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Anyone Have Trouble With Probiotics?


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So as some of you know I have been having trouble again after 2 years gluten free, but had got cc'd several times in a row. So started (after this big flare up) on probiotics and back on nexium and then later gastric enzymes. So then I was still having problems so tried grain and dairy free for a few days. Nothing was helping. I felt like I was taking more and more pills so I stopped everything. And then things got better. I added back nexium ,that is ok. I suspect the probiotics. Can that be possible? Was taking culturelle and acidophilous. I was to the point with bloating that I couldn't even sleep. Since I stopped taking them that is so much better. I know that can be a common reaction in the first few days of starting probiotics but was on them about 3 weeks. Tried dairy again today and did fine. Could this be? What should I do??


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raea2002 Apprentice

I started taking Raw women's multivitamin, it has probiotics in it. I havent had a problem with them.

Lisa Mentor

When first diagnosed, I tried probiotic and it did not settle with me well.

My pro biotics had dairy. I stopped it for a month and found one which did not contain dairy and continued with no issue.

I assume you have checked you meds. Even generics change frequently.

But, as we all know, not all roads lead to gluten. ;)

mamajchis Newbie

When first diagnosed, I tried probiotic and it did not settle with me well.

My pro biotics had dairy. I stopped it for a month and found one which did not contain dairy and continued with no issue.

I assume you have checked you meds. Even generics change frequently.

But, as we all know, not all roads lead to gluten. ;)

I started using align. Started having setbacks about the same time with no change in diet. I quit eating gluten March 12 2012 so still fairly new to this. I have most of the GI problems which are taking longer to improve on than I had hoped.

tom Contributor

I had to switch to a 'vegan formula' one because I was getting dairy symptoms from regular ones.

So I use the green-topped PB8 from WhFds. Blue top is regular.

dilettantesteph Collaborator

What brand of probiotics was it? Could there be cc problems?

tom Contributor

If that's for me it was multiple brands & my dairy symptoms are easily distinguishable from gluten symptoms.


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Is your diet high in sugars or the processed gluten-free subs? This will "feed" the bad bacteria that the probiotics are trying to get rid of which will make a little "war" in your digestive system.

nursenation2 Rookie

Don't eat a lot of sugar unless you count natural sugars as in fruit. I eat the occasional schar chibata roll. None this week even. I don't like most of the gluten-free subs and never liked sweets. See the doc next week I'm hoping we can figure something out.

beachbirdie Contributor

So as some of you know I have been having trouble again after 2 years gluten free, but had got cc'd several times in a row. So started (after this big flare up) on probiotics and back on nexium and then later gastric enzymes. So then I was still having problems so tried grain and dairy free for a few days. Nothing was helping. I felt like I was taking more and more pills so I stopped everything. And then things got better. I added back nexium ,that is ok. I suspect the probiotics. Can that be possible? Was taking culturelle and acidophilous. I was to the point with bloating that I couldn't even sleep. Since I stopped taking them that is so much better. I know that can be a common reaction in the first few days of starting probiotics but was on them about 3 weeks. Tried dairy again today and did fine. Could this be? What should I do??

I cannot take probiotics with FOS (fructo-oligosaccharides) in them, I get a lot of gut pain.

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