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Last 6 months been doing a high protein, low carbs (really only carb has been sweet potatoes) diet, recently got into bodybuilding and main focus has been: meats, brocolli, apples/oranges,spinach,yogurt,skim milk,cottage cheese,sweet potatoes,eggs and peanut butter, green tea and lots of water, pretty much my diet and supplemented with teaspoon of olive and fish oil capsules along with a daily vitamin.

I noticed since making this chancge and giving up grains,breads, I have had no stomach pains, more energy and no bloat, my reason for the switch though was to go low carb for getting thinner though, just happened to notice the bonus effects, just always though I had a sensitive stomach and been told before I had ibs but really never agreed with it, and having no issues for 6 months kind of throws that dx out the window.

Anyhow I added quaker oats and a protein powder to my regimen 3 days ago and as I write this and for last 48 hours or so I have:

extreme diarrehea (sp?)

bloated like a baloon

extreme gas pains

moody, cant focus, agitated

face puffy

ulcres in my mouth

zero and I mean zero energy

groin pains

lower back pains

just fee like going to bed

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I'm not a Dr but it sure sounds like you have some kind of sensitivity. To know exactly what you have you will need to be tested.


Shellfish free since 1980

Milk free (all forms) since 1991

Feingold in 2003

First gluten-free round 2007

Now entering full time Gluten free, egg free, almond/peanut free

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Sounds like typical celiac reactions to being glutened after having gone gluten free. Only problem is that if you get tested, you will get a false negative on the bloodwork since you've been coincidentally gluten free for many months.

Try cream of rice cereal instead of oats.... it's very easy to digest and i enjoy it in the morning for a quick, hot breakfast. Protein supplements will mix very easily into it as well. You will also want to be sure that your protein powder is gluten free as well.


Joe

Dx Crohn's Disease - December, 1993

Positive Blood Test - November, 2007

Positive Biopsy - December 21, 2007

Gluten Free since December 3, 2007

Crohn's Medication stopped on January 17, 2008

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Looks like a horse, walks like a horse, probably is a horse.

I think you may have just failed the Gluten challenge.

My son had diarrhea for two months straight, and stomach issues and I got the seriological dx 11/29/07. (At first they first said IBS, and I researched and watched him and said no its not do more testing. Yay we found it !)

So he had been gluten-free for 6 weeks, diarrhea gone. Still stomach acid issues.

Anyway, I accidently let him drink a vitamin drink "function house call" which clearly said contains gluten. It was at dinner and after a few bites of food, he stood up and said I don't feel so hot and went to lay down, it was then I grabbed the bottle. Oddly all the other drinks said Gluten Free except this kind.

So, I beleive the body once gluten-free becomes highly sensitive to Gluten and can have a bad reaction with one ingestion. I'm new but I can definitely see it.

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I looked at the protein powder and it says may contain products derived from wheat,soy and dairy...so there it is.

It is unclear about quaker oats, only says "100% rolled oats"

its been about 12 hours since having the powder, still bloated and feel like crap but pains and trips to the bathroom have ended, also started being itchy which i remember well and use to hate when doctor always told me there seems to be no cause, havent been itchy in months, it all is making sense now.

I also read that some people get depressed and have concentration problems, I find this interesting since I have always had depression and adhd symptoms yet was never given a dx of either disorder, as I look back with new diet which was carb free and also unintentionally gluten free, I have not had much depression or attention problems...hmmm

I would like to get tested but that would mean eating gluten again for awhile though right? not sure if I am willing to go in pain again just to find out.

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I looked at the protein powder and it says may contain products derived from wheat,soy and dairy...so there it is.

It is unclear about quaker oats, only says "100% rolled oats"

its been about 12 hours since having the powder, still bloated and feel like crap but pains and trips to the bathroom have ended

Quaker Oats are notorious for cross contamination.


Lisa

Gluten Free - August 15, 2004

"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien

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Quaker Oats are notorious for cross contamination.

really? ok thanks....curious if you personally say had a cup of gluten products what would you experience and how long would it take?

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really? ok thanks....curious if you personally say had a cup of gluten products what would you experience and how long would it take?

I have been gluten free for two and a half years and I consider myself in remission. If I did have a cup of gluten, I most likely would not react. Now, if I had a cup of gluten every day for a week, I suspect that I would have classic Celiac (no *s*) symtoms.

Gluten reactions are different in everyone.

If you feel you want to be tested, you must continue to eat gluten or may show a false negative. Here is the Celiac Blood Antibody Tests to request:

Anti-gliadin antibodies (AGA) both IgA and IgG

Anti-endomysial antibodies (EMA) - IgA

Anti-tissue transglutaminase antibodies (tTG) - IgA

Total IgA level.


Lisa

Gluten Free - August 15, 2004

"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien

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Thought I'd chime in...

I've had bad neurological symptoms probably my entire life...but things really started getting bad with me at age 12 for some reason.

I haven't been officially tested yet, but have done the gluten challenge and failed.

I also sorta unknowingly stumbled upon the gluten-free diet a few times the past 2 years. And low and behold I was feeling better. Finally started doing things I wanted in my life, even found a girlfriend who I loved. Then I decided to stop smoking the one or two cigarettes I was smoking daily (probably to replace the opiate feeling I was used to from dairy/wheat stuff)...and in replacement of the smokes I decided I would "let" myself have a scone everyday.

Suddenly I became a different person. My girlfriend even told me that. I didn't know what was going wrong. I just knew that I was becoming the person I was most of my life...the one that was so messed up all the time...my girlfriend broke up with me. Never talked to me again. Its been a year and a half and finally a few months ago I found out about this gluten stuff...I even emailed her on it. whatever...

it just pains me. i have been through SO much pain in my life. okay... deep breath... back onto the topic....

I think its great you found out about this stuff. Like I said we are similar since I intitially was trying low-carb and felt better.

I have my own theories on this gluten stuff. I think our stomach's respond to the gluten by developing mucus plaque in the intestines... that is why it "seems" we can tolerate gluten more in the past then now, after we have been gluten free for awhile. Now...being gluten free...out stomach has eliminated the mucus... so now we can absorb EVERYTHING better...all those nutrients were not being assimilated before while eating gluten...because to protect itself against gluten it created the plaque.

This is similar to the argument for eating raw foods. They say cooked foods are actually somewhat reactive to the gut. So it develops a layer of mucus.

But I'm sorta more in line with DogtorJ.net.... he talks about the main foods that damage the villi being Gluten, Casein, Soy, and Corn. Typically when people go raw they just don't eat those things! So they feel better. But you can also not eat those things without going 100% raw.

So my theory is when you go off gluten...or the foods your gut never liked to begin with.... after a period of time the gut stops producing its mucuid plaque to protect its own self... and thats when you start "feeling" better. Since now your intestines are absorbing more nutrients.

As a child my parents said I would bang my own head against the tile floor when I was irritated. I had many "issues" growing up. I'm also really athletic and smart. I pretty much have been destroyed by this gluten thing. I was supposed to be "destined" for so much. I'm 26 now... and finally feeling "functional"...cept when glutened which has happened now twice. Just graduated college...but its like I'm an infant in some ways. Like my life wasn't hard enough now I have to somehow make it in this world from ground zero.

/rant off


I eat whatever I want. But I listen to my body. I just can't eat a lot of diary or grains. If I do eat them, I savor and chew them slowly and well... I don't like feeling sluggish and if I eat alot of those things I start feeling sluggish. I feel very cleaned out now. I like to eat lots of raw fruits and veggies. I think for me I just can't eat things that are inflammatory, and dairy and all grains are inflammatory to me. So looks like I'll be eating mainly fruits, veggies, wild or grass-fed meats, and figure out what other stuff I can eat thats not too inflammatory. I'll probably also drink wine or brandy and use other plants things that are anti-inflammatory. Yeah!

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I wouldn't bother getting tested. The tests are HIGHLY innacurate. And you already KNOW how much better you feel. You're an adult and you don't need a doctor's permission to quit gluten.

Welcome to the club!! Congrats on getting healthy!

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I wouldn't bother getting tested. The tests are HIGHLY inacurate. And you already KNOW how much better you feel. You're an adult and you don't need a doctor's permission to quit gluten.

Great reply! I've self-diagnosed accurately several times, when I did choose to go to doctors I was often misdiagnosed and/or their tests either failed (like an expensive allergy test I had to pay for out of pocket which came out negative...) or, if lucky, they just confirmed what I already knew; now that I'm older I listen more carefully to my body and trust its messages.

Incidentally, it was also through low-carb dieting that I discovered my wheat intolerance and I've been thinking of going back to that WOE because I need to lose weight again.

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can anyone direct me to a list of gluten foods/products so I know what to avoid.

https://www.celiac.com/articles.html/safe-gluten-free-food-list-safe-ingredients-r181/

Regular oats are always cross-contaminated with wheat. (Only intentional ingredients have to be listed in with ingredients. Any other warnings are voluntary.) There are special, gluten-free oats available. People with gluten intolerance may be able to tolerate those. However, some don't, since the oat protein is similar to that in wheat. I've heard it best to avoid oats altogether until one is sure that their gut has healed.

What is your protein powder made from? You could be reacting to one of its ingredients.


McDougall diet (low fat vegan) since 6/00

Gluten free since 1/6/07

Soy free and completely casein and egg free since 2/15/07

Yeast free, on and off, since 3/1/07 -- I can't notice any difference one way or the other

Enterolab results -- 2/15/07

Fecal Antigliladin IgA 140 (Normal Range <10 units)

Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 50 (Normal Range <10 units)

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 517 (Normal Range <300 units)

Fecal anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody 127 (Normal Range <10 units)

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0501

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 06xx

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,1 (subtype 5,6)

Fecal anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA antibody 11 (Normal range <10 units)

Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 11 (Normal range <10 units)

Fecal Anti-Soy IgA 119 (Normal Range < 10 units)

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