Traces of wheat

[Oldturdle]

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occaisions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

[Beverage]

Never ever for me. No noticeable symptoms does not mean no autoimmune response. 

[cindy426]

15 hours ago, Beverage said:

Never ever for me. No noticeable symptoms does not mean no autoimmune response. 

 

On 9/3/2021 at 3:39 PM, Oldturdle said:

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occaisions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

I do eat products that say "Manufactured in a plant ......." but would not eat something that says may contain traces of wheat and am very strict with my diet otherwise.  I do not typically react to cross contamination and recently had an endoscopy for other reasons and they found no evidence of celiac, meaning no blunting of the villi so evidently I am doing well with my diet.  And just to be clear, I was diagnosed by endoscopy 13 years ago and do react with symptoms if I am glutenized. I think it is all very individualized as some people react much more severely than others. 

[GodsGal]

On 9/3/2021 at 3:39 PM, Oldturdle said:

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occaisions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

I would not trust it, especially if the product is not certified gluten free. I ordered some spices the other day. Unfortunately I didn't read the label close enough. When they arrived, I saw "may contain traces of wheat." I gave it to my neighbor. 😊

[Goosse1962]

On 9/3/2021 at 2:39 PM, Oldturdle said:

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occaisions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

For some items in the store there are no other options. I have seen such warnings on packages marked gluten-free and one that was even certified. Even without the warning, I have had issues with the amount of gluten in foods marked or certified gluten-free. I take a GliadinX capsule with all meals and snacks in case trace amounts exist in what should be gluten free. I always select the best option available of those that don't specifically contain gluten, which increases the grocery bill.

[trents]

On 9/3/2021 at 12:39 PM, Oldturdle said:

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occaisions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

The reasons for the risk of containing small amounts of gluten may be different in these two scenarios, but the net result is essentially the same. Those of us who are less sensitive to traces of gluten probably take the risk of consuming products with these kinds of warnings from time to time. But as has been said, just because there is no sensation of being "glutened" is no guarantee that no inflammation occurred.

[Oldturdle]

18 hours ago, Goosse1962 said:

For some items in the store there are no other options. I have seen such warnings on packages marked gluten-free and one that was even certified. Even without the warning, I have had issues with the amount of gluten in foods marked or certified gluten-free. I take a GliadinX capsule with all meals and snacks in case trace amounts exist in what should be gluten free. I always select the best option available of those that don't specifically contain gluten, which increases the grocery bill.

Isn't that the truth, about the grocery bill!  Cooking from scratch is a good option, but not always how we want to spend our time.  I too take Gliadinx, but usually only when eating in restaurants, or at friend's homes.  I told my gastroenterologist that I take Gliadinx. He had never heard of it, so I explained it was an enzyme that broke down gluten in the stomach.  He still had not heard of this concept.  He said, "They probably won't hurt you.  Take them if they are cheap.  Don't take them if they are expensive."  

[LovintheGFlife]

15 hours ago, Oldturdle said:

Isn't that the truth, about the grocery bill!  Cooking from scratch is a good option, but not always how we want to spend our time.  I too take Gliadinx, but usually only when eating in restaurants, or at friend's homes.  I told my gastroenterologist that I take Gliadinx. He had never heard of it, so I explained it was an enzyme that broke down gluten in the stomach.  He still had not heard of this concept.  He said, "They probably won't hurt you.  Take them if they are cheap.  Don't take them if they are expensive."  

@Oldturdlethat sounds like my GE too. I have been using Gliadin X when eating out (gluten-free meals of course!) and have found it to be very beneficial. Either the Gliadin is working, or the meals I have eaten out are truly gluten-free, as claimed!

[Distressed]

On 9/3/2021 at 12:39 PM, Oldturdle said:

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occasions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

Yes, it is a dangerous endeavor.  Any product labeled "manufactured in facility containing wheat" is a no go.  Although it is rare, some products do not have any allergen warning on the package.   The trials were costly and I no longer leave it to chance.  Even gluten-free labeling must be evaluated.  I look for the 
Certified label.  "Celiac friendly" is pure nonsense.  Ingredients labels are of utmost importance also since there are 45 gluten cross-reactors.  Yeast is the worst offender of all followed by dairy and egg.  

 

[trents]

2 hours ago, Distressed said:

Yes, it is a dangerous endeavor.  Any product labeled "manufactured in facility containing wheat" is a no go.  Although it is rare, some products do not have any allergen warning on the package.   The trials were costly and I no longer leave it to chance.  Even gluten-free labeling must be evaluated.  I look for the 
Certified label.  "Celiac friendly" is pure nonsense.  Ingredients labels are of utmost importance also since there are 45 gluten cross-reactors.  Yeast is the worst offender of all followed by dairy and egg.  

 

What do you mean by "gluten cross reactors"?

[LovintheGFlife]

On 9/3/2021 at 3:39 PM, Oldturdle said:

Does anyone eat products that say, "may contain traces of wheat," under the ingredient list?  How about, "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat?"  Are these different?  I have eaten both on rare occaisions, with seemingly no I'll effects, but wonder if I am playing with fire.

@Oldturdleto be honest, I have recently started eating chocolates and truffles that are labeled "may contain traces of wheat," or "manufactured in a plant that also manufactures products containing wheat". However, I must emphasize that a Gliadin-X capsule is also ingested when indulging in such products. I have yet to experience any adverse reaction so far. I believe, the amount of gluten contaminant, if at all present on a piece of candy, is negligible (<20 ppm); or, Gliadin-X is effective in combating any traces of cross-contamination.

[Distressed]

10 hours ago, trents said:

What do you mean by "gluten cross reactors"?

Our site here, has a wonderful explanation and it includes a listing of 19 top cross-reactors. 

The article is entitled: Gluten and Cross-Reactive Foods - Celiac.com

 

[trents]

1 hour ago, Distressed said:

Our site here, has a wonderful explanation and it includes a listing of 19 top cross-reactors. 

The article is entitled: Gluten and Cross-Reactive Foods - Celiac.com

 

I am aware that in some celiacs dairy can cause villi blunting. That has been researched and documented by NIH. But broad scale gluten cross reactivity is a dubious concept for which there is not reliable data: https://www.cureceliacdisease.org/faq/whats-with-all-the-talk-about-certain-types-of-food-causing-cross-reactivity/

I would suggest you go back and read the comments on the article you referenced.

Edited December 16, 2021 by trents