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CarlaB Enthusiast
I'm sorry she's having such a rough time, but I think it is your confirmation. Has she gone the 4 weeks yet? When do she retest?

She's not getting retested ... her response to abx is what they're looking at for confirmation. Since she felt somewhat better when she started them (her headaches went away mostly, but she had some other symptoms show up more frequently), then herxed, that's the confirmation.

Morgan told me when Chloe started herxing that Chloe was herxing ... she knew because she was being totally unreasonable and was sitting in her closet crying. The only time Morgan had seen such unreasonable behavior before was when I was herxing. :o:lol:

I asked Morgan why she was trying to reason with her anyway???

Chloe's doing a little better today, but I think it will take a couple days for her to pull out of it completely.

Our next phone consult is Tuesday. We go to NY on 9/11 :oB) . Chloe is due to start chelating Tuesday, but she was having some major air hunger during her herx, so I'm suspecting they might want to start babesia treatment ... she hasn't been diagnosed with babs yet, but she gets the night sweats and now the air hunger.

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dlp252 Apprentice

Wow, REALLY busy day today! :(

Okay, question -- when you have a post all written out and the board tells you there are too many quotes or too many emoticons, how do you split that post in half? I see you guys do it, but when I try to highlight, then "cut", my computer doesn't give me the option to cut when I right click.

I move the second part of my post to Word (just in case I lose something), then hit "post". Then after the 20 second waiting period, I post the second half (which I get from my word doc).

Hi Donna - I'm wondering whether the key word at the top is "Excess".

There's a humongous difference to me betw "avoiding fats" and "avoiding *excess* fats".

I'm inclined to think that your diet may need VERY little change w.r.t. fats.

Not sure of the current nutbutter situation (I think back on), and while they DO have fat, the type in almonds, for instance, is THE healthiest possible fat. Better than other nuts, etc etc. (According to numerous articles I've come across in a wide variety of publications)

So I'd say, unless you're opening multiple jars at once to <blehhh> DRINK the oil collected at the top, there's nearly zero chance, IMHO, nutbutters qualify as EXCESS fat.

Wouldn't most ppl that that "detox diet" info is aimed at be coming off a more normal american diet, flush w/ fats?

Unless u had plans for a well-marbled steak (laughable I'll assume), I'd reconsider what could be labeled "excess".

Well, I'm pretty sure most people would consider my fat intake excess... :lol: I regularly have 50-60% of my calories coming from fat. It's all good fat, except for that well-marbled steak, which I eat TONS of. Not quite on the multiple jars of nut butters, but close. I finished one jar of almond butter this week and have started on my cashew butter. :ph34r:

Anyway, the detox diet wasn't for anything specific except to help my liver get ready for chelation/de-lyming/de-molding, etc. The foods are just helpful for detoxification, but not necessary. There are a few I don't eat regularly that I can add, like parsley... stuff like that.

It doesn't sound like you really need to worry about your diet too terribly much. Was this for 3 days you said.

I also think it's a good idea to practice with the mic.

Well, it's written for 7 days, but I think she really means for me to follow it all the time as these foods are generally good for us anyway.

Yes, depending on who the sound guy is...there is one who turns my mic up...WAY UP...even singing with the group I can hear myself and it's a little freaky...to hear myself BY myself will be very freaky if he's on sound, LOL. He does that because I sing very low, and it's hard to get a lot of volume, so he turns me up.

so just a quick hi before the stupid internet goes out AGAIN!!!! harrumph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid AT&T! harrumph!

It IS a SCARY place where NO-ONE can here you scream!! :o

....be brave Susan.......

:lol:

Our next phone consult is Tuesday. We go to NY on 9/11. Chloe is due to start chelating Tuesday, but she was having some major air hunger during her herx, so I'm suspecting they might want to start babesia treatment ... she hasn't been diagnosed with babs yet, but she gets the night sweats and now the air hunger.

:o on the 9/11! Can't wait to hear about the consult and chelation.

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CarlaB Enthusiast
I move the second part of my post to Word (just in case I lose something), then hit "post". Then after the 20 second waiting period, I post the second half (which I get from my word doc).

The problem I'm having is when I right click on the part I want to cut, I am not given the option to cut, copy or anything else. So, I have no way to move it anywhere. How do you copy that part of the post?

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The problem I'm having is when I right click on the part I want to cut, I am not given the option to cut, copy or anything else. So, I have no way to move it anywhere. How do you copy that part of the post?

I don't try to cut...I just highlight what I want to move (the 2nd half), copy (CTRL+C) then paste it into a Word doc (CTRL+V)...then while the stuff in the posting window is still highlighted, I just delete it. Then when the flood control thing is up, I hit reply again and copy the stuff from Word into the posting window... clear as mud isn't it!? :blink:

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AndreaB Contributor
Chloe's doing a little better today, but I think it will take a couple days for her to pull out of it completely.

Our next phone consult is Tuesday.

That's the nature of the herxes isn't it.

I'll look foward to updates now and in September. :D

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not everyday...woops :ph34r: I've been 'Racheling them almost everday' :blink::o

Is that not good?

I feel so much better after a soak esp...in my joints..heck all over..and the tub looks dirty

Judy

Judy.....its no problem taking the baths daily. You can take them as often as you want. :)

I'll take whatever report you can give me. I'm also sure that once you get some detoxing going that you'll be able to do the ASYRA scan.

I had a message from Amy's nurse on my cell phone from like 3 weeks ago. I had forgotten about it but finally listened to it all the way through yesterday. She said she was gonna be running the ASYRA the following day (3 weeks ago) and then it would be quite some time until they will actually get a chance to look over the results.

Soooo....eventually I will get Asyra results from Dr. Amy. She has to use my saliva because obviously her machine is up there in the clinic. My Dr. here does not have an Asyra so whatever results I get will be from Amy. My Dr. here will use other methods of testing prior to LED.

I also woulnd't mind a Scott update after you've found out how he's doing.

I dont know how frequently he was gonna have the treatments but I'm pretty sure he got started this week. I'm hoping he gets good results but I'll let you know next time I hear from him. :)

Part of your wait is the weekend and those always seem to go by quickly. :D

Yeah...the weekend will be over as soon as it starts....then its the beginning of the week that will drag out. :rolleyes:

Dang...is it the 25th yet?? :P

Michelle is really excited too....actually alot of people are. I got everyone at my work really excited over these treatments too. :D

Heck...even customers are excited for me!!!!

Ummm....yeah...I guess I have a big mouth. :lol:

Michelle is a little bit scared though...but she said she would be scared with the start of *any* kind of treatment thats gonna mobilize the metals. She said even though shes a little worried she knows that I have to start somewhere....so overall there is more excitement then anything else. :)

OMG....I have now purchased 3 containers of those cookies!!! :ph34r: I ate one full box yesterday...and purchased two more fresh outta the oven today. :D

I think everyone is still in shock from watching me continuously eat these cookies and not getting sick. :huh:

Chloe's doing a little better today, but I think it will take a couple days for her to pull out of it completely.

Awww....I hope Chloe feels better but also glad that she's been diagnosed and is getting treatment. :)

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AndreaB Contributor
Soooo....eventually I will get Asyra results from Dr. Amy. She has to use my saliva because obviously her machine is up there in the clinic. My Dr. here does not have an Asyra so whatever results I get will be from Amy. My Dr. here will use other methods of testing prior to LED.

They used a snippet of Seth's hair for his. They say it's not as accurate as holding the probes but it gives them something to run off of.

I'm excited for you too........25th here we come......now!

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Rachel's successfully racheling cookies--all's right with the world! :D

The 25th will be here before ya know it ;)

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It sounds like there is a lot you are sensitive to. Do you need to completely avoid them? How does that work? Or does it just show you are sensitized to it? The part about wheat being a recreational drug was not too shocking, considering the opiod effects it has on some individuals. I read somewhere on the forum a while back about how some people have hallucinations and things from gluten!

Jin, My list seemed kind of long, but when it was broken down into 5 treatments, that seemed totally manageable. You only have to avoid the group you are being treated for for 24 1/2 hours. Don't ask me how they get the time worked out!

My understanding, which is limited on this stuff, is that it works on an energetic level, which then affects the physical. It doesn't necessarily mean that you have what you are being treated for or even are currently sensitive to what you are being treated for. I think it means that you have some kind of energetic residual to these things.

I don't miss gluten at all now that I am off it, but I used to eat wheat three times a day at every meal. I think it took a good year and a half being totally off gluten to not miss it anymore, and that was 7 years after severly reducing my gluten intake. So yeah, I was probably addicted to it :ph34r: . I see how addicted my stepsons are to their wheat snacks, but it's so prevalent in our society.

The detox diet is just including foods known to promote detox and to avoid stuff that detracts...so it's actually food, and pretty much my regular diet anyway...I'll just be adding some stuff like parsley and asparagus and maybe a little cilantro, garlic, etc...stuff like that.

Donna, my dentist who is removing my amalgams said that asparagus, cilantro, and garlic were all foods that help chelate mercury. I was surprised about asparagus, and I eat a lot of it. Beans, like black beans and pinto beans, were the other chelating type food. Not lentils though.

AAM: I'm very tired today :( . Lots of stress at work yesterday and stress with DH today with the infertility stuff. Jin, what did you say about mercury going retrograde? Everyone lost it at work yesterday :huh: . The kicker was the a** chewing I got from my director about not being current with all my e-mails. I bought every evil gluten and dairy free candy and dessert I can eat to ease the stress :ph34r: . Funny, it didn't really help <_< .

Claire

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I'm very tired today :( . Lots of stress at work yesterday and stress with DH today with the infertility stuff.

Hugs Claire...Hopefully tomorrow will be better. :)

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My understanding, which is limited on this stuff, is that it works on an energetic level, which then affects the physical. It doesn't necessarily mean that you have what you are being treated for or even are currently sensitive to what you are being treated for. I think it means that you have some kind of energetic residual to these things.

Hmmm....I've been trying to understand the scientificness behind LED for awhile now. I have to read it over and over again to retain it and to make sense of it. I dont know if I totally "get it" yet....but this is my understanding thus far.

I'll make an attempt to try and explain it but not sure if it will make alot of sense. :unsure:

Its all broken down from one article that I read.

I think that LED does work on an energetic level. Its basically doing what biochemical treatments can do but without the use of the drugs....and in a shorter amount of time. The toxins that you are treated for in LED are physically present in the body...they are specific toxins that are stored in various areas of the body...but removed on an energetic level.

Homeopathy is based on scientific proof that "vibrational exchange" is the language of biochemistry.

When we take vitamins, hormones, etc...our cells have specific receptors for these things and they work by triggering a change within the cell.

There would not likely be receptors in the cell membranes for pharmaceuticals....so drugs would not work by binding with the cell. Instead, drugs would work by getting close enough to the cells that its frequencies are picked up and responded to....a "vibrational exchange".

The concept is that the vibrational exchange is the mechanism of our biochemistry and physiology.

If this were true...then they wouldnt need to actually give you the therapeutic drug....instead they could just give you the exact "frequency" of that same molecule.

In homeopathy they dont give you the molecule that emits the desired frequency...instead they *just* give you its frequency...in a concentrated form.

The homeopathic preparations used in LED contain only the frquencies that were once emitted from a therapeutic agent.

Basically they take a solution of a therapeutic agent and dilute it over and over again...until there are no molecules left over from the original substance. All that would be left is the "frequency" that was given off by that molecule...and the frequency is now in a more concentrated form.

Its the frequency that gets the job done in the first place and the more diluted the preparation...the more concentrated the frequencies are....thus making the effects of the homeopathic preparation more powerful.

Dr. Benveniste demonstrated that the frequency given off from a given therapeutic agent could be recorded, digitized, e-mailed across the Atlantic, and then "played" to a biological system to generate a biological effect - the same effect that would occur if the original molecule was administered in intact form.

This is digital homeopathy. In digital homeopathy it's all about the frequency; its not about the molecule that emits the frequency.

This is basically how certain devices (like ASYRA) work. Thousand of frequencies are stored in the hard drive of the computer and are then transmitted to you during testing.

If a particular applied frequency comes across a molecule or structure that exactly matches its vibrational signature, then resonance occurs.

The resistance across your body to that particular frequency will increase, and there will be a voltage drop in the returning signal. This allows Asyra to register that a particular entity or condition is present within your body.

Asyra wont diagnose specific disease....instead it diagnoses abnormalities and toxic conditions that lead to disease...the underlying causes of disease states.

It can identify "toxic foci" in the body....these are the areas where the toxins are stored in high concentration.....and these are the areas where detoxification is most difficult.

In the hard drive of the Asyra all of the frequencies from the therapeutic agents are stored.

When the Asyra identifies the problems in the patient....it then also identifies the specific frequencies needed to resolve those problems. Those frequencies are then imprinted into the homeopathic drops.

The imprinted frequencies (when taken in drops) enter the nervous system, spread through the body and influence the cells in the desired way.

Once these issues are addressed and testing is repeated several weeks later.....second level issues (less serious) will show up. This is how Asyra and other EAV devices (Bioset, etc) can work in layers. You peel off the layers of illness as you go.

Now about LED... :)

Acupuncture control points are pathways into the energetic nervous system, the Meridians, Chakras, and Nadis, through which energy flows through your body.

Applying an acupuncture needle to a specific site will influence structures deep within the body, along the Meridian stimulated - this is the basis for acupuncture anesthesia and acupuncture therapy in general. It turns out that a laser beam of specific frequency can stimulate an acupuncture control point.

So in LED....the specific frequency treatment for a specific toxin is imprinted into a vial which is then placed into a laser pointer.

The laser goes "through" the vial holding the frequency treatment....it changes the laser from a pin-point...into a line. The laser beam is then used to "paint" the body with the frequency treatment.

All metals must be removed from the body but the patient remains lightly clothed.

By painting the entire body they make sure that all of the appropriate acupuncture control points are stimulated.

The frequencies enter the body, and are carried to the cells.....the cells respond by releasing the targeted toxin into the system or into a space between cells.

After this you get "painted" again (palms, ears and soles of feet) with frequencies of detox support agents.

These frequencies will help escort the released toxins out of your body.

Since the toxins stored in our bodies are known to trigger autoimmunity you then get painted with frequencies directed against any auto-immune processes that were set up by the toxin which is being treated in that session. These autoimmune problems are identified through testing prior to treatments.

They will also have you take specific supplements or chelating agents before and after treatment to aid in the detoxification.

This is how LED differs from traditional chelation therapy....

With standard biochemical chelation therapy, the chelating agent binds to and removes a toxic agent, say Lead, from your blood.

As the blood Lead level is rapidly decreased, a little Lead will leave the cells and enter the blood, following a concentration gradient.

A second chelation is carried out one week later, lowering the blood Lead level, and then a little more Lead will leave the cells.

If we chelate you enough, over and over, we will eventually get most of the Lead out of your cells, but this process is inefficient, because our chelating agent, EDTA, cannot get into the cells where 99% of the Lead is.

With LED for Lead, the cells are induced to dump out their Lead; then the detox support frequencies applied and the oral chelating agents we give you will escort this released Lead out of the body. LED thus has the potential to rapidly accelerate the detoxification process.

and this is what happens after treatment..

With this rapid detoxification comes the potential for a detox reaction, but with proper patient preparation this risk is small.

Following a LED session, we will ask you to avoid exposure to the toxin under treatment for the following 24 hours, even in low amounts. Remember that we are dealing not with molecules but with energies, and here a little of the wrong energies can neutralize a LED.

We also ask you to avoid EMF exposure, as much as possible, over the 24 hours post-LED, which is difficult to do. If, however, a LED is not successful, we can easily repeat it.

After every third LED session we repeat your Asyra LED evaluation, to make sure that the toxins previously addressed have cleared and to look for second level toxins to which we will then turn our attention.

LED works - it will remove toxins from your body - but maybe not from your toxic foci. In German Neural Therapy, a skinny needle is used to inject detox agents into these deep recesses of your body. Dr. Cowden has a better approach. The Photon Pulser drives the laser beam, bearing the desired detox frequency, into the toxic foci, "jarring loose" the toxic substances. Within our LED session you will be Photon Pulsed over the toxic foci determined on your Asyra LED evaluation.

We are hopeful that combining LED with standard chemical chelation will add to our ability to remove metal toxins from your body. LED will also allow us to address toxicities that we previously could not address, including pesticides, herbicides, solvents, and hydrocarbons such as formaldehyde and benzene. the goal is to remove all the toxins from your body, and LED is going to help us do just that.

The autoimmune problems that develop from toxins stored in the body are an important part that is addressed in LED.

Heres an explanation of that...

*The autoimmunity concept is important, and explains a lot of otherwise unexplainable health problems.

It is impossible to become allergic to a normal human molecule - the immune system just won't recognize as "foreign" a molecule that has been present within you since birth - but this statement is not precisely true.

Let's say you are exposed to a non-human molecule that enters your system and binds to a normal human molecule. Your immune system will react to this hybrid molecule as foreign, and the antibodies and other immune mediators produced will then cross-react with the normal human molecule. This is the process of biochemical auto-immunity, the result of toxicity.

Let's say the normal human molecule was a neurotransmitter involved in sleep. From this point on your body will react to this particular molecule and you will never again enjoy a full night's rest.

Let's say the normal human molecule was involved in reproductive health; from this point on your reproductive cycles will be out of balance. The more toxins that are are exposed to, the greater is your chance for ill health based upon this principle of auto-immunity.

So yes...toxic and foreign substances that bind with our own cells (i.e mercury) can trigger autoimmunity.

This was something Dr. K. mentioned in his interview....that heavy metals (mercury).... in studies were found to be the *root* cause for autoimmune problems in the body.

So thats the "breakdown" of scientificness re: LED.

Hope it makes sense. :)

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Thanks Rachel,

I read that article but it seems easier to understand the way you broke it up. :D

Question for those of you taking drops that had to be built up gradually.

I'm trying to figure out our ASYRA drop schedule. Most times I can give 2 days per each one drop increase. With Micah if I want to have him over this series of drops before the next ASYRA session I would need to do many of his at 1 drop added per day. Does anyone thing that'd be too much?

Talitha and Seth both have the last 1/2 week to a week where there's will increase at a drop a day to have them finish up on Sept 4th. Micah needs to take more drops than Talitha.

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Rachel--24 Collaborator
I read that article but it seems easier to understand the way you broke it up. :D

It actually helps me retain info when I have to *think* about it. So if I actually type out the scientificness I'm kind of forced to understand it.....whereas if I just read it its not always sinking in.

That was the first article I saved when I started looking into LED...but as many times as I've skimmed it...I didnt really understand it all until I typed it out tonight. :)

Question for those of you taking drops that had to be built up gradually.

I'm trying to figure out our ASYRA drop schedule. Most times I can give 2 days per each one drop increase. With Micah if I want to have him over this series of drops before the next ASYRA session I would need to do many of his at 1 drop added per day. Does anyone thing that'd be too much?

I think it should be fine. When I increase drops on stuff that I'm taking I just have to watch for reactions...which are more likely to happen with me because of how toxic I am. Some people have to increase very slowly because of that.

Since Micah's not sick I'm thinking he'll do fine increasing 1 drop per day. I think he would handle it just fine but if for some reason he didnt...then you would just need to slow it down.

I dont think you'll have problems increasing though.

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Dear Dorothy,

Fructose is a very common sensitivity. Many people have difficulty digesting it. I have heard eating cooked fruit tends to ease discomfort. I do alright eating fresh fruit for the most part. However,

due to having Candida, must be careful that the fruit does not get overly ripe, or I react to it.

Corn syrup seems to be a big problem for anyone with IBS. :( I read about that before. The HFCS is the worst! I know my brother does not do well consuming it. I do well with a balance of fruits and vegetables, but must be sure to not eat something more than twice a week. I seem to be doing better if I rotate foods.

Dear Carla,

I am sorry to hear Chloe is having a rough time. Hopefully, that will improve soon. It is so strange the psychological effects herxes have. Being in a bad mood is natural when you feel bad, but the herxes tend to be much more difficult to handle than other problems. Dealing with the psychological effects can be more trying than the physical symptoms from a herx at times it seems. :(

It is good you take the antibiotics and probiotics apart. That should help. There are a lot of reasons you might not be getting the good bacteria. All of those probiotics should be working by now. I wonder if there is another element here that just has not been pursued yet.

I do not think I could handle a sauna. My Thyroid makes me really sensitive to heat. I can stand going out in the heat for a short while, but get dizzy and stuff from it a lot of the time. Now that we have had that cooling off from the storms the other day, that has made a difference. It will not last long, though. Back in the 90s we go next week!

Wow, I did not know that Steven Seagal went to Bloomington, and so did the Dalai Lama! That is so cool! :) Who would have thought the Dalai Lama's brother lived here in the Hoosier State! Now that is something to be proud of!

The Dalai Lama's brother and his family also owns restaurants? That is interesting. Is it Tibetan cuisine? I think that is where he is from, right? At least, I know that is where the Dalai Lama lives.

Dear tom,

I love your avatar and the caption, too! C.A.M.E.L.S.P.I.T.! :lol::P I could see why the llama is annoyed. All of those terrible rumors going around about him probably are irritating. Another good thing about llamas is, they are not like goats. They not only head-butt you, but they eat everything!

Goats will chew and swallow anything!

Magnesium sulfate heptahydrate is not always injected, then? Now I am confused. What exactly do they use it for over in China? Maybe it depends on whether it is considered pharmaceutical grade or not. I wonder what it is used to treat, and how it is normally administered.

The penicillin theory certainly makes sense to me. I always wondered about this. My father never wanted me to take it, because of the fact he was allergic. The thing is, just because your parent is allergic, does not mean you are. My father can take meds I cannot. I can tolerate a couple of meds my mother nor father can take.

C. Spice better be on the run! Dollface is not forgiving. You only make her mad once. I do not know how all of this started, but she has made up her mind. That would explain his sudden exit. I hope he did not go to Boca, because that is the first place she will look.

I like your idea about renting a fridge for doing one of those stool tests! :lol: You definitely should not mention what you are using it for. They may not let you return it! :lol: ROTFLMAO! I suppose if they ask, you can just be vague. Say you have some guests from out of town dropping by for only a few days! As for phantom tirds, no one wants to run into the Scat Spector!

Dear Susie,

I am sorry your service was messed up. All of the people on the West Coast probably had a terrible time! Not being able to get online drives me crazy! I cannot be cut off! We wondered what happened to you!

Dear Nikki,

AACKKKKK!!!! Not the forumless abyss! We cannot go there! It is a horrible place! No one is there, and if you scream, they cannot hear you, like you said! The abyss is an awful place to be!

Dear Andrea,

I would like to receive an e-mail also about the kids and their testing. The treatment sure seems confusing. There are so many things needing treated. Thank goodness you found out now. So much damage could have occurred over the years had you found out later!

I wish I knew what to tell you about the ASYRA drops. The best thing is to use your own instincts. They do not steer you wrong! I think the approach of adding a drop daily seems reasonable.

You can always reduce it if a reaction occurs, like Rachel said.

Dear Donna,

Oh boy, that liver test sounds like so much fun! :lol: That detox diet sounds like most every other diet I have seen. No caffeine or sugar is what would kill me. Those are so hard to give up. I am trying so hard to give up the sugar at the moment. I just do a little at a time.

Choir practice sounds like it went alright. I could see why you would be concerned about the microphone issue. I would not want to hear myself that loud either! That would be so weird! Plus, it is distracting. I am sure you will do great when the time comes!

Dear Patti,

You are right. Time goes by fast! Rachel's LED treatment will be here before you know it! I cannot believe it is already Friday! Can you? It seems like just yesterday was Sunday.

Dear Claire,

The Mercury going retrograde is notorious for causing strange behavior in people, and unusual happenings. I do not think it is retrograde right now. Mars and Uranus are forming a sextile right now, which may have a similar outcome. Planets sure can screw up a lot when they are aligned in a particular way. You have to watch for them! I hope your work situation gets better.

ASYRA seems to have its pulse on things. That is great! You said you will only need 5 treatments? That is wonderful! I would have expected more.

Dear Rachel,

Thanks for all of the LED scientificness. It does make more sense now. Breaking it up like that definitely helps a lot! I read that in order to remember information better, you should read for only about ten minutes at once. This allows the information to process more thoroughly before you take more in, so you will recall it better.

ASYRA is not easy to get done. The machines are hard to find! Are you going to go up to the clinic to do that? Or are you going to stick with just ART and BioSet? Isn't that clinic in Washington?

I am probably extremely mycotoxic as well. Mold is bad for me all around. I was allergic to it before I had an overgrowth of yeast. I even break out in a rash from skin contact! We have so much mold in this house, it is shocking!

I am so glad the cookies did not bother you! This is so exciting! You deserve to treat yourself after only have a diet of 5 foods for all of this time! That means you are less toxic! I would love to try some of those! Enjoy yours and eat some for me!

Dear Judy,

It sounds like you are removing toxins! That is wonderful! I would love to just try an epsom salt foot bath. I am sure that could help the detoxing. Meanwhile, racheling the epsom salt baths does not sound bad!

Sincerely,

Jin

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OMG -OMG- OMG- OMG- .... :rolleyes::o:rolleyes:

BY JOVE I THINK I'VE GOT IT. ;):lol:

OUR "SCIENTIFICNESS" GURU IS BACK AND ON A ROLL AGAIN.

LOVE IT :lol:

Hmmm....I've been trying to understand the scientificness behind LED for awhile now. I have to read it over and over again to retain it and to make sense of it. I dont know if I totally "get it" yet....but this is my understanding thus far.

I'll make an attempt to try and explain it but not sure if it will make alot of sense. :unsure:

Its all broken down from one article that I read.

I think that LED does work on an energetic level. Its basically doing what biochemical treatments can do but without the use of the drugs....and in a shorter amount of time. The toxins that you are treated for in LED are physically present in the body...they are specific toxins that are stored in various areas of the body...but removed on an energetic level.

Homeopathy is based on scientific proof that "vibrational exchange" is the language of biochemistry.

When we take vitamins, hormones, etc...our cells have specific receptors for these things and they work by triggering a change within the cell.

There would not likely be receptors in the cell membranes for pharmaceuticals....so drugs would not work by binding with the cell. Instead, drugs would work by getting close enough to the cells that its frequencies are picked up and responded to....a "vibrational exchange".

The concept is that the vibrational exchange is the mechanism of our biochemistry and physiology.

If this were true...then they wouldnt need to actually give you the therapeutic drug....instead they could just give you the exact "frequency" of that same molecule.

UGH???? :blink: JUST KIDDING I'LL FIGURE IT OUT

This was something Dr. K. mentioned in his interview....that heavy metals (mercury).... in studies were found to be the *root* cause for autoimmune problems in the body.

So thats the "breakdown" of scientificness re: LED.

Hope it makes sense. :)

WELL............................MAKES MORE SENSE THAN IT DID BEFORE :lol:

i'LL GET THERE

JUST HAD MY BATH SOAK THIS AM AND OUT INTO THE GARDEN WITH THE .... :o TICKS :ph34r:

NASTY LITTLE B-- %^()*$#(RDS)

SAW A DEER IN THE DRIVE WAY LAST NITE..AND 2 LAST WEEK COMING UP THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND EVERYONE ONE.

HUGS

JUDY

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Rachel-

oh my god- i think i might finally understand LED - you are amazing!!!

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oh rachel i gotta know what are these cookies?

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I had a dream about GLUTEN!!!! :o That hasn't happened in a year or more!!! :lol: I was at some party and I needed to give someone money, and it was inside a bun, so I was taking the bun to the person and I passed these pastries and for some reason I thought it was a good idea to take him one of those too. On the way I almost took a bite of the pastry, but came to my senses and did not. I was so proud. :lol: Holy guacamole...I have some strange dreams! :lol:

Guess what I am doing later today...getting a hot stone treatment!!! Well, at least that's what I'm SUPPOSED to get...the girl I usually see for my therapeutic massage was going to do it, but she had to cancel, so they're having someone else do it. I've gone to this place for years now and have never had a bad massage, so even if they didn't get the hot stone part, I'm getting a massage, lol.

And, who was it...Tom...joking about time and place of my singing event. :lol: I dingo'd that I was going to reply to that. :P We sing two songs...the first one probably right at 9:00 the second...well, sometime in the next hour after that. :P There. The place shall be a mystery forever. :lol:

So, about the epsom salt baths...does anyone know if the magnesium absorbed during the bath stays in the system and acts like supplemental magnesium... It doesn't seem like it would to me, but I just thought I'd ask since both Dr. S and Anna want me to load up on magnesium. I never feel any different (except relaxed) after my baths...I'll be having one for sure after my massage today. :P

And my last it's-all-about-me comment, lol, I have decided that I have not been faithful to my candida diet and will start clean today. So along with adding my healthy detox stuff, I'm cutting out some of the unhealthy probably-feeds-candida stuff. Stuff to go: bacon, mayo, the hershey's kisses I swipe as I pass people's desks at work, the Hershey's truffle nuggets I found a stash of at work, too much frozen fruit in my supplement shakes... So there, it's in print and I'm committing myself (probably should commit myself to an institution, but that's another post). :lol:

AAM: I'm very tired today :( . Lots of stress at work yesterday and stress with DH today with the infertility stuff. Jin, what did you say about mercury going retrograde? Everyone lost it at work yesterday :huh: . The kicker was the a** chewing I got from my director about not being current with all my e-mails. I bought every evil gluten and dairy free candy and dessert I can eat to ease the stress :ph34r: . Funny, it didn't really help <_< .

Aw Claire so sorry about work. It was REALLY busy yesterday for me but fortunately everyone was in a great mood and very [oh heck, I'm having one of those lyme moments when I can't think of the word I want and can't even tell you what I'm trying to convey :( something similar to agreeable I guess], so I was just busy.

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Dear Judy,

HUGS to you, too! I hope you have a good weekend as well! I am a bit nervous due to having a dentist appointment Monday. I am going to a new dentist. I would not worry if I knew my stomach would behave.

Dear Mia,

Those cookies do sound great! They must be a type of chocolate meringue from the sound of it. I would have to make my own. It is certainly lower in fat than other cookies. I have a secret way of making my low-fat cookies, without ruining the texture.

My best friend actually gave me the idea. She taught me how to make these really easy cookies with any cake mix, 1 egg, and a container of Cool Whip. Well, Cool Whip is not high in fat, but still has a great texture for the cookies. So, I experimented with my regular recipe and they turned out terrific! :) Since the lactose is my issue, I am good there. They also have fat-free and sugar-free Cool Whip.

Dear Donna,

ROTFLMAO! :lol::lol::lol: That was such a funny dream! Isn't it strange how some of them are? I have had dreams about being scared of getting sick from gluten foods, too! Doesn't it suck we cannot even escape the fear of gluten in our dreams! I am still laughing about one of the other dreams you had, where you said Rachel was lost. Rachel responded and asked why does she always have to be the one to get lost. Then, you told her that she was not lost, you just could not find her! :lol:

Your massage sounds inviting. Those hot stone treatments are nice from what I hear. I wish I could try one. Or, strangling relatives would be great, too. God knows I could use some therapy, and not the psychological kind.

The church I grew up in was a U.C.C. It was a lot like a Catholic church the way it was run. We kept having to get up and down during the service to sing hymns. It was like a freakin' exercise class. I thought Sunday was supposed to be the day of rest?! :blink:

I think magnesium is absorbed through the skin when you take a bath with the epsom salts. Someone mentioned something about that before. I hope it does not have a laxative effect. That would not be good. I could use the magnesium, and do need to detox. I just do not know if sitting in our tub is a good idea right now. It really needs cleaned.

Good luck on the Candida Diet! Speaking of, I wonder how Rinne is doing on that. I am now out of peanut butter and am going to stay that way. This week is the first week where I begin elimination of Candida no-no's gradually. It is difficult to stay away from the sugar, I too, am addicted. Having low blood sugar certainly makes things more difficult.

Sincerely,

Jin

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Thanks Rachel. :D

I'll figure out Micah's drops to coincide ending the day before the next ART/ASYRA session. :)

I've finally printed out a calendar (weekly) to write all the drop dosages on so I know what in the world I'm doing.

JUST HAD MY BATH SOAK THIS AM AND OUT INTO THE GARDEN WITH THE ....

Have fun in the garden and stay away from those ticks!

The children saw 2 deer up on the hill right behind our neighbors house yesterday. I haven't seen deer around here the last 2 years we were here. Now we've seen them quite a bit. Could be the same three all the time, who knows.

I had a dream about GLUTEN!!!! :o That hasn't happened in a year or more!!! :lol:

Sounds like you had great restraint......even in a dream. :P

Guess what I am doing later today...getting a hot stone treatment!!!

Enjoy! :D Sounds nice and comfy.....the heat anyway. :P

And my last it's-all-about-me comment, lol, I have decided that I have not been faithful to my candida diet and will start clean today. So along with adding my healthy detox stuff, I'm cutting out some of the unhealthy probably-feeds-candida stuff.

Is going on the candida diet a good thing if it's trapping the metals? :unsure:

Good luck on the Candida Diet! Speaking of, I wonder how Rinne is doing on that. I am now out of peanut butter and am going to stay that way. This week is the first week where I begin elimination of Candida no-no's gradually.

I've been wondering about Rinne too. :(

You've been doing good.....keep up the good work of gradual elimination. :)

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Dear Andrea,

That schedule for the ASYRA drops sounds like a good idea! ;) You can easily keep track of things that way. I have a medicine log for myself. I always write the medication, time it was taken, day and date. I am working on simplifying it some. I can have part of it prewritten, so it is less effort.

Thank you for the encouragement! :) Getting rid of the Candida is probably going to take some effort. However, if you gradually ease into it, I think it makes the die-off easier to handle. I just hope I do not have mercury or other metals that will bind to it and make it difficult to eradicate. Like you, I hope Rinne will be back on here soon. I miss her. :(

Sincerely,

Jin

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And my last it's-all-about-me comment, lol, I have decided that I have not been faithful to my candida diet and will start clean today.

Donna,

There was a time when I doubted your statement that you were "The Queen of Lazy" and a lot like me. The more I read your posts, the more I'm beginning to believe that you are, in fact, a lot like me, and, quite possibly, we share the title "Queen of Lazy" - can there be 2 Queens in this land?

I had no choice but to post a reply to this. Between the laziness and the "all about me" thing, I can see now that you were right.

Good luck with starting over clean today. I'm The Queen of starting over today. Not to be self-centered or anything, but, it is, in fact, all about me. :D

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ASYRA is not easy to get done. The machines are hard to find! Are you going to go up to the clinic to do that? Or are you going to stick with just ART and BioSet? Isn't that clinic in Washington?

Amy's clinic is in Washington. I'm not going up there for Asyra or LED since we were able to find someone local who is experienced.

Amy is running an Asyra test on me but instead of me physically being there and connected to the machine.....she is using a saliva sample she collected from me last time she was here.

The Dr. I'm seeing for LED is not using Asyra. The practitioners who do LED can use various methods of testing to determine the toxins that need to be treated. They can use muscle testing, ART, any kind of electrodermal screening test (like Asyra or BioSET)....whatever is their preferred method of testing is what they'll use.

I'm not sure which various methods this new Dr. uses....but I know he uses muscle testing and I know he doesnt use Asyra. I guess I will find out on Wednesday. :)

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND EVERYONE ONE.

HUGS

JUDY

YOU TOO JUDY!! :wub:

Rachel-

oh my god- i think i might finally understand LED - you are amazing!!!

YAY!!

I'm glad it makes sense Mia! :)

It took awhile to break it down but in the process I learned alot more. :)

oh rachel i gotta know what are these cookies?

They are called "Chocolate Chewie Cookies".....made in the Safeway bakery. Are there Safeway's in New York?? :unsure:

So, about the epsom salt baths...does anyone know if the magnesium absorbed during the bath stays in the system and acts like supplemental magnesium... It doesn't seem like it would to me, but I just thought I'd ask since both Dr. S and Anna want me to load up on magnesium. I never feel any different (except relaxed) after my baths...I'll be having one for sure after my massage today. :P

Donna, the magenesium sulfate does get absorbed into the skin and it does work in the body after the bath.

YAY for hot stone treatments!! I cant wait to hear how it goes!! :)

Dear Judy,

HUGS to you, too! I hope you have a good weekend as well! I am a bit nervous due to having a dentist appointment Monday. I am going to a new dentist. I would not worry if I knew my stomach would behave.

Hey....you just reminded me that I forgot to make my dentist appt!! :o

Thanks for the reminder....now hopefully I wont forget by Monday. :rolleyes:

I am still laughing about one of the other dreams you had, where you said Rachel was lost. Rachel responded and asked why does she always have to be the one to get lost.

Yeah....I am soooooo always the one who gets lost!! :huh:

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Dear tom,

. . . . C.A.M.E.L.S.P.I.T.! :lol::P

. . . . .

Magnesium sulfate heptahydrate is not always injected, then? Now I am confused.

Hehehehe The Myth of Expectorating Llamas and acronymizing it all cracks me up too much. I probably shouldn't amuse myself to this degree. It might (uh oh thought of funny phrases that might cross a line - I better shut up :lol: )

Re: Magnesium sulfate heptahydrate - what I saw was more that Magnesium Sulfate itself is injected for a number of different situations. But once it's processed into Epsom Salts, w/ those hepta water molecules, it's just for baths etc., and several gardening applications!

C. Spice better be on the run! Dollface is not forgiving. You only make her mad once. I do not know how all of this started, but she has made up her mind. That would explain his sudden exit. I hope he did not go to Boca, because that is the first place she will look.

Oh damn!! His old roommates (in fact the same ones that coined his moniker) live in Boca!!! Dollface does her research! :)

I'm afraid this will end badly. (And I don't mean for Dollface).

Maybe C.Spice was only there long enough to "borrow" a cigarette boat, and is out on the open sea already.

<I still say she's overreacting>

I am trying so hard to give up the sugar at the moment. I just do a little at a time.

Bah! Cold turkey's the way to go. After 2 or 3 days of thinking about sweets, it gets extremely easy.

Or just stretch out the hard part to be 8 months instead of 3 days. :P

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