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Cross Contamination & Lay's


Woolygimp

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I live in a large household and I'm extremely careless with food preparation and cross contamination. I have never gotten a reaction from any household cross contamination. I never bothered to replace cooking ware or our teflon frying pans. I was all dishes in the same dishwasher, and only give cleaned utensils/plates/bowls a quick rinse before using them. So I was thinking that maybe I'm less sensitive than most...

Then I ate a bag of Lay's and definitely had a reaction. According to Frito Lay:

*The above products do not contain gluten; however, they are produced on the same line as our products that do contain gluten. Although the lines are washed between batches, a slight residue may remain on the lines. Individuals who are extremely sensitive may be affected.

The reaction was smaller and only lasted a couple days, unlike the larger ones that last weeks. I still find it odd that I had one, so I'm thinking that Frito Lay isn't telling the whole story here. They were two bags of original Lays. Maybe it was something else, although the timing coincided directly with the ingestion of those chips, and I can't spot what else it could've been because I eat a very restricted diet. The two bags of chips were an exception as I was stuck away from the house for several hours and I needed something to hold me over. Anyway, I think I've probably been exposed to 'residues' on the frying/baking pans that I use and I've never attributed a reaction to it before.

Anyway the point of me posting this is that I am considering that maybe I've been lucky with my cross contamination issues up to this point and that I may need to get in the habit of being safer? Some of the stuff posted on here, regarding household CC, is a bit too anal, but I'm basically posting this to find out if any of you successfully get by without going overboard. Are there people out there with more relaxed habits regarding CC, who don't constantly get hit?


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Piccolo Apprentice

Woolygimp,

Unfortunately Frito Lay is known for their cc. I think their Stax is done on a dedicated line.

I once had one of their products that appeared safe. The only thing it had in it that was an obvious problem was oat flower (I don't react to oats). The next day my 6 hour dizzy spell hit and there was nothing I could do by lay there.

Hope this helps

Susan

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How many people are in your household? For ex. In mine it is just myself and my husband (and two dogs haha). We are in the groove now of using separate counters. He doesn't really "cook" anything that has gluten so we use the same pots and pans. The only thing gluten that he really cooks is microwave things so we clean the microwave. I use the toaster and he uses the toaster oven. We have separate jars and I label mine and our things in the pantry are separated then we have couple shelves that are ok things that we can both have.

In regards to the Lay's chips... I use to get the stack ones and from what they say on their website they are the ony ones done on a dedicated line. I had problems with these off and on so stopped buying them. I was getting a box of the small Regular Lay's at Sam's would be okay with one individual bag then the next one feel like I was going to have stomach issues and my head would feel funny...after I connected the dots back to the Lay's I stopped eating them. Figured I would eventually find something else that I could sub with and like.

Good Luck with things :)

Juliebove Rising Star

Daughter eats the plain Lays, Wavy, Ruffles, and plain Fritos with no problems. No problems yet anyway. Can't do the Staxx because of soy.

slmprofesseur Apprentice

Utz potato chips are labeled gluten free. I love them! No worries.

LuvMoosic4life Collaborator

hi,

I have no choice right now but to share cookingware and i really havent had too much of a problem either. I do agree that it is a little rediculous sometimes thinking about all the things people do to live in a completely gluten-free house. I mean, if I had the money to live inj my own house I would have it completely gluten-free also, but I cant right now. I know I could feel better than I do right now, but I havent had any MAJOR reaction. But then I usually dont react until I take in a large amount of gluten, or continuously eat it day after day. Lays do not work for me either, and actually, I found that potatoes altogether cause me problems. I tend to get gassy, tired, headace and stiff joints, but more so with potatoe chips than whole baked potatoes. I find the canola oil in chips bothers me also.

Katsby Apprentice

The only time I've had (so far) a reaction at home from cc was with an older skillet that I no longer use except if I'm preparing something for my kids. I have my own dedicated one. My other pots are stainless steel. Other than that we share the same dishes, and I wash them all in the dishwasher together. (It's just my 2 kids and I). I do make sure the counters are wiped down and I wash my hands a lot if I touch anything else when preparing my foods. That is probably the most anal thing about my routine. I don't consider myself the most sensitive person to kitchen dish cc though. I wouldn't use the same cutting board, though, for gluten foods as non gluten.

I'm a little afraid to use my bread machine though. I've only used it maybe 3 times before. If I clean it immaculately I wonder if there will be cc. I doubted it since the inside is metal, but I don't know. Everyone seems to know so much more than I do (I am kinda newer to all this).

As for the chips I tried the stax yesterday and I did fine. I usually buy Lays Naturals which only have potatoes, seasalt, and canola oil, and I do ok with those. Sometimes I feel a little weird so I stopped eating those since I was unsure if I was getting mildly cced. I don't know if it's the canola oil, though, giving me tummy bubbles. :unsure: I don't eat many greasy things so I think my body might just not be used to them. I haven't tried the regular Lays in a long time. I keep hearing not so good things about Lays though.


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larry mac Enthusiast

I've been eating Frito Lay products virtually every day since being gluten-free (1

TestyTommy Rookie

Check the threads in the "Food" section on this site. Lots of people (including me) react to Lays chips. Stax are the only chips made on dedicated lines. I had lots of problems with plain Lays potato and corn chips. I don't recommend eating them.

There are two problems with oats: (1) many brands of oats have CC issues and (2) while oats do not contain gluten, they do contain a protein that is chemically very similar to gluten, and some celiacs react to oats. Don't listen to people who make blanket statements that oats are safe for celiacs; you need to make that determination for yourself.

jerseyangel Proficient

I had definate problems with Lay's chips. I eat the Stax (plain) with no issues at all.

Phyllis28 Apprentice

I use the "If it makes me sick, I don't eat it" method to all food. If the Lay's have made you sick remove them from your diet and find something else to replace them. I like Mission Tortilla Chips. The bags I buy at Costco say gluten free right on the bag.

Jestgar Rising Star

I wonder if different factories have different levels of CC. I've eaten Lays (west coast) with no problems.

Or I suppose those east coasters could just be more whiny vocal.

jerseyangel Proficient
Or I suppose those east coasters could just be more whiny vocal.

Cute, Missy :P

I have read here that the Lays made in the Plano, Texas plant don't seem to cause the CC problems that the others do.

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