Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[diamondheart]

At any rate....I'll be taking DMSA after LED when its appropriate. Obviously it will be needed after my 5th session...not sure if it will be used after any of the other treatments.

Rachel,

How do you think that works with the chelation starting after your 5th LED session? Just wondering why you wouldn't start chelation before LED and what you think the relationship is?

I guess I missed the whole cooking thing after LED, but my ART lady wasn't too worried if I wasn't super strict about avoiding stuff. She said you just do the best you can. I couldn't totally avoid my cell phone after my LED treatment, but it seemed to work fine. I'll have my next one when I get back from California

So you guys met up after all!!! How fun!

Our first Close Encounter of the Rachelville kind ! It is kinda strange how you get to know people on line, then you meet them in person. You know, like when you read a book and then you go see the movie, and the person isn't how you had imagined them in your head. Not in a bad way, but just different. By the way Tom, your secret is safe with me, at least for today ! Gotta make you sweat a little .

I don't know how much fun we were. We were just sitting there all drinking our water, cuz we couldn't have something more exciting, ! Tom came to the rescue with his super fancy phone as Donna forgot her camera. I was waiting for him to stick his ATM card in it to get money. What else does that thing do? That was us in front of Whole Foods, the only "safe" place we could meet. I was so happy to see a WF again! I thought it would be nice to sit outside, but I was shocked how we were surrounded by smokers . That wouldn't happen in the People's Republic of Boulder .

Anyhoo, it was fun connecting with Donna and Tom. Just makes it a bit more personal around here, which is nice . We can be so different yet have this common connection. Hugs were given all around !

I'm in Santa Cruz now. I took a walk down by the beach, and wouldn't you know it, but I was surrounded by more smoke! It was one big party of bonfires. I think I'll go get some redwood tree hugging action tomorrow before picking DH up. It's my duty as the Rachelville granola. If I had my camping stuff, that's what I would have done tonight and no posting here! I love redwood trees !

Claire

[Judyin Philly]

hi andrea

see you here.

guess we are the only nite owls.

it's 2:11 here.

i felt so bad at 3:00 i went to bed and slept till 7:00 pm so now wide awake.

how are you feeling??

are you still on line?

judy

ha, now i see you Rachel,

How are you doing?

[Judyin Philly]

had a fast phone conversation with Susie Q tonight

she always makes me laugh. we had few of those.

It's early out there. any plans for the weekend?

are you up to doing anything or still tired?

[Judyin Philly]

so Clare and Donna and Tom all met up?

how cool is that????

[Judyin Philly]

well guess all of you are reading so will sign off for the nite.

just doing my daily cking on rachelville...

nite all

[Rachel--24]

Rachel,

How do you think that works with the chelation starting after your 5th LED session? Just wondering why you wouldn't start chelation before LED and what you think the relationship is?

Claire,

I wont be starting chelation after the 5th LED....I guess I didnt explain it very well.

I'll be taking DMSA because my 5th LED is for mercury. After each LED there are certain detox supplements to help your body to remove the toxins.

Unless I dont test well for the DMSA....thats what they would use to assist in removing the mobilized mercury from my body. They cant just do the LED and not provide the necessary supplements to help my body get rid of the toxins.

DMSA binds with the metals....its gonna pick up the metals that are being released following the LED treatment and escort them out of my body. Its absolutely necessary to have something there to "pick up" the metals.

With every treatment there are detox support supplements used to assist in the removal of the toxins.

I'm wondering if I'll be having to take DMSA or something to bind with metals after the treatments for my infections. When the bugs get treated they release metals...so I'm assuming they will want to have something there to bind with any released metals. I dont know if they will use DMSA after those treatments or not.

They do not want "herxes" or a worsening of symptoms so they do all that they can to prevent those types of reactions and to get the toxins out w/out having you get sick in the process.

So....I'm not actually starting chelation the way you're thinking of it....I'm just taking what is necessary to get the *already released* metals out of my body.

Thats why its taken *after* the LED....there is no reason to take it before the treatment since we're not trying to "chelate" with traditional chelators....we're doing the LED and then using whatever works best to assist in the detox and move the metals out.

I guess I missed the whole cooking thing after LED, but my ART lady wasn't too worried if I wasn't super strict about avoiding stuff. She said you just do the best you can. I couldn't totally avoid my cell phone after my LED treatment, but it seemed to work fine. I'll have my next one when I get back from California

Wow...I'm really surprised that she told you it was ok to use your cell phone!

Everything I've read and what my own Dr.'s told me is that the effectiveness of these treatments relies heavily on avoidance of these things and following whatever detox protocol you were given.

I dont think its a matter of one Dr. being more strict than another...its just that EMF's can totally negate a whole treatment because LED works energetically. EMF's or other things (like metals) can stop the detox right in its tracks. The body needs a full 24 hours to go through this process and if anything interferes with whats going on energetically....the whole thing is canceled and it wont work.

The girl who did my treatment went into great detail about exactly how this stuff can interfere with the detox and how important it is that they be avoided for the 25 hours.

Heres some of the info that stresses the importance of following all the post-led stuff...

The 24

[Rachel--24]

ha, now i see you Rachel,

How are you doing?

Hi Judy!!

I'm doing good.

I missed your posts cuz I was typing.

Sorry you felt bad today....hopefully tomorrow will be a better day and you can go work in the yard. I saw some of your pics on D/S awhile back. Nice garden work! You obviously have a green thumb.

I'm not too tired anymore....although this whole week I was going to bed much earlier than normal.

Not tonite though....its Friday.

[AndreaB]

Hi Judy!

I missed you too.

I am still up and online I was just reading on a different website.

[Judyin Philly]

Hi you 2.

Went to bed after I posted to you guys

I want to put a link here to my photos but bet it won't let me.

I could send to your emails if this doesn't work.

I know you don't see email often Rachel and Andrea see's them on daily strength.

here goes.

Open Original Shared Link

we'll some find out.

Judy

heading out into the gardens.

Judy

ps The garden Editor of the Phil Inquirer was here interviewing Jim yesterday for his Nature Journaling Classes.. I didn't really talk to her tho.

Have a wonderful link to her article this week with cool video.

catch you both later.

PSS i can open this...can you let me know if you can open it?

thanks

[dlp252]

HI Judy! I'll going to check out your link now!

Patients must abstain from sexual intimacy during the 24

[dlp252]

Judy, the pictures are wonderful...my dad LOVED camelias and always had one or two in his garden.

The painting by Jim is fantastic...was that watercolor? Very nice!

[CarlaB]

Donna, the lady at Wild Oats printed out a page for me from their computer ... it says to take 200 mg. 5HTP at 9:15, then 400 mg. at 11:15. I'm trying that tonight ... I'm also taking the melatonin and valerian with it.

Last night I took the melatonin, valerian and L-Tryptophan. I couldn't get to sleep, then I woke up at 1AM, then again at 3AM. I went right back to sleep at 1, but didn't fall asleep again till about 5 after the second wake-up.

I used to be able to handle the occasional bad night sleep, but now it's every night. I can't remember the last time I slept through the night and it's causing me to not feel as good as I was. I definately need to address this. I left a message two days ago at my LLMD's office, but didn't hear back .... I wonder if she just called something in or if I need to call them back Monday.

[diamondheart]

Hi Rachel,

Thanks for all that LED stuff. I missed the part about abstaining from sex . DH would not like that! I also missed about using electric toothbrushes and hair dryer . Oops. Well, I'll know better for next time. Can you provide the link to that website where you got the info? I hope I can remember which page this is on so I can come back to it. I can't print it out right now.

I also didn't get from my ART lady that you can't wear metal jewerly or metal belt buckles after the treatment. I though you only had to take them off during the treatment? Actually, I can't really remember what she told me . Sheesh, that was a month ago!

I can't wait for my next treatment. My ears are ringing louder again after yesterday's smoke filled adventure. I also wonder if somehow the West Nile Virus got stirred up again in all this? I rarely get colds in the summer and the one time I did, I think it was actually WNV . This one wasn't so bad though, so I guess that's a good sign. I think my ears have been ringing more because of the increased mercury in my system after my amalgam removal.

I talked to my acu about testing me for DMSA. It sounded like he didn't usually test people for DMSA, which I found curious. How will you be tested for DMSA? Dr. F usually uses his electro-dermal Vega testing machine. Donna and I were talking yesterday about how scared we were to take the chemical chelators. Do you think you would take the DMSA different than how it would be prescribed for normal mercury chelation? I'm curious about how all this works. Plus part of me would like to speed up this process of moving the mercury out of my system. I think I need to be a little more patient . It's been less than 2 weeks since my last amalgams were removed!

Hi Judy,

I did a quick drive by of your photos. I love all your flowers. Nice paintings by DH! Love the nature theme!

Hi Donna,

I used to take HTP-5. It was great at first, then not so good . I had to stop taking it because it wasn't good for me anymore. I think you have to be really careful about the amount you take because you can take too much. I forget how it works, but I think maybe it builds up the hormones in your body. Can you get someone to test it on you to see if it's still good for you? I take my magnesium right before bed, 300 mg. My problem is getting up about an hour or two before I'm supposed to get up. It seems to have gotten better lately, and I'm not sure why. Maybe the LED treatment? If I had to be at work as early as you, I don't know that I would get enought sleep!

On to my next adventure....

Claire

[diamondheart]

Donna,

Your new avatar makes me laugh ! After all our talk about your cruise trips, I'm just gonna call you Cruising Spice now !

Claire

[AndreaB]

PSS i can open this...can you let me know if you can open it?

thanks

We can open it.

Okay, except maybe for the vacuum cleaner...not much chance of THAT interfering with any LED treatments in MY future.

Can you provide the link to that website where you got the info? I hope I can remember which page this is on so I can come back to it. I can't print it out right now.

Claire,

I think that's what I emailed Rachel.......at least it looks like it......also what I emailed you Shelly.

If you want me to email it to you Claire, pm me your email address. It's what I got from my doctor before we started the LED treatments. It goes over the protocol and the groups that are treated and what needs to be avoided during those treatments......aside from what Rachel posted already.

[Rachel--24]

Claire,

I think that's what I emailed Rachel.......at least it looks like it......also what I emailed you Shelly.

Its from the Explore article on Scotts website...its a PDF so I cant open it....but Miss Cruisin Spice was kind enough to email it to me.

I also have the same thing in in the paperwork given to me by the "girl". I have 4 pages of instructions....what to avoid for each LED group.

BTW....the girl is Desiree...but I dont want to call her "D" for obvious reasons!

Heres the link to Scotts page...the link for the LED article is near the bottom of the page.

Open Original Shared Link

Here is the link to the article but not sure if it'll work...

Open Original Shared Link

You should be given a list of things to avoid for each substance that is treated....because if you come in contact with the substance treated (i.e. using toothpaste/shampoo that contains sodium lauryl sulfate after the LED for sulfa) it can cancel out your treatment.

You are also suppossed to avoid the substance treated for 2 hours before the LED. Its 2 hours before and 25 hours after.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Donna,

I am glad you enjoyed the meeting! I knew it would be great! The pic is nice! You guys all look wonderful! Maybe next time more of us can hangout!

It is good to hear you do not get that passing out feeling anymore. What changed? Did you begin taking herbs or what? Or was it supplements of some kind that made the difference? I am feeling a bit better upon adding more salt, which means the low blood pressure probably has something to do with it.

The sleep issues are tough to deal with. I tried Valerian in high school. It did nothing but come out the other end the next morning. I do not think I digested any of it. No more of that!

I read somewhere eating ten cherries, almonds, or some pumpkins seeds has tryptophan that helps. It is a calming hormone. Carla mentioned it. Lots of people have a shortage of it. Peanut butter has it, too, but that stupid mold ruins that for us!

Dear Claire,

I cannot believe all of that smoke! My father smokes, and it is not easy to be around at all! I could not imagine being around a bunch of walking chimneys, when one is bad enough! The ears ringing could be related to the exposure. I hope it did not stir up the WNV again, either!

I bet you guys had fun yesterday! I know you probably did not get to visit for too long. You had to go catch a flight.

Tom needed to find a place to live. Donna probably had to go back to work. I know one thing that Sidekick of his cannot do!

It cannot view flashes!

That is terrible about the cold. You might have caught it from the plane ride. Most people catch them from there. A lot of travelers take Airborne, and really like it. It was on the gluten-free drugs site.

I am glad you will not have to worry about gluten at the spiritual retreat! I would never be able to take the meat off of a bun. I would get very sick. It is in my best interest to avoid that crap like the plague. Maybe there will be a place where I could go cook my own meals.

Dear tom,

Thank goodness you managed to get another flight! What a bummer that the first one was cancelled. The gathering was as great as I thought it would be! Maybe next time I can come! Meanwhile, I have a trillion things to do.

Dubya on crack? It could be! You never know who has done that stuff! I was shocked about some local doctors using marijuana! You learn something new everyday! A lot of it surprised me.

Hey, isn't someone on here from Helsinki? I believe I have written to her before. Is it aikiducky? No wait, she is from the Netherlands. Or is that in the Netherlands? European geography is not a strong suit compared to my U.S. geography skills.

So, did you find a nice place to live while in SJ? Did you go look at that house? It looked cozy. I would not want an apartment, because of landlords normally not giving a crap. My brother has not had a lot good experiences with that. He has been to many apartment complexes.

Dear Rachel,

Thank you for the Noni and Samento information. I would not have known that they do not work well if taken too close apart! Plus, those sound like good tools to fight Babs and Lyme! Nature's pharmacy is the best pharmacy! I think I would probably prefer the Noni you are taking over the juice.

Now I will know what all I need to be careful with if I get LED done! Maybe I will, too! If I get rich soon. That would be nice! Of course, I need to know what to be tested for first. Then, I can be treated. I will keep in mind not to use the stove without an oven mit!

ACV has antifungal properties? Wasn't it bad for yeast, though? Afterall, it is vinegar. I thought all vinegar was bad for that. I know no one with an ulcer should ever use it to help them lose weight, because my grandmother did that once. She was very sick!

Dear Andrea,

Thank you for the info on blue lights. Maybe we should try those around here! It cannot hurt. My eyes are very sensitive, anyway. They might not hurt my eyes.

I have the link on the Samento you provided in my favorites. Hopefully, I will not misplace it. I have so many, I need to put things in folders! Even then, I am not sure I will find things. The Health folder is particularly full.

Dear Carla,

I tried Valerian previously, too. It did nothing but give me the craps. No more of that stuff! I tried a number of things to help me sleep since I was a teenager. I will not take pills. When I take the Phenergan, it normally knocks me out. However, I take it as little as possible. It is for emergencies like glutenings only.

I tried a few remedies, but nothing really helped. It is like I am hyped up somehow. My Thyroid probably adds to this a lot. I have heard about tryptophan. It is good to help ease stress as well. Pumpkin seeds, peanut butter, and cherries are supposed to help with that.

Dear Judy,

Hello there! How are you? I am glad you spoke to Susie Q! I have been wondering how she has been! Tell her hi for me! I hope she comes back to Rachelville soon! I hope Bev and Rinne reappear also!

Dear Julie,

It is nice to meet you, too! I always thought netti pots were worth a try. I used to use a vaporizer for my allergies. The saline rinses sort of helped with headaches. I used to be hooked on that OTC nasal spray. Thank God I got off of that stuff! I found out it was burning up my nasal passages inside!

Ume plum vinegar sounds like a painful remedy for a sore throat! Can you say ouch? That is like when my grandmother told me Methyalate (sp?) was good for sore throats and cuts. Never again! She put that stuff on a cut on my finger once, and I screamed!

Dear Patti,

Another singer I love is Josh Groban. He sends me to such a wonderful place! My favorites of his are "My Confession" and "You Raise Me Up". (Don't go there, tom! I know what you are thinking!) I have his celiac disease. You just have to love that hair of his!

Sincerely,

Jin

[tom]

Our first Close Encounter of the Rachelville kind ! . . . . . . . . By the way Tom, your secret is safe with me, at least for today ! Gotta make you sweat a little .

CeRk #1 memorialized in avatar!! It was great to meet the two of you!

Secret? What secret? <wipes sweat from brow>

I'm in Santa Cruz now. I took a walk down by the beach, and wouldn't you know it, but I was surrounded by more smoke! It was one big party of bonfires.

No West Cliff Drive? Maybe I should've gone into more detail on the nice walking paths there . .. . (and no chance of bonfires )

[Rachel--24]

I talked to my acu about testing me for DMSA. It sounded like he didn't usually test people for DMSA, which I found curious. How will you be tested for DMSA? Dr. F usually uses his electro-dermal Vega testing machine. Donna and I were talking yesterday about how scared we were to take the chemical chelators. Do you think you would take the DMSA different than how it would be prescribed for normal mercury chelation?

For me everything is tested with kinesiology....not ART...but traditional muscle testing. Thats how my LED Dr. does all of the testing necessary for my LED treatments. They pretty much test *everything* like this.

I'm not scared to take the DMSA while under this kind of care because everything is tested ahead of time and I've already had the sulfa treatment so unless I didnt clear it the DMSA should be able to do its job. Also....I wont be taking the DMSA for a long period of time.

Since my whole body is being looked at...and not just one thing...it makes me feel better about how my body can handle things that I'm given for treatment. Everything is tested and my own body is giving its response as to whats ok and whats not ok. That makes me feel better about it....even moreso because I can actually *see* how my body responds to the items tested.

Heres an explanation of exactly how my treatments and supplements are determined.

Kinesiology, a form of muscle testing, is the key to developing accurate treatments. The first test is for open or blocked regulation. "Muscle testing done on a patient who has blocked regulation can give many incorrect results and is not reliable," he said.

He explained that after the patient's regulation is opened, the patient must be rechecked every few minutes during the entire session to make sure that regulation remains open. If regulation blocks after initially being open, the unaddressed causes of blocked regulation, especially joint misalignment must be explored.

"The most common causes of blocked regulation include metals (jewelry, belt buckles, under-wire bras, etc.) worn on the body, toxic emotions, geopathic stress, physical toxins, allergies, nutrient deficiencies, structural misalignment and focal organ toxicity."

Once regulation is open, four critical issues must be checked in order to get reliable information from subsequent kinesiologic evaluation, said Dr. Cowden. These include switching (which usually means that the patient has adrenal exhaustion), a subconscious conflict about deserving health, hypothalamic weakness, and fractured personality, (which means that a childhood emotional trauma has created a need for the patient to fragment a part of his subconscious personality in order to protect himself from the memory and associated emotions.

What is most important in resolving a fractured personality is recognizing its presence, and that the patient chooses to work towards resolving it.

Muscle testing may then commence looking for sulfa drugs, autoimmunity, other toxins, allergies, geopathic stress, electromagnetic fields, toxic foci, focal organ toxicity (also known as reverse organ spin), structural misaligments, and nutritional adequacy. A program is put together and tested for frequency and intervals between treatments. Detoxification supplements are determined by muscle testing.

I have an LED supplement sheet that will be given to me after each LED treatment. These are the detox supports that they use following LED...and changes are made if the patient doesnt test well for these things....or if something else will work better.

The sheet lists the supplements...the doses...the times of day they need to be taken and any notes on how they should be taken.

These are the supplements on the sheet..

Burbur

N-Acetyl Cysteine

L Glutathione

R Lipoic Acid

Lymph

Viscomforce

Hepatatox

Serofuloforce

Chlorella

DMSA

LED detox support drops <----this one starts *after* the 25 hours and is taken twice a day for 2 weeks following the LED.

For the Sulfa treatment all items were crossed off the list except for the Burbur, Chlorella and the LED detox support drops. Those were the 3 that I needed to take for this particular detox period.

I dont test well for chlorella AT ALL....so that was then replaced with something that did test well for me (Porphyrazyme). The Burbur was also replaced with Pinella because its better at addressing toxins in the brain....and I do have brainfog.

Different detox supports will be used for different treatments.

The instructions for DMSA say 100mg or 250 mg., taken at bedtime and taken every 3rd night.

Whether or not they use DMSA and at what dose is determined with muscle testing.

Yeah...people can react badly to it...just like with anything and I would not feel comfortable to take any of these things if I were going about it "blindly"...but I'm fine with it being done this way.

[Rachel--24]

Claire,

Heres some info. explaining why its important to use something like DMSA or other supplements (chlorella, modifilan, charcoal, etc) to grab onto the mercury you were exposed to during amalgam removal. Its not safe to use DMSA while there are still filings in place but once removed and if you test ok for it....its something that will really help get rid of the mercury.

Following amalgam removal oral chelation should be followed to chelate remaining mercury out your body. Mercury will stay in the blood about 6 weeks 'looking for trouble'. Some of it is excreted, but the more of it you capture in the first 6 weeks and expel, the better. After 6 weeks, mercury settles in your organs such as the brain, intestines, kidneys, liver, eyes, etc.

Anytime there is "loose" mercury in the blood...its good to get rid of it before it has the opportunity to be stored in your body and add to the total body burden.

This is exactly why some people can get really sick after unsafe removals or not taking any of the proper detox supplements following removals.

For me...I had unsafe removals and *NO* supplementation of any kind...in fact I was given antibiotics to take for 2 weeks following the removals!!

This is what happens when we're uninformed and trusting the regular dentists.

I didnt even know there was merury in my fillings at that time...thats how "unaware" I was about this stuff. So yeah...now I'm sick.

If someone is *already* sick before removals (even safe removals) things can get alot worse if they dont follow a detox program to get that mercury out asap. This is alot to do with why Lisa got worse....she wasnt taking anything...she was afraid to take charcoal or any of the other things necessary to get rid of the mercury that she was exposed to during the removals.

Even a tiny amount added to the body burden of someone whos already crossed their threshold can have a huge impact.

Also, whenever you do something to draw out mercury from the tissue or the cells....anything that causes your system to dump some mercury...you then have to have something there to catch it before it gets redistributed and stored again...and possibly in the brain.

During the time when the mercury has been "pulled" out of tissue and into the bloodstream, we have a wonderful "window of opportunity" to use nutritional supplements which are able to chemically combine with - bind with - the blood-borne mercury. The good thing about that is that once bound to one of these scavenging supplements, the mercury is no longer able to get back into other body tissues. It is excreted from the body!

Thats why following the LED for mercury...it will be beneficial for me to take the DMSA if I can tolerate it.

I'm always taking my charcoal because even taking high doses of minerals, saunas, exercise...things like that can all cause mercury to get released into the system. It would be much better if I could take chlorella but my body hates it right now.

It takes awhile for the body to get rid of the stored mercury...it takes months or years after the amalgams are removed. First you get rid of the stuff thats in the blood...then you start getting to the extracellular stuff..then the intracellular stuff.

The brain always comes last....you dont want to take things that start pulling mercury from the brain in the beginning. This is because the body stores the mercury in a certain way...so that there is some "balance". If you start with the brain and are still loaded up everywhere else...the body is going to redistribute mobilized mercury back into the brain...which is not good.

Its a process that doesnt happen overnight but can definately be sped up with LED, treatment of infections, chelation, detox support supplements, high protein diet...all that stuff helps the body clear out the mercury.

Also, after amalgams are removed the body starts to naturally detox itself of mercury....instead of storing it like it does when the amalgams are in place.

Because of the heavy loads in organs and tissue....after a period of time a person can start getting sick because there is more mercury being released into their system then the body can handle.

Sometimes several months after removals (especially unsafe ones) the body becomes overwhelmed with mercury and symptoms get much worse.

Many people get more sick some time after mercury is removed. Usually 6 to 9 months after removal and sometimes years later when it is too late to notice the connection. This is especially true if the removal is not done correctly and proper safe chelation protocols (metal removal) were not adhered too.

The body organs begin to detox mercury soon after removal, as opposed to try and store it as it did before, but often it cannot handle the large amounts stored in the tissues that are now being mobilised throughout the system.

This 'redistribution' of mercury can cause many symptoms and it is for this reason that safe oral mercury chelation is always necessary following mercury amalgam removal.

There is usually often a 'honey-moon' period for 3 months after removal where you feel better, then the organs begins to 'dump' mercury and many are at their worst 9 months after removal. With consistent oral chelation there is a slow but steady improvement thereafter.

I think its usually recommended that around 3 months after removals....some form of oral chelation should definately be started as the mercury starts getting dumped into the system after getting cleared from the blood. Of course you do want to be taking the detox supplements from the start.

I was obviously already sick when I went to a biological dentist to get my last 2 fillings out. I didnt notice any change at all in my symptoms once all the fillings were out but it was about 8 months later that my conditioned dramatically worsened and I lost alot of weight and became more sensitive to things. It was at that time that I thought maybe I was dying...and of course I had no idea it might have been that my body was dumping mercury.

This is probably exactly what happened since my body was free of the amalgams and started detoxing itself. I'm guessing if I had done a hair analysis during this time the levels might have been elevated. I did my testing while the last 2 amalgams were still in place and had LOW levels of mercury with minerals all out of balance.

The way I recovered from that severe increase in symptoms was to totally change my diet, no processed foods, all organic foods and avoidance of chemicals....no alcohol...no cigarettes. It took some of the burden off and would have allowed for my body to detox a little better.

Last...its definately important to know what infections you have and to be treating them.....especially Lyme. This is why...

Lyme symptoms worsen during and after successful mercury detoxification

Mercury (Hg) was successfully used as a treatment for spirochetes prior to discovery of antibiotics. After eliminating Hg, the microbes recover before the host immune system does.

So if a person has Lyme and has never been sick from it....detoxing the mercury can allow that to change dramatically.

This is one of my biggest concerns but I'm thankful that we know its there and hopefully I'll never get to that point.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear tom,

Where are you now? I assume still in SJ. You are probably at the Jazz Fest about now. Isn't that all weekend? I bet it is nice!

Dear Rachel,

I hope the LED worked and got rid of the sulfates for you. I know those have been complicating things. Your pathways are still blocked, aren't they? I know that is making your mercury overload harder to get rid of. Maybe the DMSA will help if you are able to tolerate it.

I probably have mercury. I had those vaccines, then there is all that fish I like to eat. A recent article said Dr. Klinghardt said to eat cilantro with it to prevent absorbing the mercury. The thing is, they did not say how much. You would nto happen to have an idea, would you?

Sincerely,

Jin

[Rachel--24]

I probably have mercury. I had those vaccines, then there is all that fish I like to eat. A recent article said Dr. Klinghardt said to eat cilantro with it to prevent absorbing the mercury. The thing is, they did not say how much. You would nto happen to have an idea, would you?

I think its recommended that you take chlorella when eating fish. Chlorella absorbs the mercury for excretion much better than cilantro would. I'm not sure on how much to take though since I cant tolerate chlorella anyway.

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Rachel,

I do not know if I could tolerate chlorella. Plus, what if mine is trapped like yours? I do not have any way of knowing. Is it better not to do anything until you know? Or should you try stuff out? I do not want to cause more harm.

Sincerely,

Jin

[dlp252]

Donna, the lady at Wild Oats printed out a page for me from their computer ... it says to take 200 mg. 5HTP at 9:15, then 400 mg. at 11:15. I'm trying that tonight ... I'm also taking the melatonin and valerian with it.

Egads, I'm in bed by 9:15, and still asleep at 11:15, lol. Hum, I wonder if I could take it if I wake up at midnight. I think the eating at bedtime is now keeping me from GETTING to sleep which is not usually my problem. I need to experiement with WHAT I eat and maybe eat it earlier.

Last night I took the melatonin, valerian and L-Tryptophan. I couldn't get to sleep, then I woke up at 1AM, then again at 3AM. I went right back to sleep at 1, but didn't fall asleep again till about 5 after the second wake-up.

I think I woke up every hour on the hour last night.

I used to be able to handle the occasional bad night sleep, but now it's every night. I can't remember the last time I slept through the night and it's causing me to not feel as good as I was. I definately need to address this. I left a message two days ago at my LLMD's office, but didn't hear back .... I wonder if she just called something in or if I need to call them back Monday.

Yeah, I can't wait until Tuesday so I can talk it over with the LLMD.

I used to take HTP-5. It was great at first, then not so good . I had to stop taking it because it wasn't good for me anymore. I think you have to be really careful about the amount you take because you can take too much. I forget how it works, but I think maybe it builds up the hormones in your body. Can you get someone to test it on you to see if it's still good for you? I take my magnesium right before bed, 300 mg. My problem is getting up about an hour or two before I'm supposed to get up. It seems to have gotten better lately, and I'm not sure why. Maybe the LED treatment? If I had to be at work as early as you, I don't know that I would get enought sleep!

Yeah, I think my early schedule has something to do with it. Lyme is probably responsible for a huge portion of it...in my BioSET testing, the lyme so far has been affecting nearly everything, but especially krebs cycyle (which has to do with sleep), pitutary, thyroid, adrenals, etc.

Okay, so my experiment for tonight is to eat something different at bed and to take 300 mg of magnesium, lol. The 5-HTP was just tested about 3 weeks ago by the BioSET lady...she even said I could up the dose. I've been taking it and the melatonin for a long time though, so maybe it would be good to just give it a rest. I do know that when they tested my adrenals, melatonin was low...but that was tested in November.

Your new avatar makes me laugh ! After all our talk about your cruise trips, I'm just gonna call you Cruising Spice now!

It is good to hear you do not get that passing out feeling anymore. What changed? Did you begin taking herbs or what? Or was it supplements of some kind that made the difference? I am feeling a bit better upon adding more salt, which means the low blood pressure probably has something to do with it.

The sleep issues are tough to deal with. I tried Valerian in high school. It did nothing but come out the other end the next morning. I do not think I digested any of it. No more of that!

I read somewhere eating ten cherries, almonds, or some pumpkins seeds has tryptophan that helps. It is a calming hormone. Carla mentioned it. Lots of people have a shortage of it. Peanut butter has it, too, but that stupid mold ruins that for us!

Not sure what changed...I think the adrenals are starting to come back, so maybe that's it. I've always eaten TONS (and I'm not kidding) of salt so that was never my problem. Must be the herbs and supplements...I'm taking lots of stuff to support the adrenals and lots of stuff for energy. Plus we've been addressing the lyme and mercury with herbals and supplements so maybe everything is just starting to work better, lol.

I do eat turkey (that was my bedtime snack) which has tryptophan in it and the 5-HTP has it in there too. I can't take valerian either...started reacting to that so I stopped taking it a few months ago.

Sometimes several months after removals (especially unsafe ones) the body becomes overwhelmed with mercury and symptoms get much worse.

Yeah, Dr. A (dentist) told me to wait six months before doing any kind of chelation. I think he had this in mind when he said that. I'm just passing the 6 month mark.

[Rachel--24]

Dear Rachel,

I do not know if I could tolerate chlorella. Plus, what if mine is trapped like yours? I do not have any way of knowing. Is it better not to do anything until you know? Or should you try stuff out? I do not want to cause more harm.

Sincerely,

Jin

No....you should not do anything without knowing whats going on. You should be under a Dr.'s care and guidance before messing around with mercury detox.

Some people do this stuff on their own and I think its fine for people who arent sick and are just doing whats necessary to prevent sickness from occuring....but for people who are already sick I think its best to work with a knowledgable Dr.