the spores or mycelia decide to morph into something that starts to become a problem.

There are certain rare types of fungus however that do kill other fungi. These are the specific ones I think that can actually help the immune system fight off systemic fungus. Nystatin is derived from a fungus and kills fungus in the intestinal tract.

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Cinnamon Apprentice
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Thank you for your replies. I guess it's hard to know whether they are a good thing or a bad thing. It's probably better not to take the powdered capsule kind, since it gives you many times as much as you'd get if you just ate some mushrooms. I guess the jury is still out on this one.

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Thank you for your replies. I guess it's hard to know whether they are a good thing or a bad thing. It's probably better not to take the powdered capsule kind, since it gives you many times as much as you'd get if you just ate some mushrooms. I guess the jury is still out on this one.

I haven't used mushrooms but just wanted to tell you Slippery Elm can be dangerous for pregnant women. It relaxes smooth walled muscle tissue and can cause miscarrriages. It has a a history of use as an abortificant too.

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Hi Cinnamon,

A few mushrooms/fungi have been found to fight other fungi. They will kill off with their mycotoxins the fungus that is living in your body and therefore help your immune system recover. This is a good thing but do go slow as the killing off of fungus in the body no matter how you do it will cause some die off reactions.

Go slow and remember to drink plenty of good clean water, have AC on hand, take a detox bath, eat plenty of good fiber in veggies and low sugar fruits to bind with the toxins released. All of that will speed up the detox process and bind with toxins and take them out of the body.

ML

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What is AC?

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Hi Cinnamon,

A few mushrooms/fungi have been found to fight other fungi. They will kill off with their mycotoxins the fungus that is living in your body and therefore help your immune system recover. This is a good thing but do go slow as the killing off of fungus in the body no matter how you do it will cause some die off reactions.

Go slow and remember to drink plenty of good clean water, have AC on hand, take a detox bath, eat plenty of good fiber in veggies and low sugar fruits to bind with the toxins released. All of that will speed up the detox process and bind with toxins and take them out of the body.

ML

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What is AC?

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Hi CJS,

AC is activated charcoal. Absorbs toxins very well and also gas/bloat. If you are on meds it will absorb that too so do be careful. Take at least 4 hours after meds.

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Cinnamon Apprentice
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Thanks so much for your help. I think I'll try Goji Berries instead of the mushrooms. Supposedly they help the immune system distinguish between what is self and what is not self, as well as a whole bunch of other things. Sounds safer. And thanks for telling me about the Slippery Elm causing miscarriages. I didn't know that.

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