Mouth Irritation and Sores

[Ginger38]

Anyone ever have mouth sores/ulcers and oral irritation? what causes this??   I’m having a terrible time with these issues right now. I’m not sure what I can do to help and it’s really starting to worry me 

[knitty kitty]

Deficiencies in Vitamin B12 and Vitamin C can cause those.  

[Sabaarya]

23 hours ago, Ginger38 said:

Anyone ever have mouth sores/ulcers and oral irritation? what causes this??   I’m having a terrible time with these issues right now. I’m not sure what I can do to help and it’s really starting to worry me 

I do have those issues and also get swollen gums not all gums,like part of them get swollen and sensitive. 

[Ginger38]

6 minutes ago, Sabaarya said:

I do have those issues and also get swollen gums not all gums,like part of them get swollen and sensitive. 

It’s painful and makes it hard to eat, can I ask what you do to treat the issue? 

[Sabaarya]

3 minutes ago, Ginger38 said:

It’s painful and makes it hard to eat, can I ask what you do to treat the issue? 

It comes and goes. I don’t treat but it definitely bothers me and worries me a lot. Just started taking vitamin C and also had blood work on Monday waiting for results. I’ve asked my doctor to check for all minerals and vitamins… I was diagnosed last summer and started the proper diet 6 months ago,still get occasional hand tingling,ear buzzing. Don’t know if it’s related to celiac still…

[Scott Adams]

Canker sores are a common symptom of untreated celiac disease, and here are some research articles on this topic:

https://www.celiac.com/search/?&q=stomatitis&type=cms_records2&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles

[Blue-Sky]

Lysine and vitamins may help with canker sores.

[Ginger38]

On 6/16/2022 at 11:51 PM, Sabaarya said:

It comes and goes. I don’t treat but it definitely bothers me and worries me a lot. Just started taking vitamin C and also had blood work on Monday waiting for results. I’ve asked my doctor to check for all minerals and vitamins… I was diagnosed last summer and started the proper diet 6 months ago,still get occasional hand tingling,ear buzzing. Don’t know if it’s related to celiac still…

I have a lot of numbness and tingling-didnt realize celiac could cause all this 

On 6/17/2022 at 3:24 PM, Scott Adams said:

Canker sores are a common symptom of untreated celiac disease, and here are some research articles on this topic:

https://www.celiac.com/search/?&q=stomatitis&type=cms_records2&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles

Mine is definitely untreated at the moment.and prior to this bad flare up I had been bad 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

[DebJ14]

On 6/17/2022 at 2:24 PM, Scott Adams said:

Canker sores are a common symptom of untreated celiac disease, and here are some research articles on this topic:

https://www.celiac.com/search/?&q=stomatitis&type=cms_records2&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles

After I went Gluten Free, my lifelong battle against those mouth ulcers ended.  I haven't had one in 15 years.  My dentist was thrilled, and very interested in the gluten connection.  I gave him several articles to read.  He said he has refered many patients to the local doctor best known for treating gluten sensitivity/celiac and said that every patient so far has come back positive for celiac disease.  With my permission he has given them my contact information so that I can help them understand the gluten-free diet.

[Jagorcevina]

On 6/16/2022 at 12:16 AM, Ginger38 said:

Anyone ever have mouth sores/ulcers and oral irritation? what causes this??   I’m having a terrible time with these issues right now. I’m not sure what I can do to help and it’s really starting to worry me 

Please be aware that we (celiac, gluten-free sensitive etc people) have also week digestive system. Candida thrive in such bodies.

After 10 years of that miserable condition, I was healed by strong dose of antibiotics BACTRIM, (pills NO solution full of sugar) taken for totally unrelated issue. It never came back. Coffee enema helped a lot to get rid of tons of rubbery silky stuff. I know gross. I’m tiny, no sugar and gluten for 15 years, but it was mounting since childhood. B12 would help also. 

[Scott Adams]

I don't believe that a coffee enema would be helpful for canker sores, or anything else. I am pretty sure that this "treatment" isn't recommended by any reputable medical doctors, however, the antibiotics are what likely rid your system of the candida. 

[Teidra]

On 6/16/2022 at 2:09 AM, knitty kitty said:

Deficiencies in Vitamin B12 and Vitamin C can cause those.  

 

On 6/16/2022 at 11:37 PM, Sabaarya said:

I do have those issues and also get swollen gums not all gums,like part of them get swollen and sensitive. 

 

On 6/16/2022 at 12:16 AM, Ginger38 said:

Anyone ever have mouth sores/ulcers and oral irritation? what causes this??   I’m having a terrible time with these issues right now. I’m not sure what I can do to help and it’s really starting to worry me 

Hi so I changed my tooth paste .. gluten free brands but sometimes I still get a few random bumps in my mouth , just make sure u stay consistent on the diet … I have gluten free two years since diagnosed. It’s so hard 

[Twixton]

On 6/15/2022 at 9:16 PM, Ginger38 said:

Anyone ever have mouth sores/ulcers and oral irritation? what causes this??   I’m having a terrible time with these issues right now. I’m not sure what I can do to help and it’s really starting to worry me 

 

On 6/15/2022 at 9:16 PM, Ginger38 said:

Anyone ever have mouth sores/ulcers and oral irritation? what causes this??   I’m having a terrible time with these issues right now. I’m not sure what I can do to help and it’s really starting to worry me 

I have Celiac also, I would get these painful welts/sores that would cover the top of my elbow to mid forearm or cover my ankle to my toes, very painful and itchy. They would only come out during a gluten attack. My Dr. diagnosed it as a complication of being badly glutened, it’s called Dermatitis Herpetiformis.  He prescribed a cream called Triamcinolone Acetonide 1%, or Triderm. You’ll have to get a prescription from your Dr.   It cleared up after about a week, but it gave pretty good immediate relief.  Now like you, I’ve been getting the burning/itchy sores around the outside of my lips around the times I get gluttened. I tried the same cream thinking it was related and it really healed them up fast and took the pain away.   We sound like we’re having the same experience, good to know on my end too, but do some research on this condition to see if it fits your symptoms. Some of the pics looked just like my arm. Oh, and it comes in a pill form, but that’s only for an all over the body problem.

 I hope this helps, I know how awful and painful it can be, especially when trying to get to sleep.

Take care & good luck.

Dave

[Ginger38]

On 6/22/2022 at 11:02 AM, Teidra said:

 

 

Hi so I changed my tooth paste .. gluten free brands but sometimes I still get a few random bumps in my mouth , just make sure u stay consistent on the diet … I have gluten free two years since diagnosed. It’s so hard 

Very hard 

On 6/29/2022 at 6:08 PM, Twixton said:

 

I have Celiac also, I would get these painful welts/sores that would cover the top of my elbow to mid forearm or cover my ankle to my toes, very painful and itchy. They would only come out during a gluten attack. My Dr. diagnosed it as a complication of being badly glutened, it’s called Dermatitis Herpetiformis.  He prescribed a cream called Triamcinolone Acetonide 1%, or Triderm. You’ll have to get a prescription from your Dr.   It cleared up after about a week, but it gave pretty good immediate relief.  Now like you, I’ve been getting the burning/itchy sores around the outside of my lips around the times I get gluttened. I tried the same cream thinking it was related and it really healed them up fast and took the pain away.   We sound like we’re having the same experience, good to know on my end too, but do some research on this condition to see if it fits your symptoms. Some of the pics looked just like my arm. Oh, and it comes in a pill form, but that’s only for an all over the body problem.

 I hope this helps, I know how awful and painful it can be, especially when trying to get to sleep.

Take care & good luck.

Dave

Thanks for this information, I sure hope you get to feeling better! This journey is tough!! 

[Caligirl57]

I’m so sorry to hear about your mouth issues. I have suffered from linchen planus since 2016. We were living in the UK at the time. The dentist told me it is an autoimmune disease and he sees it in a lot of celiac patients. He prescribed medicine. It took a couple of days but I did get relief. 

Since, we moved back to the states, my dentist prescribed a prescription mouth wash. I got almost instant relief. Mine flares up when I’m under A LOT of stress. I was told some people get this on their shins. 

I encourage you to go to your dentist, not the doctor. Best of luck!

 

[Teidra]

6 minutes ago, Caligirl57 said:

I’m so sorry to hear about your mouth issues. I have suffered from linchen planus since 2016. We were living in the UK at the time. The dentist told me it is an autoimmune disease and he sees it in a lot of celiac patients. He prescribed medicine. It took a couple of days but I did get relief. 

Since, we moved back to the states, my dentist prescribed a prescription mouth wash. I got almost instant relief. Mine flares up when I’m under A LOT of stress. I was told some people get this on their shins. 

I encourage you to go to your dentist, not the doctor. Best of luck!

 

Also ENT doctors do treat  lichen planus as well .. I have worked for an ENT for 11 years and yes it’s mouth wash they call it  magic mouth wash 

[Posterboy]

On 6/29/2022 at 5:08 PM, Twixton said:

 

I have Celiac also, I would get these painful welts/sores that would cover the top of my elbow to mid forearm or cover my ankle to my toes, very painful and itchy. They would only come out during a gluten attack. My Dr. diagnosed it as a complication of being badly glutened, it’s called Dermatitis Herpetiformis.  He prescribed a cream called Triamcinolone Acetonide 1%, or Triderm. You’ll have to get a prescription from your Dr.   It cleared up after about a week, but it gave pretty good immediate relief.  Now like you, I’ve been getting the burning/itchy sores around the outside of my lips around the times I get gluttened. I tried the same cream thinking it was related and it really healed them up fast and took the pain away.   We sound like we’re having the same experience, good to know on my end too, but do some research on this condition to see if it fits your symptoms. Some of the pics looked just like my arm. Oh, and it comes in a pill form, but that’s only for an all over the body problem.

 I hope this helps, I know how awful and painful it can be, especially when trying to get to sleep.

Take care & good luck.

Dave

Twixton,

Start taking you a B-Complex with meals and these symptom's should start improving. You have developed Pseudo Pellagra aka Pellagra Sine Pellagra or Pellagra without extensive skin issues.

The mouth sores, and geographic tongue and leaky lips can be a sign of a Riboflavin aka Vitamin B-2 Deficiency.

Here is a nice article about it.

https://glutenfreeworks.com/health/tongue-magenta-swollen/

The per fuse skin issues  happen when you have finally developed full blown or Clinical Pellagra......

Sub-Clinical or Psuedo Pellagra usually has only limited Skin issues.

Here is the research that shows how a B-Complex will help mouth ulcers.

Entitled "Recurrent aphthous ulceration: vitamin B1, B2 and B6 status and response to replacement therapy" IE Supplementation...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1941656/

You could also start taking some Lysine.....it helps by lowering your cortisol levels in the body.

See this article about it....

Entitled "Oral treatment with L-lysine and L-arginine reduces anxiety and basal cortisol levels in healthy humans"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17510493/

If I ever have a mouth sore ever now (which I rarely ever do now) taking some Lysine supplements always causes it/them to go into remission again.....but I used to have these same symptoms,.......angular cheilitis, geographic tongue and mouth sores constantly.......and they didn't get better until I took some Riboflavin  and why I know I had Psuedo or Sub-clinical Pellagra going diagnosed.

Here is a Posterboy blog post that might be of help too you!

Good luck on your continued journey!

2 Timothy 2:7  “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included.

Posterboy by the grace of God,

ETA: from the link on Mouth Ulcers.....this research is 30+ years old and the doctor's still have not endorsed supplementation with B-Complex Vitamins for mouth ulcers!

Quoting from the above abstract....Recurrent aphthous ulceration: vitamin B1, B2 and B6 status and response to replacement therapy" IE Supplementation...

"At the end of therapy and after a follow-up period of 3 months, only those patients who had a B complex deficiency had a significant sustained clinical improvement in their mouth ulcers. Vitamin B1, B2 and B6 deficiencies should, therefore, be considered as another possible precipitating factor in recurrent aphthous ulceration."

Why would they? If you took the proper Vitamins you won't need their drugs? at least I found it to be so in my case.....you can know in about 3 months if this research is correct? As I believe it to be......but I will caution frequency is very important when taking any B-Vitamin......once a day is not enough.....it needs to be taken frequently like 2x or 3x a day for 2 to 3x months for best results.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Posterboy
Left out a quote from a link to an abstract

[Suzisqueue]

A lot of periodontal disease is directly related to gut microflora. Targeting on that and balancing out the good bugs from the bad bugs can make a significant impact. Your body may also be physically worn down, so exercise, and if you're terribly stressed try some psych meds. When there's too much of one gut bug over the other, it can cause Herpes 1 outbreaks. Herpes 1 is a virus we're all infected with.

I'd try holding Manuka honey in your mouth, and putting it in your food. Also chewing Mastic Gum (it's a tree sap, just like gum) that has antimicrobial and antiviral properties. May help.

Do you have dry mouth to? Lot of us have Sjorgrens - causes all sorts of eye, sinus and gum problems. : (

Hope something here may help. This is all just my opinion. Take you you need and leave the rest. Hope you feel better!!

Peace. ; )