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I will pray for you C...

I am late now, I leave you in the good company of the nice ppl here in this thread. I pm'd you my personal email if you just want some one to talk to about this.

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O? So you think you have Lyme's now? I am sorry but this thread is very hard on ppl like me to follow, last I understand dairy was okay, MSG and CORN were out, and something that started with an Au was bad. *so confused* :huh: So is the Lyme's instead of , or inaddtion to?

Vincent...a recap for you and anyone else who may be confused by the constant changes I go through. :rolleyes:

Been sick 4 years now...symptoms came on after a camping trip and dental work which coincidently took place during the same week. 3 months after onset of symptoms I had to go on disability....was off work 2 years...progressively getting worse. Original thoughts were mercury toxicity or Lyme Disease. There were alot of deer around our campsite and I had a weird bite with a ring around it but it was small and I cant recall the exact timing of the bite. I mentioned both of these possibilities to every doctor I saw but continuously got dismissed and told it was "in my head".

I tested positive for gluten intolerance but the gluten-free diet didnt stop whatever was going on in my body. The weight loss I experienced is from more than just gluten intolerance...also the malabsorption...clearly not from gluten after having been on the diet for more than a year now.

I'm now sensitive to almost all chemicals....cant eat anything processed...cant be around perfumes or other strong scents...etc. I manage my symptoms and appear healthy (for the most part) only because I'm so strict with my diet and avoidance of chemicals.

The first specialist I saw was the neurologist (4 yrs ago) because I had alot of neurological symptoms going on. I asked her about Lyme but she said I dont have it...just by looking at me. :huh:

A couple years later I askeed my primary to test me...he said people dont get Lyme in Ca. Thats total BS...and I'm not talking about blood sugar! :angry: They also had a flyer about Lyme Disease and prevention in the waiting room!

I begged to be tested...he sent me to the infectuous disease specialist. The guy ridiculed me, basically told me I was crazy (suggested I see a shrink) and he refused to test me for Lymes. I told him something was really wrong but changing my diet to totally organic and unprocessed had helped with the symptoms. He said it was the placebo effect....whatever was wrong was in my head. :angry:

I got better Dr.'s early this year and they ran alot of tests but failed to diagnose me....they wanted me to see a more knowledgeable Dr. to look into mercury toxicity. I saw him a couple weeks ago....told him all my symptoms and he asked if I'd been tested for Lyme. He said Lyme Disease causes chemical sensitivities and alot of my other symptoms so we need to test for that first.

I think I could definately have it but have just been ignored for the past 4 years so without treatment I wouldnt get better no matter how much I restrict my diet. The new Dr. said I cant have dairy anymore because it would make my allergies even worse. I have to stay on an organic unprocessed diet and no sugar.

***I dont have the reults yet***

I just have a feeling they're gonna make me wait till my appt. on Tuesday.

The Dr. never called me back. :(

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***I dont have the reults yet***

I just have a feeling they're gonna make me wait till my appt. on Tuesday.

The Dr. never called me back. :(

Rachel,

I suspect that they will want to talk about it in person.....not over the phone.

When I had my bloodwork done for my elevated liver enzymes they made me come in. It was negative for hepatitis but they wouldn't tell me that over the phone.

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Rachel, I laughed so hard at the constant "you're crazy its not Lyme" from doctors, then going to a doctor for mercury testing only to have him say "Have you been tested for Lyme?"

Gotta love Doctors.

***I dont have the reults yet***

I just have a feeling they're gonna make me wait till my appt. on Tuesday.

The Dr. never called me back. :(

I hate it when Doctors do that crap. I just keep pestering them. We pay them to give us answers, you've paid for it. Now go get your answer. :)

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Christine,

You are right, an abortion is going to kill your baby and you will live with that the rest of your life. Don't do it. If your boyfriend is 40 years old, lives with his parents, and wants the easy way out on this, he is not the guy for you. He is afraid of reality and responsibility. I can only hope that was his impulse and not his thought out answer. You saw the ultrasound. It's a beautiful, living baby with a beating heart!!

There are many people waiting to get a baby. Vincent is one. I would also adopt your baby, not that I'm in line for one like Vincent is, but I have a big family and I'd take a baby any day of the week! The expenses of the pregnancy would be covered, you won't have to pay a thing. You will live knowing that you did the best you can for your child.

On the other hand, you could have the baby and keep him/her. There are a lot of single mothers out there raising kids on their own. There are crisis pregnancy centers in about every city who can give you references for help and even gather things you need, including cribs, etc.

Either scenario, I would get the boyfriend to write you a note saying he wants you to get an abortion and why and give you the money for the abortion (that you aren't going to get!!). That way when he comes back later for his paternity rights, you can show any judge that he wanted you to abort and have proof of it. Make a copy of his check to prove it. Document any conversations you have with him including the date and time.

We're here for you. If you need to talk to someone, you are also welcome to PM me your phone number and I'll call you or send you mine. Having the baby is the brave, responsible, loving thing to do.

Carla

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Hi everyone,

I found out im 7 weeks pregnant.

I was feeling tired and my tooth was bothering me a lot, and after the root canal, I threw up all night long.

I took a preg test the next day cause I reazlied i hadent had my period, was feeling tired and having worse headaches than normal.

Its positive, I had an untra sound done and everything looks normal, the baby looks like a little lima bean, its so cute.

Anyways I told my boyfriend about it , at first he was very loving and seemed ok then i said i might want to keep it and he switched and got scarred. and he wants me to get an abortion. He says hes not ready to commit to a baby now, but he is 40years old. and im only 26. He said hes afaraid it would be overwhelming, and he is living in his moms house right now anyways. We dont live together and he hasent offered to marry me and its been 1 1.5 years weve been together. Neither of us have been married or have any kids. He says he cant take care of me, and he is scarred of the responsibility, financially and not ready to be a parent. hes always joked about getting me preg. to be romantic, but now he really has and doesnt want to go through with it, he said he wants to have kids eventually and maybe marry me later if for sure we are right for eachother, and we are married with a house.

I feel the same way about being scarred because I havent finished my nursing school, or got my career started and but most of all, I dont have his support, I dont want to be a single mom, and I dont think I will have the backing of my family on this one.

I cannot barely support myself and im still in school, and he is an engineer its not like hes poor hes just maybe selfish, and wants to do things the right way like get married first and then plan the kids.

I dont understand why he would want to kill his own baby.

I really upset and not sure what to do, I dont want to have an abortion and kill my child, but I cant finacially do it without the support and I dont want to be a single mom and school.

I love this baby tho, I feel so hurt and confused.

on top of everything else. ya know.

C

Christina,

I agree with whats been said already....If you want the baby things have a way of working themselves out. Adoption is not a bad idea if you dont think you can manage as a single parent.

At this point I wouldnt rely on your boyfriend. He hasnt been there for you the entire time you've been sick...how is he going to be there for this child?? He's making it clear he's not interested in being a parent right now so you need to decide whats best for you and this baby.

I hope you can make the best decision for your future. I know you think your parents wont help but in the end they're gonna love you and support you much more than your boyfriend ever has or could. Dont base your decisions on anything he says because he's not thinking of you or your baby....he's thinking of himself.

Rachel,

I suspect that they will want to talk about it in person.....not over the phone.

When I had my bloodwork done for my elevated liver enzymes they made me come in. It was negative for hepatitis but they wouldn't tell me that over the phone.

I've always been able to get my test results over the phone when I was with Kaiser....the only exception was when they gave me an AIDS test. I guess its a rule that they dont give those results over the phone no matter what. This is a new Dr. though and I'm not sure how he handles things over there. :unsure:

Rachel, I laughed so hard at the constant "you're crazy its not Lyme" from doctors, then going to a doctor for mercury testing only to have him say "Have you been tested for Lyme?"

:lol:

Yeah...how ironic is that??? :blink:

It will be even more crazy if I actually have Lyme Disease after all this time. I think I would write a letter to that "so called" Infectuous Disease Specialist I saw and maybe even some of the other Dr's who ridiculed me. I dunno....it would be alot of letters....and every last one of them would be sent to Kaiser. :angry:

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Christine,

It dosen't sound to me like you want to terminate your pregnancy--please don't let your boyfriend talk you into anything. I'm sorry to say this, but he sounds terribly immature--even at 40. If he's not ready now, and willing to step up to his responsibilites, he never will be.

Of course you already love this baby--if you truly want to keep him or her, you can. It may not be easy, but it can be done--plenty of other women have done it. I always say this, but I really believe it--everything has a way of working itself out.

I noticed you said you don't think your family will back you--they may very well surprise you. Of course, I know nothing about them or your relationship, but it's worth a try.

My personal belief is that if you just can not deal with the reality of raising a child, adoption is a wonderful choice. I have a cousin who is adopted. As you know, there are so many families who are waiting to adopt.

Take your time and don't let anyone put pressure on you.

If there's anything I can do, or if you need to talk further--I'm here.

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Christine - I echo what everyone else has said....wow...such a major thing - the boyfriend doesn't sound so supportive though, and you do need all the support you can get. Hugs.

Rachel - can't believe you're still waiting (and keeping US all waiting!) :o

Nashville - the most fantastic city! The travel stop thing is such a good idea - we must come up with a name for it but I'm not "on my game" today and can't think....BTW I'm in the middle of CA if anyone's ever here :) About three hours from Sacto, so let me know if you girls go....

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Christine,

It dosen't sound to me like you want to terminate your pregnancy--please don't let your boyfriend talk you into anything. I'm sorry to say this, but he sounds terribly immature--even at 40. If he's not ready now, and willing to step up to his responsibilites, he never will be.

Of course you already love this baby--if you truly want to keep him or her, you can. It may not be easy, but it can be done--plenty of other women have done it. I always say this, but I really believe it--everything has a way of working itself out.

I noticed you said you don't think your family will back you--they may very well surprise you. Of course, I know nothing about them or your relationship, but it's worth a try.

My personal belief is that if you just can not deal with the reality of raising a child, adoption is a wonderful choice. I have a cousin who is adopted. As you know, there are so many families who are waiting to adopt.

Take your time and don't let anyone put pressure on you.

If there's anything I can do, or if you need to talk further--I'm here.

This is VERY good advice. I wish I could have said it so well. We have an adopted son, he's just like our other 5 children. It's a good choice. Your raising him is a great choice.

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Well...it looks like I'm not gonna know the results today. :(

Dave is picking me up right now....going to Whole Foods and gonna watch a movie and hopefully forget about the fact that I dont know anything yet. :rolleyes:

Have a good night all. :)

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We must never forget the auxigro! :lol:

:lol::lol: Donna, you crack me up. I hope this means you are in better spirits with all of your jokes, you sure always keep me in stitches!

Lots of action in the OMG thread today, bird nest removal, power washing, road trips...

Richard, welcome to the OMG thread :)

I hope you guys can get together. If you do you have to take pictures and share with those of us who can't meet up.

Rachel, I hope you get your test results soon. Can you call first thing in the am and let them know you want to have the results, that the waiting has been very emotionally stressful on you? Maybe they can get the doctor to call you and put your mind at ease. Just a thought.

Christina, I second, and third, and fourth everyone elses sentiments. Just to add, one of my favorite quotes goes something like, ..."when a door closes, a window opens..." There are always options, ALWAYS. Decide what is best for you and the baby and surround yourself with supportive people,rather than people who are only looking out for themselves. Good luck with sorting all of this out.

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Well...it looks like I'm not gonna know the results today. :(

Dave is picking me up right now....going to Whole Foods and gonna watch a movie and hopefully forget about the fact that I dont know anything yet. :rolleyes:

Have a good night all. :)

Enjoy Whole Foods! (the health food stores here are half the size of 7-11 and soooooooooo much more expensive than Whole Foods - I know it's hard to believe). I hope you get your results soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Christine,

I have a dear friend who had an abortion when she was young and she has tormented herself so all these years. If you cannot keep the baby, there are so many loving people that would truly be blessed to help you and the baby. One of my clients had a baby last Monday and I was there at the hospital all day with her

I know you will have the support you need.

Rachel,

I guess just call everyday and ask them to please tell you what they found out. Maybe tomorrow you'll know.

Hi all -- Prayers for all tonight.

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Christine,

I have a dear friend who had an abortion when she was young and she has tormented herself so all these years. If you cannot keep the baby, there are so many loving people that would truly be blessed to help you and the baby. One of my clients had a baby last Monday and I was there at the hospital all day with her

I know you will have the support you need.

Unfortuinitly I know a very simular story, with the same out come. :( Everytime she sees a child that would be about the same age.... :(

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Hi Christina,

I'm sorry you're in such a difficult situation. Your boyfriend doesn't sound at all supportive.

I'm really disappointed that you've recieved such categorical advice so far. This is something you need to decide for yourself and no one else can easily advise you. You need to decide what you want and what you're prepared to do.

You can go to a family planning agency to discuss options. Also, discuss it with your doctor. Talk to whoever you have as a sounding-board tfor your thoughts, but whatever you decide is between you, your partner and your conscience.

My very best wishes,

Matilda

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Enjoy Whole Foods! (the health food stores here are half the size of 7-11 and soooooooooo much more expensive than Whole Foods - I know it's hard to believe). I hope you get your results soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Mango!!

We actually went to a brand new Whole Foods last night. We had tried to go there the day I had my Dr's appt. 2 weeks ago but they werent opened yet....we were one day too early. OMG....the place is HUGE!!! They have so much stuff its crazy....too bad I canmt eat most of it. :(

They have a pizza bar, ice cream bar, and all kinds of other stuff in the deli and bakery area. Produce Dept was so big it was overwhelming!!

Donna have you been to it yet???

Dave and 2 of my other closest friends are all Safeway managers in the area of the new Whole Foods...all of their stores have taken a big hit due to the opening of the WF. My best friends store especially...since its the closest to the WF....she said its ok if I shop there cuz I have no choice really (cant eat regular food :rolleyes: ) but noone else we know is allowed to purchase anything from that store. :lol:

Rach...

So do are you thinking that if you do have Lymes and it gets cured (is it cureable?) that you will be able to eat again?

Vincent,

Its not always cureable but yeah....I'm hoping. I've been reading about it and other peoples experiences with Lyme....I've read that alot of the times once the infection is treated the chemical and food sensitivities subside. I'd imagine that with the Lyme putting sooo much stress on the immune system, digestive system and everything else that things would definately improve with proper treatment. It really depends on how advanced the Lyme is and also other factors such as co-infections that always go along with Lyme.

From what I've read alot of people dont get better from antibiotics alone....its a very complex disease affecting the entire body so in many cases a combo of antibiotics and alternative treament is required. Alot of different areas probably would have to be addressed....food sensitivities, digestive system, adrenals. etc. My doc said I'll probably always have to be careful of what I eat though and eat more on the healthy side.

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Hi Christina,

I'm sorry you're in such a difficult situation. Your boyfriend doesn't sound at all supportive.

I'm really disappointed that you've recieved such categorical advice so far. This is something you need to decide for yourself and no one else can easily advise you. You need to decide what you want and what you're prepared to do.

You can go to a family planning agency to discuss options. Also, discuss it with your doctor. Talk to whoever you have as a sounding-board tfor your thoughts, but whatever you decide is between you, your partner and your conscience.

My very best wishes,

Matilda

Matilda,

Please read again what was said... I think you missed somthing.

She only has 3 choices...

1) Kill the baby, she said she did not want do to this.

2) Raise the baby her self (very tough on a single mom, but do able)

3) Let some one else raise the baby

More one person recomded she check with ppl for help, I gave her Bethany's number, some one else mentioned Crissis Pregency Center's, etc, and two of us offered to adopt the child.

We have been supportive, and offered information, and love. If that is "catagorical" in your eyes, then I am proud to be "catagorical"

Vincent,

Its not always cureable but yeah....I'm hoping. I've been reading about it and other peoples experiences with Lyme....I've read that alot of the times once the infection is treated the chemical and food sensitivities subside. I'd imagine that with the Lyme putting sooo much stress on the immune system, digestive system and everything else that things would definately improve with proper treatment. It really depends on how advanced the Lyme is and also other factors such as co-infections that always go along with Lyme.

From what I've read alot of people dont get better from antibiotics alone....its a very complex disease affecting the entire body so in many cases a combo of antibiotics and alternative treament is required. Alot of different areas probably would have to be addressed....food sensitivities, digestive system, adrenals. etc. My doc said I'll probably always have to be careful of what I eat though and eat more on the healthy side.

I know like nothing about lyme's, with all your research do you think it is right, or just another thing to knock of the list?

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If that is "catagorical" in your eyes, then I am proud to be "catagorical"

Me, too. I just have too many friends who regret their abortions and have yet to meet someone who was satisfied with their "choice". And I'm not even talking exclusively about my "religious" friends. I had to help comfort a friend who started crying every time she saw a small child back when I was in college ... she and I neither one went to church back then. If it jaded me into being "categorical", I'm happy about it. Maybe you've never had to comfort someone afterwards ... I realize there is a choice in this country, and I would hate to see someone who already loves their baby and has seen their baby on ultrasound be pressured by a boyfriend into a decision she doesn't want -- that's not what "choice" is all about. We here are just trying to make it so Christine has another choice other than the one her boyfriend is offering her -- that's what makes it a real choice, and her choice. No one has tried to take her choice away; we've only tried to make it so that she has one.

I realize that there are differing views on abortion here ... I'm not trying to debate, I'm only trying to show, like Vincent did, that we are making it so she has a choice and isn't pressured in any way, be it financial or by her boyfriend.

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WOWEEE, Christina, I'm so sorry you are having to go through this with limited support! The suggestions given here are good ones I think! I have a slightly different perspective than most. I am the result of a situation very much like your own.

My mother was in a situation very similar to yours. She was very young and unmarried when I was conceived and the man she conceived me with was not supportive and wanted no part of her life or mine...I don't believe for a minute that she has ever regretted the decision to keep me.

Granted, back in the 50s, abortions weren't easy to come by, but I don't think she would have chosen that even if she could have. I'm certainly glad she made the decision she did.

She ended up meeting and marrying a man (not my biological father) who raised me with all the love and support that any biological father could have. He adopted me when I was still a toddler, so I never knew he wasn't my biological father until I was in my 30s! I know he never regretted his decision.

It wasn't easy for my mother either though...her own father was not supportive at first, but he came around after I was born and growing up I would have never guessed that there was a time he had shut my mother out. She received a little bit of support from that man's mother, but that stopped at some point. Somehow, working as a housekeeper and at Woolworth's fountain, she found a way to make it work. There's also the stigma that existed back in the 50s for unwed mothers.

Having said all that, you will still have to do what you feel is right in your heart and no one knows your heart like you do. Just know that there are people who will support you regardless of what you decided to do.

Donna have you been to it yet???

Hum, not yet...my co-worker was telling me about it. Where is it, lol? I must admit that sometimes I sort of tune out my co-worker a little. :ph34r: I must go see it though.

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:lol::lol: Donna, you crack me up. I hope this means you are in better spirits with all of your jokes, you sure always keep me in stitches!

Yep, slightly better mood! I think the vacation thing did the trick, lol. No time to fret whilst planning a vacation, lol. Our cruise ends on a Tuesday, but both my friend and I are taking the whole week of and since the cruise leaves out of and returns to Ft. Lauderdale, she said we ought to take a little side trip to Disneyworld! I think that sounds about perfect! :lol: May regret spending all this money, but at least I'll be in a good mood whilst sitting in the poor house. :lol:

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Donna,

Sounds like you and friend will have a great time on your vacation!

Thank you for sharing your story with us. All things work out in the end. Now if we could just keep faith in that we'd be ok through whatever came our way. Easier said than done isn't it?

I'm really feeling like I need a vacation, hubby too. If I get away down to California for a weekend then he'd still be in the same boat up here. I'll still come down when we can all agree on a weekend. I'm excited to be able to meet some of you in person....whoever can make it.

Seth and I have been sleeping entirely too late the last two days and we haven't even started school yet. Off we go....

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Christine,

I have to echo what has been said so far. I think your boyfriend needs to wake up. PLEASE do not let him pressure you into anything. HE says he is scared. When I found out my wife was pregnant, I was also scared, and we planned it. There is a lot of emotion involved when you get news like that. He MAY be confusing scared for something else, but it is not likey give everything else you said.

In the end, it is your decision, but I would hate to see you in pain forever haveing made a decision you could notlive with. I lost a baby many years ago, as a result of a miscarriage, and I still have a hard time when I see kids that may have been the same age.

Please think about all you options very carefully, but I would say that if you do nto want to raise your child asa single mom, than adoption is an AWESOME option. I know several people that are looking to adopt right now.

I will pray for you.

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I'm really disappointed that you've recieved such categorical advice so far. This is something you need to decide for yourself and no one else can easily advise you. You need to decide what you want and what you're prepared to do.

Personally, I saw nothing wrong with the advice given. Obviously noone can make the decision for Christina...nor was anyone trying to. She obviously posted here for support and thats what she got. She said she was confused...not sure what to do...and the people here pointed out all of the possible options available to her. She said she wanted to have the baby. I'm not sure why you would be disappointed in the responses she got. :unsure:

Donna,

Thanks for sharing your story. :)

The new Whole Foods is on El Camino in Mt. View (by Showers Drive). I usually shop at the one in Cupertino. Eventually this one will close....they're building a new one right across the street from it and its suppossed to be even bigger than the one in Mt. View.

I kind of went against the advice of my doctor and I bought some ice cream last night. :ph34r: Honestly....I havent felt any better NOT eating it so I figured...why not?? Dave tried to stop me from getting it but when I get something in my head there's no stopping me. :rolleyes:

I said I would only eat a little and definately not Rachel it. I kind of got carried away and pretty soon I had tuned everything out *but* the ice cream. I got "lost" in my ice cream. :lol:

Dave noticed that I was pretty focused on the ice cream and took it away before I could Rachel it. It was an ice cream intervention. :P

OMG....it was soooooo good though!!! :D

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