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Queen Serenity

Irish Heritage And Celiac's

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The Irish connection dispelled.

Ireland is one of the more frequent countries to start ingesting wheat. They (and all the british isles) have only had it in their diets for 3000 years whereas other countries have had some form of gluten formerly in their diet for tens of thousands of years.

It's the "irish inability to digest wheat" b/c we haven't eaten it, our body thinks it's a toxin and we're more liable to have anti-gliadin show that our bodies are fighting it off vs ingesting it properly.

It's evolutionary reaction to diet really.

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I've heard I've got some irish in me, but also a number of other western european heritage that could also be a source for the celiac gene. (though I haven't had the test, so I'm _presuming_ I've got at least one...)


Tiffany aka "Have I Mentioned Chocolate Lately?"

Inconclusive Blood Tests, Positive Dietary Results, No Endoscopy

G.F. - September 2003; C.F. - July 2004

Hiker, Yoga Teacher, Engineer, Painter, Be-er of Me

Bellevue, WA

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Guest ~wAvE WeT sAnD~

Mother's side: English, Welsh, German

Father's side: Irish, Italian, German, 2% American Indian (some extremely distant relative named Miniola, "Spotted Horse")

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I am mostly German, my ancestors are listed as pioneers who settled

Pennsylvania. When asked about our ancestry in grade school my

grandmother said tell them "Pennsylvania Dutch" which was not Dutch

but German. When doing our family tree for my kids, I did learn of

an irish/english great grandmother which explained a lot.


judy

gluten-free since 11/03, neg biopsy, IGA elevated

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Cool! I've got some "Pennsylvania Dutch" in me as well. :-) (Not sure how far back, though.)


Tiffany aka "Have I Mentioned Chocolate Lately?"

Inconclusive Blood Tests, Positive Dietary Results, No Endoscopy

G.F. - September 2003; C.F. - July 2004

Hiker, Yoga Teacher, Engineer, Painter, Be-er of Me

Bellevue, WA

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Wow! My maternal ancestry is Scottish and my paternal ancestry is German and Irish. Man, what do they mean by the "Luck of the Irish" because I'm not seeing it!!! LOL

BTW, There is some information about the correlation between Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome and having either American Indian or Irish in one's background.

My maternal family history shows a strong line of hypothyroid. Although there is only one other person in my distant family history that tested positive for Celiac, she (a child) doesn't have it as bad as I do and I not have Celiac but I did test positive for Gluten Sensitivity.

Is there anyone out there that can relate and has had a positive outcome????? :D

My gift to you...

These are the nutraceuticals that helped me: Aloe Vera Juice, Colostrum, calcium with magnesium (high doses). :D:D

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Wow--

When my doctor wanted me to give up gluten based on my ancestry I thought she was crazy. She told me not only Irish but also people of German and Nordic backgrounds were high risk. I'm all three: French/German on my dad's side, Irish/Norwegian on my mom's.

Tammy--you said you did not have Celiac but were gluten sensitive? What's the difference?

Aeval

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I know this is a really old thread but I am really surprised to read all this! I am of Irish and German descent!!!


hypothyroid

hypoglycemic (diagnosed 1997 but symptomatic since grade school)

fibromyalgia

rheumatoid arthritis (diagnosed January 2005)

peanut allergy

restarting gluten-free January 20, 2013

elevated liver enzymes + symptoms indicated celiac January 31, 2013. Dr. didn't want to run further tests due to other health complications

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I'm Irish on my father's side and Czech on my mother's. My father has horrible stomach problems as well as not having a thyroid. In my family i have been the only one diagnosed with celiac disease, but if i had to guess it came from my father... and yep, he's Irish... hmm...


Gabrielle

Lancaster, Pennsylvania

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Guest nini

funny, that was one of the first things my GI doc asked me, did I have any Irish ancestors? Yep. Big time Irish on my mom's mothers side. my mom's dads family all French/Canadian, on my dad's side all Scottish, and English... stomach problems on both sides of the family.

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Guest Leidenschaft

Irish, Hungarian on Mom's side, Scottish, Dutch (and or German?) on Dad's side. Mom was dx'd 16 years ago.

A true Canadian Mutt! :lol:

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My mom's 100% Irish...says she can't eat half the foods in existence, but she hasn't indiicated that she plans to be tested (age 76, very set in her ways)...She was ALWAYS taking OTC stomach meds while I was growing up...she eventually suffered from heart palpitations, and had to get a pace-maker.

My dad is half English, half Czech...

I have the gene that is found in only 5% of celiac's (DQ8), BUT I think it comes from the Czech side?

...my dad has diabetes (Type II), neuropathy, early onset dementia...Constipation seems to be his main problem, stomach-wise, and it was mine also...but, I also had diarrhea (explosive-type) on occasion, before going gluten-free.

Gina


"Get busy living

or get busy dying."

From: The Shawshank Redemption

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gluten-free since Jan 1 '05

Positive response to diet within days, felt 'alive again' within 2 weeks

Feb 22 '05:

Diagnosed "Celiac Sprue, and IBS" by a GI doc, Dr. David Lin of Danville, CA

via blood testing 53 days after I began the gluten-free diet on my own:

Test results at 53 days POST going gluten-free were:

Gliadin AB IgA = 29.9

Since 30+ = positive for Celiac Disease when ingesting gluten, my doc

diagnosed me with Celiac Sprue then and there.

Gliadin AB IgG was 5.6 at that point

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Endoscopy with biopsies, AND colonoscopy with biopsies were done,

only to rule out other possible GI problems (especially intestinal

lymphoma) - My doctor told me the results indicated "no current damage

found" - and that as long as I stay gluten-free, I don't need another

biopsy for ten years.

Follow-up blood testing was done about one year later, by the same

Gastro doc, in Nov '05:

Gliadin AB IgA =26, Gliadin AB IgG <1

Blood testing done again by him, 5 months later (March '06)

He then told me my tests results were back to normal, and "Keep up the

good work! You can't argue with success!" :-)

I now see him one time per year for routine testing to make sure I am

staying gluten-free.

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ADDTIONALLY:

I was also diagnosed as positive for antibodies and autoimmune

response to gliadin by Enterolab, via stool specimen taken 56 days

gluten-free

and I have one of the two genes that 'cause' Celiac Disease:

"HLA-DQ8," via Enterolabs cheek cell test kit

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I began a COMPLETE 'Gluten-free Casein-free' diet in Nov '05, due to:

"positive" for casein antibodies from Enterolab (in Feb '05)

and

"positive" for casein IgG (Elisa) via York Labs' finger-prick blood

test, Sept '05

and continued 'stomach pains,' although nothing compared to before

going gluten-free....

UPDATE: ALL remaining symptoms disappeared within weeks of going gluten-free&CF!

**********************

My PAST illnesses I believe are attributable to Untreated Celiac Disease:

Recurrent ear and throat infections in childhood

Frequent childhood stomach aches, underweight, picky eater

Tooth enamel problems/excessive cavities in childhood

Diagnosed in 20's with non-allergic rhinitis

Two spontaneous abortions (childless)

IBS diagnosis at age 28 (all better post going gluten-free and casein-free)

["Horrible" digestive problems from ages 32-47 - excess gas,

diarrhea gone post gluten-free!]

Reflux diagnosis at age 35 ('reflux' gone post gluten-free)

ADHD diagnosis at age 38 and at age 48 (not as bad with Gluten-free Casein-free diet)

Broke elbow in 2 places, age 39

Osteopenia diagnosed at age 44 (bone scan revealed thinning of spine -

taking Calcium and Vit D now)

Fibromyalgia diagnosis at age 40 (fatigue and pain all gone post gluten-free!)

Minor depression with anxiety diagnosed at age 42 (taking Paxil)

Skin cancer - squamous at age 43 and pre-melanoma at age 45

Adult acne (this, too, went away, but only after going dairy-free)

Topical dermatitis (so bad I needed steroid shots) diagnosed at age 46

(That's gone now, too!)

Excessive bruising of skin began at age 45:

I was told by derm doc AND family physician "That's just thin, aging

skin, nothing you can do about that" (GUESS WHAT?! ...NO unusual

bruising POST going gluten-free! I can now wear skirts and shorts

again!)

SO many years of being sick...

Hopefully, others will benefit from Science, and the increasing media

attention being given to Celiac Disease and gluten-based illnesses,

and will not have to go through what I, and others on here, have had

to go through.

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Growing up, I used to identify with my German heritage, because my first, middle and last names are Germanic. My father's father was German, but really, I'm mostly Scottish. My mother is of Scottish descent, and three of my four grandparents were also Scottish. There are a few Irish ancestors, but the line started in Scotland. Someone who was interested in our somewhat colorful family history researched our family genealogy back to the year 800, as part of her doctorate. Turns out, I'm directly descended from the first king of Scotland, so I guess I'm pretty darn Scottish. Instead of sitting on a throne in ermine robes, I sometimes sit on the throne, constipated, because of Celiac disease. :P

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My Mom is 100% Swedish and my father is 75% Swedish. Sooo, I claim Swedish!!

celiac3270 and I are the only Swedes so far ~ I knew there was something I liked about him!! ;)

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Wow, I learn something new about celiac all the time. I am also a northern European mutt, but predominately Irish, German, English, and from the Isle of Man (in the British Isles). My healthy-as-a-horse husband is also of Irish descent. I was always hoping that when we eventually have kids some day, they would have more of his 'hearty midwestern stock' genes than my sickly genes. After reading this, I don't think so!

Darn.

--Rachel, gluten-free for almost a year

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Mi dad's side was German and my mom's side Dutch. We were the only members of the family to move to California so I don't have a lot of information regarding other people having celiac disease. I did have a cousin that had chron's years ago and sometimes I wonder if they diagnosed it wrong. She had to have a bag, how awful.


Nostaglia is a file that removes the rough edges from the good old days!!!!

" 15 years of it's stress!"

"blood work show's a disease called celiac,

but it can't be that because it's rare!"

Diagnosed via blood and biopsy 2003

Not a medical professional just a silly celiac

offering support, my

experience and advice

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Guest gfinnebraska
:o My sister was visiting this weekend, and she told me that the missing 25% of our father that I didn't know is part Irish!!! UGH! Hmmm... there must be something to that Irish thing... who knew??? :blink:

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That was sweet minibabe!


Nostaglia is a file that removes the rough edges from the good old days!!!!

" 15 years of it's stress!"

"blood work show's a disease called celiac,

but it can't be that because it's rare!"

Diagnosed via blood and biopsy 2003

Not a medical professional just a silly celiac

offering support, my

experience and advice

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My doc told me when he gave me the celiac diagnosis that it's most common in those if Irish descent... my mom was right off the boat, born in Belfast. All my relatives are either Irish or Scottish.

Hope the German and Russian added in to my daughter's gene pool will help them avoid this NO FUN deal!!


luvs2eat

Living in the beautiful Ozark mountains in Arkansas

positive blood tests and later, positive biopsy

diagnosed 8/5/02, gluten-free (after lots of mistakes!) since that day

Dairy free since July 2010 and NOT happy about it!!

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