Mercury!

[Guest adamssa]

happy new year!

i had my throid checked out and found out i do have some mild form of hypo. while there, i asked for advice for my horrific sinus issues. which i have tried everything for. my (holistic) doctors did some nutritonal balancing and said they think it's caused by mercury, of all things, and that mercury is probably what slowed down my thyroid. i was skeptical at first, but now reading about how mercury can affect the body i am pretty sure that's accurate. i've also been an emotional and mental basket case lately and had awful brain fog. --which can come from either.

i was just wondering if anyone here has succesfully detoxed themselves or recovred from Mercuyr posioning of any degree? i wonder if all my problems are caused by a major lot of it, or if it's just the combination of everything altogether that's been making me so miserable. i know i have lots of teeth fillings, and i hope i won't have to have them removed to feel better (so many.) since taking the thyroid supplements my body temp, fatigue, and anxiety seem to be subsiding. sometimes the brain fog seems to lift a little sometimes not. they gave me a homeopathic and glutathiane for the mercury, i worry that that's not enough. i don't know that i can make it through another semester with my cognitive abilities so uh what was the word i was looking for?

thanks,

Sara

[georgie]

I will be interested to hear how you go. My Dr told me the same as you and did a hair analysis. But that came back as normal so she tried to tell me I still need all my fillings removed anyway. I hate the dentist and it would nearly kill me to do this - so have not yet. Meanwhile my Armour thyroid meds have got to their correct dose after 6 months and I feel well. So ... hope I do not go to the dentist now

[mamaw]

Yes, you should have the mercury fillings removed asap.It makes a big difference. Also you can do the bloodtest to see what your mercury level is.My son is going through chelation & the pill DMSA to remove mercury & lead from his brain as I post this message. His levels showed nothing in his blood but after many high-tech doctors, they came to the conclusion that this was not dx'd in a timely manner & it settled in his brain.The reference range for mercury is <3. Taking Vit C attaches to lead & mercury & helps to rid the body of it. Heavy metals are deadly & extremely hard to rid the body of. He lost 7 1/2 months of work in 06 from heavy metals...

I know a little girl age 2 1/2 who is under going treatment for lead & mercury. She was so sick & her parents are just in shock how she could have very high levels in her tiny body. That combo is a death sentence for many.

please have your fillings removed.

blessings

mamaw

[georgie]

Do all people get problems from mercury? Its just hard to work out if to believe...My 85 yo mother has a mouth full of amalgams and is fitter than people of 60. I doubt if the fillings could be removed from mine anyway - it would mean losing most of my back teeth which seems extreme when I don't have a test that can prove this.

[mamaw]

Georgie

I don't think everyone has problems with mercury in their mouths but it is a heavy metal & it does cause illness.It is kinda like people who smoke everyday 3 packs of cigarettes, never cancer or any illness, then you find a non-smoker with lung cancer. Everyones immune systems is different.

I had all my molars filled with mercury fillings since I was a kid. I had them removed. Alot of times when fillings have been done for years the tooth will start to decay around the filling & they need to be replaced anyway.

Sara is having immune responses & that is why I agree with her doctor to remove the fillings. My son did not get lead & mercury poisioning from his one mercury filling but again the high- tech guys said get it removed at once...

The older generation seems to have some mighty strong genes.We have been fed differently than are parents & this generation seems to be paying the piper.

I think it will be a personal choice for you. Most alternative doctors request that mercury fillings be removed...

blerssings

mamaw

[CarlaB]

I had my amalgam fillings taken out over 15 years ago, and my most recent hair analysis showed mercury. I used to eat a lot of fish, but it's probably also from the mercury I didn't detox after removing the fillings. I went to a dentist that specializes in mercury removal and uses special equipment to safeguard you and him from the mercury.

I think that it affects those of us who have weakened immune systems from other illnesses. If we were perfectly healthy, I would bet we could properly detox the mercury.

I am VERY glad I had mine removed. My Lyme Disease went into "remission" for over 10 years afterward. I am terrified of the dentist, but had it done anyway. Don't let fear of the dentist keep you from doing it ... dentists can work with that ... most will prescribe valium to help you with the anxiety.

[ArtGirl]

I don't think this is something that one can do on one's own. It takes a dental specialist who knows how to do the chelation. They have to go at this in stages so that they reduce the likelihood of more mercury entering the bloodstream when the fillings are removed.

When my older fillings need to be replaced (I'm 60 now) I am adament at having non-mercury fillings. Any crowns I now get are all porcelain. I don't think I have a mercury toxicity but I don't want to add anymore to my mouth than is already there.

[georgie]

I don't think this is something that one can do on one's own. It takes a dental specialist who knows how to do the chelation. They have to go at this in stages so that they reduce the likelihood of more mercury entering the bloodstream when the fillings are removed.

This is another area that I need explained. Over the years I have had many repairs to these huge amalgams - but never any special precautions. Why is removing mercury amalgams different to a patch job?

Its not so much the fear of the dentist. Its a physical diffculty of opening my jaw. I have TMJ problems and can barely open my jaw at the dentists. The last few years they have used a bite appliance and that helps a bit - but its extremely painful and scary. I nearly had the jaw lock on one occasion.

If I could see proof of the poisoning it would be easier for me to decide. How is the chelation done? My Dr seems to do this.I haven't asked her yet - how. All these visits are a 4 hour drive for me too. So ......

[CarlaB]

I don't think this is something that one can do on one's own. It takes a dental specialist who knows how to do the chelation. They have to go at this in stages so that they reduce the likelihood of more mercury entering the bloodstream when the fillings are removed.

I completely agree. I had mine done by a specialist and he oversaw the chelation/supplement protocol.

[CarlaB]

This is another area that I need explained. Over the years I have had many repairs to these huge amalgams - but never any special precautions. Why is removing mercury amalgams different to a patch job?

It's actually no different at all. It's just most dentist do not consider amalgams to be toxic, so take no precautions.

I am having my TMJ fixed. I wore a splint 24/7 to correct my jaw placement. I even ate with it on. Now I have braces to move my teeth to where they need to be to hold my jaw here. I was in very bad pain from the TMJ dysfunction and my jaw cracked every time I moved it -- thousands of times per day. I eventually learned how far I could open it before it locked open and didn't open it that far.

Now I have NO PAIN at all!! My jaw rarely cracks. All the treatment was covered under medical, not dental insurance. It's been worth all the trouble. I will have to wear an appliance at night to prevent me from grinding ... I have one right now at night that actually works with my braces.

[Guest adamssa]

good news! my mother tells me my fillings are all porcelin, I had thought maybe they were just painted white or something. so maybe the mercury really does reside mostly in my nose. it would mess with your brain to be breathing in mercury.

i was thinking about it, and my brain fog issues began when i began having really bad gallbladder issues, that is when my body lost a detoxing organ. after the removal of the gallbladder was when i first had sinus troubles, of course exacerbating the fog issues.

i have another nutritional balancing appointment this week and i'm going to ask her if she can tell if there's mercury anywhere else and if she recommends other detoxing stuff. i'm just praying that it's only in my sinuses because i don't want it to take forever to detox. i am also giving up fish though, that may help. i was eating lots of tuna this fall, because it's so easy to digest.

[georgie]

good news! my mother tells me my fillings are all porcelin, I had thought maybe they were just painted white or something. so maybe the mercury really does reside mostly in my nose. it would mess with your brain to be breathing in mercury.

That good news ! Wish it was for me !

Your sinus and foggy thinking could be caused by your hypo. How borderline is it ? Have you had all the tests and is your lab and Dr aware of the new ranges ?

I have worn splints in the past and they didn't do a lot for me. The teeth are bad - and nothing can correct that now.They grew too 'short' and don't mesh properly. While all this was happening - my TMJ got damaged.

Still not sure that I can do this ....

[CarlaB]

Georgie, were the splints the kind you even wear to eat? It's wearing it full-time, even eating or talking, that re-trains your muscles to hold your jaw in the right position. Then, when you're finished, the splint gets manipulated so your teeth "grow" back together. Right now, my back teeth on both sides have grown significantly and the rest of my teeth don't touch till you get to the front ones. Now those middle ones will lengthen. Your teeth actually lengthen till they touch the opposing tooth. You end up with longer teeth in the end.

So, by the time you're done with the splint, none of the back teeth touch at all until they start lengthening again. It's at that point that braces move the teeth where they need to go so your jaw stays put.

My bite was VERY bad when I started out. It's a couple year process, but I found it worth it, even though I'm wearing braces at 43!! I had a LOT of pain, there was no way I could go on without treating it.

[georgie]

Georgie, were the splints the kind you even wear to eat?

The first and most comfortable was that type - and loved it to death. It was made by a Prof and he has now retired. Long time ago. Eventually it wore out - and my local dentist made a night time only one that was terrible and I couldn't wear. The dentist I see now made another as an emerg as one of my back molars had a pocket gum infection and this was a way to allow natural healing ( to stop night time grinding ). It was a night time 'bugs bunny ' style appliance that worked well - but also was temporary and I have stopped wearing it.

I have never heard of adult teeth growing to fit the bite. My molars are all amalgam too - so perhaps that is why it wasn't mentioned. They are basically dead teeth.

Hmm.. My new dentist is a senior lecturer in dentistry at local Uni. But ??? he supports mercury...

[dlp252]

Hi all, I've been following this discussion with interest since I'm in the process of having my amalgams removed. I've had half my mouth done so far, and next week will do the third section. My dentist follows good protocol, but I don't know if he does the chelation too.

I'm interested to see if this relieves any of my remaining symptoms, some of which are also indicative of thyroid issues.

[Guest adamssa]

That good news ! Wish it was for me !

Your sinus and foggy thinking could be caused by your hypo. How borderline is it ? Have you had all the tests and is your lab and Dr aware of the new ranges ?

---it's crazy how much hypo and mercury symptoms can overlapOpen Original Shared Link so it's hard for me to know which is (if one is) the root of it all.

the progession of the worsening of everything started with 1st hypoglycemia, 2nd brain fog that wouldn't go away, 3rd lack of coordination, 4bad skin 5 anxiety,/jumpy sensitive to noise 6 worsening feelings of depression 7 fatigue, 8 apathy. 9 return of gi symptoms that had gone away with gluten. oh and all of it was preceded by the sinuses. while i know that i find all these health problems depressing, i feel certain that the emotional problems are caused by an underlying health issue. b

my dr. has the tests and said it's not the gland itself but the way it's converted. first they want me to try taking something called thyroid complex and thytrophin, and if that doesn't work they'll have me take armour. i guess there is reason to hope that the supplements will be enough, because in the two days since i've started taking them my gi symptoms are gone and my fatigue has noticeably improved....if i need to actually be on armour though I just want to start taking it because i want to think clearly.

[CarlaB]

The first and most comfortable was that type - and loved it to death. It was made by a Prof and he has now retired. Long time ago. Eventually it wore out - and my local dentist made a night time only one that was terrible and I couldn't wear. The dentist I see now made another as an emerg as one of my back molars had a pocket gum infection and this was a way to allow natural healing ( to stop night time grinding ). It was a night time 'bugs bunny ' style appliance that worked well - but also was temporary and I have stopped wearing it.

I have never heard of adult teeth growing to fit the bite. My molars are all amalgam too - so perhaps that is why it wasn't mentioned. They are basically dead teeth.

Hmm.. My new dentist is a senior lecturer in dentistry at local Uni. But ??? he supports mercury...

All my teeth in the back are filled, so I know they lengthen even when they have fillings, so they must grow from the bottom, not the top. It seems like if the first was that type, if they had made your teeth hold your jaw in the new position that it might have helped. This type of work is done by an ortho. A denstist can make you one to wear as a night guard, but those never helped me. My facial muscles were really sore the first couple weeks I had the splint and I had to relearn completely how to chew as my jaw was positioned very differently.

Adult teeth will erupt again ... that's why if you lose a tooth you have to have something put in it's place, otherwise the opposing tooth will grow in to fill the spot.

[CarlaB]

This is not the ortho that I see, but this website explains the splint therapy that I had. My ortho did not have the computer they mention.

They have other info on this page about surgery ... I never considered that an option.

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[RiceGuy]

From what I've read, apple pectin is a good detoxifier of heavy metals. I don't know how many apples you'd have to eat, nor for how long, but I know apple pectin can be purchased at various health food stores and online too of course. Whether that is as good as eating apples is another matter. I've not investigated it.

[dlp252]

From what I've read, apple pectin is a good detoxifier of heavy metals. I don't know how many apples you'd have to eat, nor for how long, but I know apple pectin can be purchased at various health food stores and online too of course. Whether that is as good as eating apples is another matter. I've not investigated it.

My doctor has me taking pectasol which is citrus (I think) pectin...she wants me to take it for a few days around each of my removals. I'll look for apple pectin as well. Anyway, she said it actually binds with any mercury that's being released by the removal to keep it from finding it's way into surrounding tissue.

[mamaw]

Someone asked how to check for heavy metals. First you can do the bloodtest, 2nd. a doctor gives a small amount of EDTA IV.then you do a 24 hour urine collection. It takes about 3 weeks to get results back.

I too went to a dentist who specializes in removal of mercury fillings.... to this day there are dentist who find nothing wrong with mercury in the mouth. Because it is a cheaper treatment alot of people still go along with the doctor suggesting that filling.

Wow, I too have TMJ ( happened after a bad car wreck) my dentist will work on me for 3 to 5 min. & stop , giving me a break or else my jaw locks up. A chiropractor worked on my jaw & has shown me how to adjust my jaw when it bothers me now. I work inside & on the outside & it does help. My dentist chuckles when I have more than one area to repair as he knows I will be adjusting my jaw... When working on the inside ,it always brings tears to my eyes...

I also agree that mercury & thyroid do not do well together...two devils playing havoc on the body.

I also find that for me when I'm stressed my TMJ is much worst....

mamaw

[CarlaB]

Someone asked how to check for heavy metals. First you can do the bloodtest, 2nd. a doctor gives a small amount of EDTA IV.then you do a 24 hour urine collection. It takes about 3 weeks to get results back.

I too went to a dentist who specializes in removal of mercury fillings.... to this day there are dentist who find nothing wrong with mercury in the mouth. Because it is a cheaper treatment alot of people still go along with the doctor suggesting that filling.

Wow, I too have TMJ ( happened after a bad car wreck) my dentist will work on me for 3 to 5 min. & stop , giving me a break or else my jaw locks up. A chiropractor worked on my jaw & has shown me how to adjust my jaw when it bothers me now. I work inside & on the outside & it does help. My dentist chuckles when I have more than one area to repair as he knows I will be adjusting my jaw... When working on the inside ,it always brings tears to my eyes...

I also agree that mercury & thyroid do not do well together...two devils playing havoc on the body.

I also find that for me when I'm stressed my TMJ is much worst....

mamaw

It's good that you know how to put your jaw back together! I had a chiropractor who showed me that, too, but the thing was, my problem was from a bad bite, so the muscles never knew where to hold my jaw to begin with, so it didn't work for me. Like so many other health issues, there is just not one clear cut answer.

[Nevadan]

Re mercury toxicity it is important to differentiate the different forms of mercury. Elemental mercury (as in a thermometer) is not absorbed very well by the body so its toxicity is low even if swallowed. This is also the form that is used in dental fillings. However, elemental mercury vapor is readily absorbed into the body and removal of old dental fillings could generate vapor due to the heat generated by the drilling, therefore it is generally advised that exising fillings are probably relatively safe and are better left alone. The really dangerous form of mercury is in organic mercury compounds, particularly methyl mercury. This is the form that accumulates in animals, particularly in fish. Even in this case, recent studies have concluded that the benefits of eating fish in moderation as one of the best sources of omega-3's fatty acids with respect to numerous health benefits of omega-3's outweighs the risk of organic mercury toxicity - even for pregnate women. ( Open Original Shared Link )

On the other hand there are a few documented cases of people who are hypersensitive to all forms of mercury including elemental forms but their frequency is low.

Until the next mercury study is published....

George

[georgie]

How much vapour is free when just drinking hot drinks or by hot food? And if the old mercury amalgams are being repaired - should that be done under certain safety conditions? Is the metallic taste - a sign of mercury vapour ? Still trying to work this out

[dlp252]

How much vapour is free when just drinking hot drinks or by hot food? And if the old mercury amalgams are being repaired - should that be done under certain safety conditions? Is the metallic taste - a sign of mercury vapour ? Still trying to work this out

Yes, I believe if they are being repaired they should follow safety precautions. I think many of my *problems* started after I had a lot of dental work done which wasn't done correctly. When I was around 11 or 12, I had a mouth full of cavities...I think 11 in all. They did all those fillings in just a couple of office visits. Well, about 10 or 12 years ago the fillings started getting old and were causing some problems so I needed to have them replaced (old school dentist, no protection). Then the tooth would crack and I'd have to have it drilled again...it wasn't long after that process that I started getting really sick.

The metallic taste can be a lot of things...I have it and my dentist (new dentist, lol) thinks that in my case it is because of the mercury. For precautions he keeps cool water/air on the tooth as he is working. There is also a HUGE vacuum hose right next to my nose and mouth, sucking as many of the vapors out as they can--that air is vented to the outside of the building. He uses a rubber guard called a dam which fits very snuggly around the tooth and prevents chips of the amalgam from going into my mouth.

I should say also that MANY, MANY people have lots of dental work done with no problems, so the drilling and redrilling isn't always a problem, but there are some of us who are just going to have a problem with it.

I've read about the vapor released when eating or drinking hot foods, but can't remember how much is released.