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Good question about the footpads. I dont have the answer but I think I can get one for you. :)

I'll try to find out.

thanks for looking, just curious if you found anything out yet... didn't see anything posted on the past few pages but I could have missed it... not trying to press you to get the info, I'm just hesitant to try anything new right now since I've been feeling bad this week and stopped my meds for a few days... but I'm thinking maybe something like the footpads might help me feel a little better if the reason for me feeling bad has anything to do with toxins or metals being stirred up or whatnot..

Thanks for bringing this up Charlie. :)

I have used them twice now and I would say they have a definite effect, I feel an ache in my feet and calves when they are first on. I'm glad to hear Klinghardt talks about them.

yeah, the handout I got from my LLMD on the footpads was written by klinghardt...

was there any lasting negative or positive effect for you for the next day or whatever after using them? and how bad was the ache and how long did the aches last? I was probably gonna try the footpads in the evening and overnight but might not want to do that if it could cause me leg pain that might make it difficult to sleep... I had leg pains in my teens that made it difficult to sleep and they've come back at times the past couple years, though almost exclusively on nights I play basketball recently...

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Ok before I forget -

Donna! From prior post, Capitol or Berryessa Flea Circus?

And didn't one sell their land to developers? (I'm thinking Berryessa)

I don't know...there are so many people who are walking around who aren't sick from it though...so what's different...does it go back to what you were saying about genetics? Or are those people just able to handle it better somehow. I mean, I think I started getting sick after I started having my amalgams redrilled and then crowned, but I know lots of people who have crowns with amalgams and they aren't sick. They may have a few issues, but NOTHING like what we're going through here.

Not disagreeing with you at all, but just wondering why some of us get so sick and others don't.

[EDIT!! OOPS! DID I GET CARRIED AWAY ON THE GALVANIC WHEN THE COMMENT WAS MORE ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE W/OUT THAT INSANITY BUT W/ MERC ???

(methinks I did . . .. D'oh!!) ]

I didn't do much more than a quick mention before, but this 'galvanic reaction' is SOOOOOO far beyond any intended dentistry it's unfathomable.

I get a nasty taste in my mouth just seeing the words.

It really is the same process as electroplating (like putting chrome on pre-fiberglass fenders), just in reverse.

Bleeeehhhh I'm getting chills imagining it.

Rachel I agree it's enough to "fill the bucket". And a pretty damn big bucket too.

It's horrible that it happened to u.

Sure ppl walk around fine w/ fillings and getting some redrilled and crowns etc etc (incl me), but if getting a constant galvanic reaction in your teeth weren't astronomically rare, ppl wouldn't even GO to dentists!!

<Is astronomically going too far?>

Electro-f******-plating in reverse!!

(Oh damn! Now MY teeth hurt!)

I need to stop thinking about this.

P.S. I went to the Apt pool party today. Never would have had desire or capability for most of last 5-8 yrs.

There was a drawing and when the girl asked my apt # I asked "what am I gonna win?", explaining that it's my lucky day & lucky month even.

3 min later I had my bedroom DVD player.

C'mon Powerball! Just 6 figures, no $27mil req'd.

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Heres some of the mercury detox info from the Dr. K interview:

He uses stool and urine challenge tests for metals and then blood tests to determine minerals.

He says the hair analysis is a wonderful way to monitor success of detox.

You get a baseline which would be the good minerals totally screwed up and the bad stuff not coming out.

(thats pretty much what my hair analysis lokked like)

Once on an effective program you will see toxic metals coming up and the good minerals start to balance out.

This works well except in autistic children or those with blocked detox enzymes because excretion wont come up without alot of work to find the exact program that works for them...its more difficult to treat these cases.

Hair analysis is the best and least expensive way to monitor success of the program but it does not give body burden.

The way to know when you've reduced your body burden significantly is when you see over time the levels of toxins go up and up....and then start coming down while the good minerals are all balanced out.

He says ART is phenomenol and the most reliable indicator for body burden.....the only test he knows of that can find metals in the brain even when they're not coming out on any detox program. They need to be treated until they do come out.

There is no test currently available anywhere in the world to test body burden.

When you do provoked urine with DMPS or DMSA...all you're getting out are the metals in the blood vessels and maybe the adjacent connective tissue. You will not get deep into the brain with it.

There are newer agents available in other countries with more capability for crossing the blood-brain-barrier and reaching deeper areas.

He does not do IV DMPS....instead he injects it directly into the autonomic ganglia and gets profoundly higher values of mercury coming out. He will then know that there is profound toxicity in the Central Nervous System. There are much deeper ways of doing challenge tests other than popping a pill or doing an IV substance.

For practical purposes if you do challenge tests once in awhile while monitoring hair analysis....if significant amounts are coming out over long periods of time then you know you are effectively mobilizing.

If you're doing tests and nothing is coming out and you're assuming nothing is in there....assume you are wrong.

Metals bind in the body in places that are meant for other minerals. Mercury will be found in the same places where the body should usually have magnesium, zinc or copper.

Rule #1 High saturation of mineral nutrition is the single most important thing.You cannot detox somebody unless you offer large overdoses of minerals.

Rule #2 Shuttling the metals. Replace metals with minerals...selenium will compete with mercury and the body will exchange for the selenium. When you saturate the tissues with proper minerals zinc, copper, magnesium..the body will exchange...so now you have mercury floating around.

The only way for the body to move the metals out is to bind it with amino acids found in protein.

You need a high protein diet during the active phase of detox....not forever....but during detox.

The most important amino acids are found in whey protein.

Rule #3 Mercury causes chronic disrupted membranes everywhere in the body. There is severely disrupted fatty acid metabolism.

You need high amounts of good oils. Coconut oil, ghee, palm oil, etc. They need to be tested for tolerance first.

Minerals, protein and oils is the important base....the foundation for heavy metal detox.

Detox can be tricky and difficult....sometimes you have to weave your way through....you need to make it as safe as possible.

Create the foundation...cover all bases...mineral content, fatty acids, amino acids, detox enzymes.....always be on the catious side.

With a proper nutrition base detox can go very smooth....you cant throw in one compound (i.e. DMPS) and be successful...you can get severe problems. If you are hoping to detox the system with one compound you are often out of luck and can have severe crisis.

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Rule #2 Shuttling the metals. Replace metals with minerals...selenium will compete with mercury and the body will exchange for the selenium. When you saturate the tissues with proper minerals zinc, copper, magnesium..the body will exchange...so now you have mercury floating around.

Rule #3 Mercury causes chronic disrupted membranes everywhere in the body. There is severely disrupted fatty acid metabolism.

For Rule #2 I wonder if this is why Seth started breaking out when I was taking selenium and zinc. I was rotating them every other day. Stopped taking them though as he was having problems so I figured mercury was getting moved around somehow.

Rule #3. I wonder if this would apply to Talitha. Her EFA's were deficient.

Tom,

You won a DVD player! That's great! :D

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Forgot who had this problem lately but I know I've heard of it a couple times.

It's when someone writes a post and somehow some or much of it gets lost between clicking [ADD REPLY] & seeing it posted on the thread.

I haven't verified it on a pc, but I believe if u use the [bACK] dropdown box in the browser, and choose TWO back, all your text will be there.

There's an in-between "Please Stand By" page that's most likely just a flash or less on broadband. So just hitting the [bACK] button won't work.

Maybe someone who gets what I'm saying could verify this, just by going "2 back" after any post. (It doesn't have to be an unsuccessful posting to check if the text is there)

P.S. Oh I'm so psyched about my guitar! Probably 8 months late, but I finally took the acoustic to a repair shop today.

It's in ICU as we speak, getting humidified.

Maybe it'll sound great again, maybe it's firewood. Aaaaagh! Pls not firewood!

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. . . . The word was supposed to be whole, . . . . . . :ph34r::lol:

This is the 3rd time I bumped into & read this post and it's an LOL every time!!! :lol:

Now where was that 'monitor shielding' post that also had a necklace type thing mentioned .. . . . . .

From an electro-magnetism standpoint, I'd expect the thing on the monitor to do a better job. It's kinda wire-screen-ish isn't it?

<oops timer went off. time to adjust my nuts>

Laaaayyy-diiiies I'm roasting some cashews!!! <sheesh>

Same old "bring-em-in-raw" food as always, tho I'm wondering now if it's been overkill for like . . . . .maybe 22 months!!

Maybe the candida DID die in 2 strict zero-cheating months, and it's all been the soy since.

I mean, I do drink fermented Redbridge. Only a few months of that, since it got to AZ.

Oh wait, too many things made me dizzy just a few months ago. And 1 small banana bite made that prickly face w/ giant tight rubberband hdache.

But it still seems SOME more foods should be ok.

I made a chart combining my 4 top anti-candida diet's reintroduction foods by phase. Now if I only knew where I put that. :huh::blink:

No-Soy-Boy should remember.

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Hello everyone. I have been out of town, managed to skim the posts but the computer wouldn't let me login and post.

I made a few notes as I went along...

Thanks for the info on xylitol, I checked by googling the Chinese name for xylitol and it looks like it is corn derived at least some of the time.

Fiber options: Have you considered pharmeceutical grade cellulose? That's what I take as I couldn't tolerate any of the fiber preparations or psyllium seed or several others I tried. What I take is gluten free but not sure what it is based on. You should be able to get some at a compounding pharmacy. I get it from my doc.

Jin, thanks for asking. I couldn't find zinc here in Beijing. I'll keep trying though.

Mia, "Gus" gave me a laugh, glad you found out about him. I also had ameoba at one time. It was when I first became ill, and my allergist was astute enough to find it and get the right testing for it. (It disintegrates upon exposure to oxygen hence the special way to get the specimen).

Lisa, I am so sorry you are struggling and hope you can hang in there while you are making decisions for yourself about your health.

Rachel, the notes from the lecture are fascinating! I'm going to listen to the lecture. I was very intrigued about the psych connection. When I did my master's thesis, I studied the psych/physical connection. I was looking at a doctor's practice (he treated chronic illness) to see how a history of sexual abuse correlated with immune system issues like allergies and chemical sensitivities. In my study, there was a clear connection--I mean, people with that psych trauma history were represented in the ill population much higher than in the normal population. Also in the literature, I discovered a lot of study about IBS and the connection with a history of abuse. That was 10 years ago, so it isn't current. But I was surprised and fascinated by what I found. The doctor whose practice I studied told me to look on the wall and those patients with the thickest files all had a history of abuse (he studied psychology as an undergraduate so asked several questions about abuse on his intake forms.) I am not suggesting that abuse causes this illness nor that illness is all in a person's head. Just that our physical and psychological is intimately connected. Stress that isn't resolved impacts the body.

Susie I am so sorry to hear about your MRI results. I hope there is some way to rebuild some of the bone with some supplement support or something.

I appreciated everyone's sharing about their own journey and how psychological stress has been involved at times. That's true for me too although I can't always draw a clear connection.

Interestingly one of the biggest major multiple stress times for me was in 98. I didn't experience either an up or down in my health at that point. Maybe I had learned how to process it better at that point. Not sure.

Sherry

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I don't know how many of you get the monthly celiac.com email update (I think kind of like the newsletter, but free), but I've been reading it for years (ugh now that I think of it!) and I think it's good to see what's new w/out any hunting for it.

Annnnnnyway, just read of some interesting new research.

http://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=1480

Nothing stunning, but definite progress in basic understanding of CompactDisks . . . .D'oh! No! I wrote C-D I did I did I did!!

:o:lol:

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I always think the really thin people look sick ....I tend to think the heavier people look more healthy and have a healthier glow. :unsure:

Of course its not always true but most of the people I think look unhealthy are actually thin and pale.

That, too, but you don't see much of that around here. I don't know if CA is different, but we have a HUGE obesity issue. People who are about 20 pounds overweight look THIN here! :o A significant percentage of women weigh over 200 pounds ... I'm almost always the thinnest person no matter where I go ... I seldom see someone thinner than I ... and I weigh 127 pounds (5'8"). Sometimes the high school or college students at the gym are thinner than me.

These obese people are who I'm talking about ... not the ones carrying a little weight and look like they can walk across the room without getting out of breath.

I don't know...there are so many people who are walking around who aren't sick from it though

Not disagreeing with you at all, but just wondering why some of us get so sick and others don't.

Right ... I'm thinking it's a detox issue ... dentists would be very ill, and most of the ones I know are healthy.

Somewhere below dairy was mentioned. I had thought it was called "creamed corn" just cuz it got beat up so much the kernel guts made the consistency creamy, but wth do I know.

Found recipes w/ butter, cream, and many other options.

When I was dairy-free I couldn't find a creamed corn without dairy. They may exist, but I couldn't find them.

Gotta go!

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I don't know if CA is different, but we have a HUGE obesity issue.

And I don't know if other parts of CA are different, but I don't think there was much obesity in the Bay Area. Even after de-skewing the data to exclude all the tiny asians. (Well, many ARE small!! <5ft even!!)

When the country got tilted so all the nuts rolled to the left, many health nuts rolled too. :)

I take it nobody but me thinks my Powerball winnings will soon be in a Rachelville health fund? C'mon ppl!!! I'm feelin' Lucky (w/ a capital L, and that rhymes w/ Well, as in GET) !!!!! :o

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Right ... I'm thinking it's a detox issue ... dentists would be very ill, and most of the ones I know are healthy.

I do believe that the dentists are mercury toxic...and no they would not necessarily be very ill....it goes back to my post from yesterday.

While some people show very little outward reaction to mercury, even minimal contamination can affect your health.

Recent research by the Toxic Element Research Foundation (TERF) indicates that at least 67% of the test subjects showed a measurable systemic reactivity with mercury and its components as might be expected in patients with amalgam. Patient reactions to the mercury, however, varied.

Some experienced only a slight change in their immune system. This might result in three colds per winter instead of two, or an elevation of 2000-3000 in their white blood cell count. The more highly reactive patient, however, could become totally incapacitated with neurologic, cardiac, gastrointestinal or immune complications resulting from the effects of mercury in the body.

The point is that mercury should not be placed in the mouth- even just a few percent (let alone 67%) of the population react adversely.

Some people can have a single imbalance and be immobilised, while others may have ten imbalances and just have chronic fatigue as a result.

The effects of mercury and other dental toxins will vary from one person to another on the basis of genetic make up, the environment in which they live and additional contributions which have been made by exposure to other toxic materials such as lead, arsenic and cadmium.

Everyone stores mercury.....its not all about detox.....nobody is able to detox every bit of mercury they are exposed to. How it efects them depends on all the things mentioned above....genetics, other environmental factors, exposure to other metals, etc. Some people are highly sensitive to the mercury stored in their bodies....while others are not.

67% of the population will show measurable systemic reactivity to the mercury from amalgams...thats ALOT of people. This means that even if there are no outward symptoms the mercury IS affecting these people.

Dentists DO have high levels of mercury.....this has been documented and studies have been done. Just because the dentist *appears* to be healthy doesnt mean he is. It could be the next major stressor that comes along to push him into chronic illness....or he may never get a chronic illness.

Instead he may have a heart attack...or he may develop cancer....or he might get Alzheimers....all of these things can be caused by mercury.....I dont think there is any disease which cant be associated with mercury. Ultimately, how it affects you depends on your genetic make-up and alot of other factors.

Just because you appeared to be healthy for all those years didnt mean you didnt have Lyme Disease.....its the same thing for the dentists.....they do have alot of exposure to mercury and it does get stored in their tissue and brain.

One of the dentists I was sent to during all of this (back when I still couldnt get anyone to listen about the mercury) told me that HE had been mercury toxic because HE's a dentist. He said he got tested and then went through chelation.

He said that I was NOT mercury toxic because I was NOT a dentist. He said dentists are the ones that get mercury poisoning. :rolleyes:

Anyways....he was not sick like any of us are....even though he was an idiot he was still smarter than most dentists because he *listened* when he was told about mercury and he got himself tested and treated BEFORE he got to the point that he was having obvious problems. I think he said he had memory problems or depression....something liker that....no physical symptoms.

So yeah...he could be your dentist and you would think he was perfectly healthy.....just because he's not showing outward signs doesnt mean he is not toxic.

Even if somebody has no problems with detoxification.....mercury doesnt just leave the body without the agents that are used to remove it. Some might leave on its own....but plenty of it does get stored and thats for *every* person who has or has had amalgams. It affects each persons immune system in different ways.

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I take it nobody but me thinks my Powerball winnings will soon be in a Rachelville health fund? C'mon ppl!!! I'm feelin' Lucky (w/ a capital L, and that rhymes w/ Well, as in GET) !!!!! :o

You obviously did not pay attention in Finite ... you would know what the odds are of winning. I WILL buy one ticket, but I think two for the same week is a waste of money ... does not increase your odds very much.

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Also mercury doesnt just cause the type of illness that many of us are experiencing...it can be behind *any* symptom or disease that a person may be living with

This is just a short list of things

Asthma

Autism

Tremors

Epilepsy

Certain cancers

Memory problems

Shyness Irritability

Depression

MS

Lou Gehrig's Disease

Heart and Kidney problems

Changes in vision or hearing

High blood pressure

Fetal abnormalities

Lung and respiratory illness

Muscle incoordination

Fibromyalgia

Immunological disorders

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I can't argue with what you're saying, I was meaning that they aren't all sick.

I read the study that showed that they had a higher suicide rate. It was flawed ... based on something like two dentists commiting suicide, yet the study is quoted everywhere.

I just think that there's more than one variable in someone getting ill, that's why we have so many things to treat to get better.

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You obviously did not pay attention in Finite ... you would know what the odds are of winning. I WILL buy one ticket, but I think two for the same week is a waste of money ... does not increase your odds very much.

Didn't need to pay attn in Finite!!!

Got an A w/out attending! :P

And I took an insane senior-level "Statistics & Probabilities" class (Math464) where the variables like x & y, instead of standing for numbers, actually stood for entire sets of multi-variable EQUATIONS themselves! :blink:

So, believe me when I say that a 2nd ticket exactly doubles the chances of winning!! EXACTLY!!! :P

Every state I've lived in, I've known the raw odds of matching the #s.

Powerball is ~150million to 1. (156mil might be closer) So when the jackpot exceeds the raw odds, it's known as an "underlay" in gambling parlance. (Oooo haven't seen that word in a while eh soozy?)

And tho it takes rationalizing a probable split prize, the smart money tosses a buck in if the jackpot is $180mil.

But ok, I know it's not a great bet this week. But we're not greedy, and I'm not even hoping for the $27mil!!

(And I had no business winning the DVD player either!!) :lol:

NoSoyBoy's chances are as good an anyone's!!! :):o:)

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I can't argue with what you're saying, I was meaning that they aren't all sick.

I read the study that showed that they had a higher suicide rate. It was flawed ... based on something like two dentists commiting suicide, yet the study is quoted everywhere.

I just think that there's more than one variable in someone getting ill, that's why we have so many things to treat to get better.

Yeah...the studies I saw about suicide rates were based on percentages but then there is alot of disagreement because of inconsistencies.

One study of Oregon dentists found that they had the highest suicide rate of any group investigated. A California study found that dentists were surpassed only by chemists and pharmacists. Of 22 occupations examined in Washington state, dentists had a suicide rate second only to that of sheepherders and wool workers.

Read the studies and you begin to see the problem. Suicide research is inherently a little flaky, in part because suicides are often concealed. Equally important from a statistical standpoint is the problem of small numbers: dentists represent only a small fraction of the total population, only a small fraction of them die in a given year, and only a small fraction of those that die are suicides. So you've got people drawing grand conclusions based on tiny samples. For example, I see where the Swedes think their male dentists have an elevated suicide rate. Number of male-dentist suicides on which this finding is based: 18.

I think in every study its obvious the dentists rank at the top or very high. If there are 100-200 dentists and 18 of them commit suicide...even though 18 doesnt seem like a high number...its still significant considering that dentists represent such a small amount of the population.

Also the other deaths may not be suicides but can still be attributed to mercury toxicity since the autopsies done on dentists undeniably show significant amounts of mercury...far greater than what is found in the rest of the population.

The studies definately support the fact that mercury is higher in dental workers:

This is from a PubMed study:

As dentists and their assistants are usually exposed to mercury in their clinical practices. The objective was to investigate the mercury level in these dental personnel. Urine and head hair samples were collected from 201 dental personnel and 57 unexposed controls for mercury analysis. The mercury content was analyzed by using cold vapour atomic absorption spectrophotometry. The results showed that mercury levels in the urine and head hair of dental personnel were significantly higher than in the controls

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?c...p;dopt=Abstract

I still very much agree with what Dr. Klinghardt is saying and that the mercury is at the *root* of the problem....other things pile on top of that...the infections and other diseases are there *because* of the heavy metals.

So yeah...in the end when someone ends up with a chronic illness....by that time there are many variables....but it seems to start with the heavy metals. Genetics will play the biggest role in how things turn out....what toxins you will be most susceptible to, what areas of your body will be most affected, etc.

Things do pile up but I think it starts with the metals or they wouldnt be finding them in almost every person with the infections and in every person with chronic candida. People dont necessarily get better treating those things but they *do* get better after proper heavy metal detox.

I think that the *root* cause is the metals.....if you cant get rid of the infections w/out first detoxing the mercury...I think that would indicate that the mercury is the root cause and the infection is secondary.

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Rachel, the notes from the lecture are fascinating! I'm going to listen to the lecture. I was very intrigued about the psych connection. When I did my master's thesis, I studied the psych/physical connection. I was looking at a doctor's practice (he treated chronic illness) to see how a history of sexual abuse correlated with immune system issues like allergies and chemical sensitivities. In my study, there was a clear connection--I mean, people with that psych trauma history were represented in the ill population much higher than in the normal population. Also in the literature, I discovered a lot of study about IBS and the connection with a history of abuse. That was 10 years ago, so it isn't current. But I was surprised and fascinated by what I found. The doctor whose practice I studied told me to look on the wall and those patients with the thickest files all had a history of abuse (he studied psychology as an undergraduate so asked several questions about abuse on his intake forms.) I am not suggesting that abuse causes this illness nor that illness is all in a person's head. Just that our physical and psychological is intimately connected. Stress that isn't resolved impacts the body.

Sherry!! I was wondering where you'd been.

Thats all very interesting. I think you will really enjoy listening to the interview since you have some interest in the psychological unresolved issues or traumas.

This part was all very new to me although I was aware that many of the Dr.'s around Dr. K. do put some attention on this....when there is trouble with detox. I never really did any research to find out what that particular part of treatment was all about. I've learned alot the past few days! :)

Obviously there is ALOT of truth in the psychological issues playing a huge role in many cases of chronic illness.

This is the info. I got from the interview where he discusses copper toxicity.

A caller had asked him if he ever comes across this in his patients.

He said that copper mobilized in DMPS or DMSA challenge tests for hair or urine can indicate copper toxicity.

All detox agents preferencially remove copper making it *appear* as if the person is copper toxic and this is often misdiagnosed.

Secondly, somebody with Lyme can have high levels of copper.

The enzymes of the immune system...the white blood cells basically use copper containing compounds to kill microbes. When the white blood cells use copper...the now oxidized copper gets displaced in connective tissue and appears in hair, skin, stool, urine....and is misdiagnosed as copper toxicity.

4 out of 5 times the diagnosis of copper toxicity is wrong and is a by-product of Lyme or other infection.

1 in 5 (in his experience) is true copper toxicity.

So that could be your answer to the high levels of copper!

Hope you get a chance to listen to the whole interview. :)

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Hard to quote the quotes but I think I've got them. I hope so.

Or maybe my attempt will just look weird.

The above are from 2 separate quotes in that post. - can't tell for sure who said them.

But I can't help but comment that the mercury amalgam situation is plenty alarming by itself - there's no need for those ppl quoted to propagate misconceptions and blatantly false statements.

Just seconds of googling found these articles.

Skip 'em, read 'em, whatever.

One very in-depth look at the question is here:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html

And a quote from a separate column by same writer.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msuicide.html

"There is an urban legend, recently repeated on Seinfeld, that dentists have the highest suicide rate of any profession. This is false. "

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd,

At the American Psychological Association site:

http://www.apa.org/monitor/jan01/suicide.html

Quoting the APA:

"And in fact, points out Ronald Maris, PhD, director of the Center for the Study of Suicide and Life-Threatening Behavior at the University of South Carolina, "Occupation is not a major predictor of suicide and it does not explain much about why the person commits suicide." "

Contrarian Spice Strikes Again!!!

<cue theme music>

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I can't argue with what you're saying, I was meaning that they aren't all sick.

I read the study that showed that they had a higher suicide rate. It was flawed ... based on something like two dentists commiting suicide, yet the study is quoted everywhere.

I just think that there's more than one variable in someone getting ill, that's why we have so many things to treat to get better.

Wouldn't dentists also have a high exposure to fluoride, and X-rays, too? And maybe other chemicals, too?

I'm not trying to minimize the effects mercury. I just wonder if the other stuff they are exposed to might be factors as well.

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Just seconds of googling found these articles.

Skip 'em, read 'em, whatever.

One very in-depth look at the question is here:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html

And a quote from a separate column by same writer.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msuicide.html

Tom...I already read that info., posted quotes from it and commented on it in post #20017.

Scroll up to see my comments.

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Also the other deaths may not be suicides but can still be attributed to mercury toxicity since the autopsies done on dentists undeniably show significant amounts of mercury...far greater than what is found in the rest of the population.

Dentists have a longer avg lifespan than the rest of the population.

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Wouldn't dentists also have a high exposure to fluoride, and X-rays, too? And maybe other chemicals, too?

I'm not trying to minimize the effects mercury. I just wonder if the other stuff they are exposed to might be factors as well.

I'm sure those things could be factors but I'm talking about mercury and the fact that the autopsies and urine tests clearly show that the people working in the dental profession have much higher levels of mercury than the rest of the population. Thats what is found in the studies and as far as I know this is not disputed.

They have higher levels of mercury in the urine. They have higher levels of mercury in the brain and other organs.

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Dentists have a longer avg lifespan than the rest of the population.

Please post the studies. :)

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Tom...I already read that info., posted quotes from it and commented on it in post #20017.

Scroll up to see my comments.

LOL ya :lol: I was slow!!!!

Started to see some of same quotes that I'd just read after I clicked [submit reply], just scrolling below that button where 'recent posts' are.

D'oh!!!!!!! :o

Sorry to get all RedundantSpice on y'all!

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Tom...I already read that info., posted quotes from it and commented on it in post #20017.

Scroll up to see my comments.

LOL ya :lol: I was slow!!!!

Started to see some of same quotes that I'd just read after I clicked [submit reply], just scrolling below that button where 'recent posts' are.

D'oh!!!!!!! :o

Sorry to get all RedundantSpice on y'all!

P.S. Lifespan data was in one of the articles we both quoted from!

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