What Can Happen To Me?

[Simona19]

I'm fructose intolerant. I would like to ask:

What can happen to me, if I will eat more fructose than I suppose to?

I know that I will have cramp, bloating ..., but can something happen to my intestines like with gluten? Do I need to avoid all fruit forever. So far I can tolerate only berries. Even orange, or banana is out. I will eat them like ones, twice per week, but with consequences.

After going gluten free I react strongly to everything. Why?

[cassP]

I'm fructose intolerant. I would like to ask:

What can happen to me, if I will eat more fructose than I suppose to?

I know that I will have cramp, bloating ..., but can something happen to my intestines like with gluten? Do I need to avoid all fruit forever. So far I can tolerate only berries. Even orange, or banana is out. I will eat them like ones, twice per week, but with consequences.

After going gluten free I react strongly to everything. Why?

its not all fruit- only fruit with a higher fructose content than sucrose content. i can eat plenty of berries and pineapple.. i can do a 1/2 of a banana more ripe than unripe, and a little bit of peaches & mango. and plenty of lemons and limes. most of the other fruits hurt me- esp. pears & dates. OH- i can also do some watermelon too.

google Fructose Malabsorption & the FODmap diet- every page may have a different list- so some of the items may be trial and error for you.

i have a friend online who had horrible fructose malabsorption (yes, she's also gluten free and dairy free)... anyways- she is now on the RAW VEGAN diet and hasnt had bad reactions to fructose so far. but i cant go ALL RAW VEGAN, as i also need to eat meat, and have to avoid corn & soy- so not my thing but i'd like to do it maybe 30%.

im thinking it might be possible that FM only has to be temporary- maybe our systems arent healed yet- or maybe we're deficient in some digestive enzymes... or maybe we have SIBO... i dont know- i hope it's temporary

i read somewhere but cant remember where- that if you continue to eat foods that hurt you so much that you cant digest- that it can mess up your kidneys.??

so, do some research- there is definitely SOME fruit you can eat!

[Simona19]

its not all fruit- only fruit with a higher fructose content than sucrose content. i can eat plenty of berries and pineapple.. i can do a 1/2 of a banana more ripe than unripe, and a little bit of peaches & mango. and plenty of lemons and limes. most of the other fruits hurt me- esp. pears & dates. OH- i can also do some watermelon too.

google Fructose Malabsorption & the FODmap diet- every page may have a different list- so some of the items may be trial and error for you.

i have a friend online who had horrible fructose malabsorption (yes, she's also gluten free and dairy free)... anyways- she is now on the RAW VEGAN diet and hasnt had bad reactions to fructose so far. but i cant go ALL RAW VEGAN, as i also need to eat meat, and have to avoid corn & soy- so not my thing but i'd like to do it maybe 30%.

im thinking it might be possible that FM only has to be temporary- maybe our systems arent healed yet- or maybe we're deficient in some digestive enzymes... or maybe we have SIBO... i dont know- i hope it's temporary

i read somewhere but cant remember where- that if you continue to eat foods that hurt you so much that you cant digest- that it can mess up your kidneys.??

so, do some research- there is definitely SOME fruit you can eat!

Hi! Thank you for reply. I know that I can have some fruit, but I

[11475]

Hi! Thank you for reply. I know that I can have some fruit, but I

[Simona19]

Hi, this may not be of any help to you personally, but it might. Have a look into amine, salicylate and glutamate sensitivities/reactions. The onion and green beans may be giving you problem related to fructose malabsorption, but cauliflower, broccoli, other vegetables, fruits that should be fine etc, may be due to salicylates and/or amines. Again - it might not be what's causing problems for you, but it's something to investigate and cross off the list if you are looking for other options.

Good luck!

I checked the list of fruit and vegetables and how high is the amount of salicytes in them and to my surprise everything fits. I will react very strongly to some vegetables, fruit and they will be in category of high or very high content. Thank you for your suggestion. It does look like this is IT.

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What should I eat? I do feel that I'm allergic or intolerant to everything. Can I have problems with enzymes in stomach, or some hormonal imbalance? I mean digestive hormones.

[cassP]

I checked the list of fruit and vegetables and how high is the amount of salicytes in them and to my surprise everything fits. I will react very strongly to some vegetables, fruit and they will be in category of high or very high content. Thank you for your suggestion. It does look like this is IT.

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What should I eat? I do feel that I'm allergic or intolerant to everything. Can I have problems with enzymes in stomach, or some hormonal imbalance? I mean digestive hormones.

you might be deficient in a lot of digestive enzymes.... i think if you're going thru phases where you only eat rice- then you're not getting any enzymes - so then, maybe it becomes a vicious cycle. ??

look at the lists above.. and also the fm lists- and get creative cause you gotta get some veggies and fruits down.

what about pineapple??? try it- it's supposed to help u with digestion- and it never hurts me. maybe also start juicing with the produce u CAN eat..... that way u can get a lot of nutrients in u.

also- do u eat yogurt??? i tend to have issues with dairy- and i never liked yogurt- but i started eating goat yogurt- and OMG YUM- i am addicted to the vanilla - and it really has made my BMs much more pleasant - and also my intestines seem more happier.

and YES- i can COMPLETELY relate to you about the real painful gas that doesnt ever come out - or takes forever- i COMPLETELY know what this is. it's always slow to come out... like 36 hrs sometimes. i could be making this up- but i THINK it's better since going on thyroid meds...

it was really bad after my colonoscopy- and the nurses were pissing me off big time- cause u know most people feel perfect afterwards- others just have some gas the rest of the day- well i had my painful gas- that wouldnt come out- and they were like:" oh you cant leave till you've passed a lot of gas"... and i was like "I KNOW MY BODY- THIS COULD TAKE 24 HOURS TO COME OUT"... nurse" try to turn from side to side- that helps"... me, after trying:" I JUST WANNA GO HOME AND LAY ON MY STOMACH ON A HEATING PAD".. nurse: " why dont u go use the restroom and see if it will come out".. me: " not with my iv in- i cant move- please take it out"....

OMG, this went on for some time- i think i ended up just lying and saying it was mostly all out LORD HAVE MERCY... itactually took me 5 days to get back to normal

[Simona19]

you might be deficient in a lot of digestive enzymes.... i think if you're going thru phases where you only eat rice- then you're not getting any enzymes - so then, maybe it becomes a vicious cycle. ??

look at the lists above.. and also the fm lists- and get creative cause you gotta get some veggies and fruits down.

what about pineapple??? try it- it's supposed to help u with digestion- and it never hurts me. maybe also start juicing with the produce u CAN eat..... that way u can get a lot of nutrients in u.

also- do u eat yogurt??? i tend to have issues with dairy- and i never liked yogurt- but i started eating goat yogurt- and OMG YUM- i am addicted to the vanilla - and it really has made my BMs much more pleasant - and also my intestines seem more happier.

and YES- i can COMPLETELY relate to you about the real painful gas that doesnt ever come out - or takes forever- i COMPLETELY know what this is. it's always slow to come out... like 36 hrs sometimes. i could be making this up- but i THINK it's better since going on thyroid meds...

it was really bad after my colonoscopy- and the nurses were pissing me off big time- cause u know most people feel perfect afterwards- others just have some gas the rest of the day- well i had my painful gas- that wouldnt come out- and they were like:" oh you cant leave till you've passed a lot of gas"... and i was like "I KNOW MY BODY- THIS COULD TAKE 24 HOURS TO COME OUT"... nurse" try to turn from side to side- that helps"... me, after trying:" I JUST WANNA GO HOME AND LAY ON MY STOMACH ON A HEATING PAD".. nurse: " why dont u go use the restroom and see if it will come out".. me: " not with my iv in- i cant move- please take it out"....

OMG, this went on for some time- i think i ended up just lying and saying it was mostly all out LORD HAVE MERCY... itactually took me 5 days to get back to normal

On top of my lactose intolerance I developed real milk allergy. I can’t have any milk. I will eat coconut yogurt from time to time (when I have money to visit Whole food store). I will buy plain or some times chocolate. I will have abdominal pain after any fruit flavor.

It is possible that I don’t have enough of digestive enzymes. Why? I don’t know. The truth is - I do eat mostly rice based food - milk, cereal, Udi’s bread, rice in my dinner and other.

Every week I will make vegetable soup in a bigger pot and I will eat it almost every day. I will cook in it many types of vegetables (even cauliflower or broccoli) . I will eat my soup, even if I know up front that I will have problems later.

Pineapple always gave mi mouth allergy. It got to the point that I ate just one slice and I had mouth burning, bloody sores on my tongue and very itchy throat. I have that also with cantaloupe.

I have allergy on all nuts( anaphylactic shock after 1 Brazil nut), peanuts, honey (choking and coughing and kiwi (the same reaction as honey), pineapple and cantaloupe( mouth allergy) , few times I had same reaction to watermelon. I have fructose intolerance, I was lactose intolerant and now I have casein allergy - milk is out. Than I have acid reflux - every food that is causing reflux is out for me (some time I will eat them anyway).

On top I will react very badly to any onion, garlic, beans, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, Clementine, plum, peach, and other.

I will eat them from time to time because I crave them, but with consequences.

I wish that I was able to eat everything again. Everything started after one surgery in 2005. It happened on Wednesday. Later, on Monday, my father went to ER with breathing problems (blood). He had surgery on Wednesday and died at 3:34AM on Saturday same week. He was 54 years old. I thing this was my breaking point. 7 months later I had anaphylactic shock and more and more intolerances and allergies (even to medicines). I started to react to dairy with BM from 5 to 15 minutes. Occasionally I had unexplained D. I got fat.

Last year by accident I found out that I have beginning of celiac disease - Marsh1, casein allergy, fructose intolerance and SIBO. Hm

[Leli]

I've been through what you describe - this is what I know. I hope some of it helps.

Gas production that doesn't come out is probably not in the colon - it's probably in the small intestine. Gas is produced by bacteria, but you're not supposed to have so many gas producing bacteria in your small intestine. The bacteria are most likely the kind that love fructose and other short chain sugars (which you get in fruits and veges), which is why fruit hurts you - the bacteria have a feast and produce lots of gas which give you cramps. The osmotic load in the gut is also changed, so water is either pumped in, causing diarrhea, or pumped out, causing constipation. Google FODMAPS. It will explain what's going on in more detail. Here's pubmed on FODMAPS. It's technical, and you can find lots of easier stuff out there.

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Stress can bring on changes in the gut that cause this (sounds like Irritable Bowel Syndrome) which would explain the connection to your father's passing. My condolences.

If you starve these bacteria by depriving them of what they eat, they will reduce in number, and if you take a good probiotic you can maybe replace them, or crowd them out.

Reactions to salicylates are usually neurological, not gastric. You might have flushing and feelings of heat, and/or irritability and brain fog, or hives, or breathing difficulties. I have been extremely salicylate sensitive, and then I found this study:

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Basically, if I take plenty of fish oil I'm ok with a moderate dose of salicylates! It's a whole new world for me! But I'm not sure salicylates are the problem for you. There's a big cross-over - lots of things are full of FODMAPS and salicylates, but the symptoms are different for each sensitivity.

So, if you reduce your fruit intake, and take a probiotic, and fish oil, you will hopefully improve. The other thing to consider is that with gut problems comes poor absorption of nutrients. This is, I think, the answer to your original question - what can happen? If you can't take in nutrients because your gut isn't functioning properly, even though your diet might be full of vitamins you could become deficient. Then all sorts of things can go wrong. Everyone is different and I could not diagnose vitamin deficiency, but it's likely you would benefit form some supplements. If you can get vitamin serum levels (blood tests) done you'll know what to take - otherwise consider vit D3, magnesium, and a mixed B vitamin with maybe extra B12. Always take with food.

Do you eat meat? I recommend it, and fish, and I recommend completely avoiding anything processed. Don't be afraid of olive oil and butter, but don't use other vegetable oils. No corn, soy, sunflower, safflower, canola or rapeseed oil. They are high in inflammatory omega 6 fatty acids, and highly processed. Eat what vegetables you can - they are usually lower in sugars.

Doing these things has saved me. For a while I could eat only rice, lettuce and meat, but now I can eat vegetable soup and berries and even drink coffee. I have reasonable energy most days, and almost never have the sort of gut symptoms you describe any more.

I hope this helps you.