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Dear Kat,

Your liver probably is not functioning properly, either. That can cause high cholesterol levels, and so can a slow thyroid.

You mentioned possibly needing chemotherapy. What for? Do you have Cancer or Lupus? I can see why you would not want to do it if you do not need to. It is a difficult process for your body.

I've wondered recently about my liver, but I'm pretty sure she checked that out in my original work-up. I believe it's fine.

No, I don't have cancer or lupus. I think the chemotherapy drugs she wants me to take are all about immunosuppression. The steroid "treatment" was immunosuppression. It's pretty standard protocol with Nephrologists to take this course of action.

The drug is Cytoxin (sp?) & is taken orally at a lower dose than standard chemo - the side effects are the same though - hair loss, bone loss, all the many & wonderous things that come with immunosuppression and/or chemotherapy.

They want to immunosuppress me in an effort to stop inflammation and auto-immune responses. I refuse to go through immunosuppression again unless I'm certainly going to die - like tomorrow. I feel good physically for the most part, and so, I'm committed to enjoying my life. Immunosuppression takes all that away.

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Dear Rachel,

Thank you for all the awesome information! :) I have it in a file now. The Klinghardt Axiom is so cool! Detoxing really is something that involves everything around and inside of you. Most of the time, that is neglected.

Here in Rachelville, I love the fact we can use any word in the context we choose. We can change it's context. That is what is so fun! I think it should be a law! What do you think?

Dear tom,

Thanks for the support! ;) I read in my numerology report that I am destined to be rich. Someone please tell the stars!

They are neglecting some of us whose Expression Number is 8! Apparently, I deserve good things, but someone forgot to tell karma! :angry:

I do have some good news, though. I am getting Himalayan Sea Salt! Our local healthfood store has it! That should help. I also asked about LLMDs. Karen named my doctor and another who do not go by the CDC approach! It looks like my holistic physician is a good one so far!

Dear Lisa,

It is a relief to hear you are feeling better today! :) I was concerned after the problems you were experiencing from those supplements. Like Rachel said, everyone's body is different. That means different reactions. This is even when the same condition in two people is being treated.

Dear Kat,

I have never heard of a Nephrologist. What do they do? Those treatments are very scary! Side effects like that hardly seem worth it. Hopefully, there is another way to fix the situation.

I am glad your liver work-up was alright. I had panels done on it and my kidneys before. They all were okay. Triglycerides and LDL are troublesome. I cannot wait to find out what else you discover in your research! I would love to hear more about the LDL and how their high level does not necessarily mean heart disease.

Sincerely,

Jin

P.S. I see you Rinne!

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Honestly, I'm not here to debate or to nit-pick about the "correct" definitions of words or phrases. I'm hoping that people get alot more out of my posts than this. :huh:

It took me a good amount of time to take the notes and to post them here for others to read. I could care less about how the dictionary defines "Axiom"...its just a word to me.

However, as I typed that sentence....I had absolutely no doubts that you would post questioning its origin. The true definition of Axiom is irrelevelent to me...what IS relevant to me is the information that follows that sentence.

You can put your pistol down because I'm not here to go back and forth about the meaning of one word.....its pointless to me.

You asked for the source....well the source was Dr. Klinghardt...in the interview I had posted about.

Sheesh, take a breath, I never considered dusting off the ole pistol! :)

And in no way did I insinuate any lessened value of your posts. I happen to strongly believe they have great value!! :)

Also I would never downplay the efforts that go into them. :)

Whether the re-defining of the word to suit their purposes began w/ Germans, the good Dr., or Casper the Ghostly Linguist matters not.

I find any re-defining to suit a purpose destructive to language as it diminishes our capacity as a society to communicate clearly and succinctly.

I take offense to it.

I'd hoped to word my post in a way that would NOT be taken personally.

I highly regret my failure to do so and I apologize for that.

Please accept my apology. :wub:

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I have never heard of a Nephrologist. What do they do? Those treatments are very scary! Side effects like that hardly seem worth it. Hopefully, there is another way to fix the situation.

Crap ! I lost my post !

So, anywayyyyyyy,

What I was saying was ... a nephrologist is a kidney specialist. (I'll have to start pasting this into a document in case I lose it - I can't believe that).

Let me paint a quick picture for you: The filtering devices that filter my blood are leaky. They leak blood proteins (called albumin) out of my blood and into the toilet, if you catch my drift. My blood plasma is missing more than half of what comprises about 60 % of blood plasma. What they're trying to do is stop my immune system from attacking the cells of these membranes.

My kidneys have perfect function as far as kidney function goes - this is not typical. A lot of things about my case are not typical. It's also idiopathic - meaning they can't give any reason why I have it. It's sometimes because of Lupus or AIDS or some other primary problem - but not in others.

EDIT: I don't believe in idiopathic disease. There has to be a reason for this. Hopefully, it's something I can fix. I'm trying to find out what's doing this to me.

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Whats really interesting to me is that as long as I can recall....my entire life maybe....I have NOT been able to hold onto anything. They say that holding things inside is not healthy and its healthier to release them.

Well...this stands true for me. I have always let all of my feeling out...I cant hold them in....or I feel sick! :o

This is what I was thinking about alot yesterday.....I was trying to think if I might have unresolved emotional issues. :unsure:

I remember Anna telling me that she doesnt think I'm holding onto suppressed emotional issues. She did some muscle testing on me once. I didnt much know what that had to do with anything back then and just kind of shrugged my shoulders about it. :huh:

Anyways...I could not think of anything that I might be holding onto. :)

It made me realize that in every circumstance I've been extremely open about my feelings. I dont hold anything inside and I express myself.....I dont hold in my anger, my questions, my sadness, my fears...NOTHING. I've always put it all out there.

Nobody is perfect in relationships...but most people dont TELL their partners *everything*. Well I did....if I did something that was innappropriate.....or if I even *thought* about something I shouldnt be thinking about....I always told on myself. :blink:

I let everything out...and never was capable of keeping secrets. I couldnt understand why everyone else could do this and not be sick from it. :unsure:

I would often stir up trouble in my relationships because of having such a big mouth and telling about every flirtacious encounter or whatever. People would constantly tell me that it was OK to not tell on myself for everything and that it was OK to keep certain things "secret".

They would say "Rachel....you dont have to tell *everything*....sheeesh...no wonder you're always in trouble...people dont reveal everything in relationships!"

Well I know for certain that everytime I tried to hold things inside...I would feel odd. I would feel the symptoms that were similar to my hyperthyroid symptoms....and I would feel alot of anxiety and basically just not feel like myself. The more I held onto something the worse it would get and I could never last more than a couple days without spilling the beans. :rolleyes:

Then....all the symptoms would disappear...and I would feel alot better....except my partner would not always be too happy with me. :ph34r:

....and no I never cheated...I'm not a cheater so its nothing like that. :P

This is the way its been with every emotion...if I'm mad people will know that I'm mad and they will know why. If I'm worried about something....I dont hold that inside either. I dont keep any negative feelings inside.

I've also went to counseling 3 different times just to talk to someone who was not involved in my life....it helped me each time. I would just go....talk to them and that was it...I didnt continue going for ongoing therapy....just once to "get things out".

I did go to a counselor for a couple months back when I was a Kaiser patient and they werent doing anything to help me figure out why I was sick. I was having so much frusteration with the Dr.'s and the counselor helped me deal with that.

It could be the littlest thing and I'd still have to let it out. So yeah....I'm thinking either I had infections my whole life which were always looking for opportunities to grow...but I never gave it to them. Or...I have some genetic defect that might have impaired my ability to detox from the start. <_<

In that case I could have been a slow detoxer all my life but was getting by with the exposures I had. Maybe trying to hold onto any "issue" or hold any emotions inside was pushing it too far??

Looking back I do feel like I burst out with all my feelings and emotions because I was feeling unhealthy holding stuff in...I think maybe it was affecting my ability to detox and thats why I had odd symptoms trying to supress things.

I just dont know if it was the infections impairing my abilty to detox or something genetic. I think I actually stayed healthy because I DIDNT have emotional traumas or things that I was holding inside.

Thats one thing noone can ever accuse me of.....I dont hold anything back and theres nothing about myself or my life that I'm afraid to talk about....people have always told me I'm one of the most open and honest people they've ever met.

With this last break-up I was already very sick for about 9 months before we broke-up. Yeah....THIS I'm sure did me some damage because I was already nearing my worst time with this illness and then I had to deal with a bad break-up on top of it all.

I used to have nightmares for the first couple years...almost every night...about this whole situation. My ex made it more dificult to deal with because I NEED to be open about stuff and to get every feeling and emotion out in the open and to discuss these things....but there was no communication.

Still...it didnt stop me from expressing myself....I did it anyway. :rolleyes:

I think in the past 4 years I've still refrained from holding things inside and so yeah...I've made an a** of myself more times than I care to recall. :P

and yeah....my ex still wont communicate about anything...all the feelings are locked inside somewhere....does not want to think about them at all.....but I still get all my feelings out.....its just that I'm talking to an unresponsive stone wall. :rolleyes:

So what do you guys think?? Do you think I feel sick holding stuff in because I cant detox well?? Do you think that if we hold stuff in it can really affect our bodies ability to excrete toxins?

I know even after 3 years of being out of this realtionship I was in....if I get any type of feelings built up inside...they NEED to come out. I dont care how stupid it makes me look...I just know that it makes me alot sicker to NOT do this.

This is nothing new...its always been this way but now that I'm super toxic....obviously I feel more severe symptoms when under any type of stress....and for me holding stuff inside has always brought on stress and a feeling of unwellness.

Maybe I was just born already broken?? :(

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Those phones probably are not as easy to use as they look. You always need to play with them a bit. Getting used to them is not easy. I have very long finger nails. Those probably would slow you down a lot!

Actually, surprisingly, they ARE as easy as they look!!! The thing is, I type very fast, you just can't type fast with the one or two finger method. :) I could use it to post, but my posts would be short ... Like Tom's. B)

Tom, I think you'd like it. I am going to need to cut my nails, which is fine ... they're just long because I don't take the time to cut them, just file them quickly and move onto something more important ... Adam has no trouble at all typing on it. Go look at them!

Carla....(or anyone else chelating)....I dont know if you noticed this on the stuff that I posted from Dr. Amy's presentation but they always say that kidney support is critical for anyone doing any type of heavy metal detox. Amy listed all of the products that they use for kidney support during detox. The one she has me on is Burbur Detox.....which is also good for liver support.

I did read that presentation. I don't know if anything I'm taking already is support for kidneys, I'll have to look into it.

It sounds like you listened to the interview?? I'm glad you listened....you could also print out all my notes from the interview to refer back to. He talks about the whey protein and he talks about the minerals....very important things going into metal detox.

No, I learned all that from your notes!!! Didn't you say it's an hour and a half? Maybe I can listen to it next time I sauna ... over two times actually. Don't know though, I like listening to XM radio on my computer when I sauna. :rolleyes:

You all know I've been feeling crummy since switching abx. Well, I bought the new whey without the stevia last night. I took it last night and this morning. I've felt much, much better!! :D Is it possible to Rachel whey? :huh: I just drank a second glass, one this morning, one this afternoon. :ph34r:

My own dictionary includes:

Axiom -

An established principle, scientific law, etc.

&

A statement universally accepted as true.

********************************

Wow, we learn something new about you every day ... you WROTE a dictionary??? ;):lol:

Yeah....this question came from a caller. The last part of the interview was open to questions from callers. She said she had Lyme and was low in iron and asked if it was important to supplement it or not?

He basically told her she had undiagnosed Babesia and this is why she had low iron.

I supplement. I've read that you shouldn't, but I feel really bad when I don't. My PA said to keep doing what I'm doing because my blood tests are coming out good. My iron also has folic acid, B12, and C.

I dont think Lyme is going to fall to the background....he wasnt suggesting that at all.....he was saying that for HIM (and those who work closely with him) the Lyme wave is coming to an end.....that they have come to realize that the Lyme is there *only* because of the other factors (viruses and metals) and that without those other factors people dont get sick from Lyme.

I guess I don't understand this comment. :huh:

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Carla...you're Lyme could have gotten a stronger hold on you because you detoxed alot of what was keeping it in check...without doing anything to treat the infections. They have room to grow once you start detoxing. Each emotional episode after that would have allowed for the bugs to increase their hold on you.

I actually felt better after I chelated and did the anti-candida/elimination diet the first time and felt fine for 12 years, with the minor symptoms Dr. K describes.

It was the stress of not being able to live in Ohio because we couldn't sell our Indiana house, along with the family problems that made me start feeling bad. I was obsessed over the Indiana house selling. It ruled my life, I could think of nothing else. It took 5 years to sell. Finally we took it off the market because I absolutely could not take it anymore. Of course, then we got an offer ... we even refused it for 6 weeks until he finally agreed to pay what it was listed for.

I felt good after detoxing. HOWEVER, I always took garlic. I see it mentioned in Dr. K's comments. My garlic also had astragalus. I drank raw apple cider vinegar. I was "into" things that were natural abx. My supplement protocol almost matched Dr. B's guidelines PERFECTLY, which was amazing as I put the protocol together myself.

So, I think I was keeping it in balance, the bacteria included, until the emotional stuff took over.

All my emotional issues are resolved except for one, that I'm not talking about on an open forum. :)

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Maybe I was just born already broken?? :(

Not that I know much about your situation, or that my opinion counts for much, but ...

No, I don't think you were born broken. I'm thinking that the series of events in your life have taken you to where you are today. I think you're quite together, actually.

Yes, I think you may be holding some stuff in - I think most people are. I hold onto a general sense of guilt - about what others have had to tolerate from me. The traumatic events have been dealth with. I don't believe it has to be related to any one event. It just may be a series of events that culminate toward a general feeling that you may be holding onto.

EDIT (AGAIN): Oh, and, yes, I do think it can be affecting your ability to detox - absolutely.

Just a thought.

I'm so lazy - I've been here all day, blathering ... bla, bla, bla. It's reached new heights today. I gotta go sit in the Insta-Spa. I gotta get out of Rachelville. What am I doing?

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Sheesh, take a breath, I never considered dusting off the ole pistol! :)

I'd hoped to word my post in a way that would NOT be taken personally.

I highly regret my failure to do so and I apologize for that.

Please accept my apology. :wub:

Tom, just because one of Rachel's posts is long, doesn't mean she's angry ... if she can say something that can be said in 10 words with 500 words, she will. :D:lol::lol:

We love your posts, Rachel, don't change a thing, but I'm still going to tease you. Besides, I'm the one who can't post from my phone because it's too slow!! ;)

EDIT: I don't believe in idiopathic disease. There has to be a reason for this. Hopefully, it's something I can fix. I'm trying to find out what's doing this to me.

Exactly. Don't let them treat the symptoms, you need them so you know what's going on. You need to find the underlying disease. It was my stubborness in this area that has directed me to a diagnosis and I'm getting better.

Whats really interesting to me is that as long as I can recall....my entire life maybe....I have NOT been able to hold onto anything. They say that holding things inside is not healthy and its healthier to release them.

Well...this stands true for me. I have always let all of my feeling out...I cant hold them in....or I feel sick! :o

I'm the same way, but there's one thing I hold inside. :)

I tell Adam everything.

However, growing up, I could tell no one what was going on. I had to keep it in. I could not deal with the feelings and had to lock them up in the attic of my brain until I was in a strong enough place spiritually to start cleaning the attic. It was traumatic when I started dealing with it. I would get disoriented from it, almost catatonic ... I'd stare off into space and no one could talk to me. I didn't have counseling, but had a lot of spiritual direction.

I had to lock them up because it was a constant threat and I didn't have the energy to deal with my life and process the feelings.

I didn't realize I locked things up and had to make a conscious effort to let it go. It hurt when it came out.

This all happened right before I got sick ... the unpacking the attic.

For me, this packing stuff away was a survival technique.

With this last break-up I was already very sick for about 9 months before we broke-up. Yeah....THIS I'm sure did me some damage because I was already nearing my worst time with this illness and then I had to deal with a bad break-up on top of it all.

So what do you guys think?? Do you think I feel sick holding stuff in because I cant detox well?? Do you think that if we hold stuff in it can really affect our bodies ability to excrete toxins?

Okay, you asked. :rolleyes: I think that there's the possibility that this is the right guy for you and that you both still love each other deeply. Your relationship/communication techniques couldn't bear your illness. I think that it's possible that your feelings for him might be what's unresolved. It's not that you haven't let out everything, it's that you can't resolve your feelings for him. That is why you needed a New Year's resolution to stop calling him. You can't stop thinking about him, can you? :)

Men crawl into caves, the more you try to force information out of them the deeper into the cave they go. When it's all resolved, when they've processed their feelings, they come out.

BUT, you have to tell him everything and expect him to do the same. It's not going to happen. He has to appear strong because he's a guy ... he goes to the cave to hide and comes out strong again.

It's okay to not work through and agree on every little thing. Adam and I do this all the time ... I'll say, "I understand your point, but I disagree." If we were supposed to be like one person, why would we need each other?

Anyway, this is the internet and I could be off base here, but I think it's something that has to do with this guy that is your unresolved conflict.

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Tom, I think you'd like it. I am going to need to cut my nails, which is fine ... they're just long because I don't take the time to cut them, just file them quickly and move onto something more important ... Adam has no trouble at all typing on it. Go look at them!

iPhone!!!! I'd been wondering when we get 1st iPhone post. That was other one & not this post tho I think.

I bet I would like it, but not working for 10 yrs makes a guy frugal. Maybe once I start again!

Wow, we learn something new about you every day ... you WROTE a dictionary??? ;):lol:

Oh youuuuuuuuuu!!! LOL :lol:

Cut that out!! :P

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Dear Kat,

So you have albumin in the kidneys! My uncle used to have that! You explained it very well! I had no idea it effected your plasma. No one every told me that before. It sounds like a very difficult thing to deal with.

Believe it or not, I actually knew what idiopathic means! :lol: We are all probably some of the few who do! I do not believe in idiopathic illness, either. There has to be something causing problems. I read somewhere a while back that eating too many eggs can cause this condition.

Computers delete things to annoy us! Just when you have it all ready, then it does something to irritate you. These things are bound to have a mind of their own! Anything as aggravating as this must be able to think to a degree. HEINOUS!

That is what it is! HEINOUS! :angry:

Dear Rachel,

I do not think you were born broken! :( You have a warm, caring heart! You have compassion, mercy, and empathy! :wub: HUGS! I sometimes wondered that about myself. I always am the type to hold everything in. It is not healthy, though.

It does make you sick. I get upset, and it does not make anything better, only worse. Eventually, I explode! Writing songs and singing helps. When I am mad, Alanis Moriessette is the greatest thing to sing! Avril Lavigne is another good musical outlet. They are called "The Anger Sisters."

I think you can be impaired when detoxing from pinned up emotions. I get a lot of headaches. Some of this I know has to do with my parents. I do not think I would have near the stress if I did not have to deal with them. There are days I try to just get away from them, and do not want to talk to anyone. I know no matter what I say or do, it is wrong, strange, etc.

Dear Carla,

Those new phones sound great! It is amazing that they really are so simple to use. Some are too complicated. I type quickly as well. I can type up to 65wpm.

I would hate having to hunt and peck, though. It drives me crazy. I am good at dialing the phone, though. Since it is a lot like that, I am sure I could do pretty good. I love gadgets!

Sincerely,

Jin

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No, I learned all that from your notes!!! Didn't you say it's an hour and a half? Maybe I can listen to it next time I sauna ... over two times actually. Don't know though, I like listening to XM radio on my computer when I sauna. :rolleyes:

Oh...I was posting to Lisa....I think. :unsure:

She had asked some questions pertaining to stuff that he talked about in the interview....which I hadnt yet posted.

I think she must have listened to the interview. :)

You all know I've been feeling crummy since switching abx. Well, I bought the new whey without the stevia last night. I took it last night and this morning. I've felt much, much better!! :D Is it possible to Rachel whey? :huh: I just drank a second glass, one this morning, one this afternoon. :ph34r:

The whey contains amino acids which are essential for helping to shuttle the metals out of the body.

He says people always feel better when they take DMPS, high amounts of amino acids (whey protein) w/ N.A.C. or glutathione, cilantro with chlorella, etc.....anything to bind with the metals....during die-off.

He says when you're feeling bad from treating the bugs....its because you're releasing metals and they're floating around in your body....overwhelming your system....its redistribution of metals...not dying bugs (thats if you believe his theory).

Dr. S. says its not possible to rachel the whey (well he didnt actually use the Rachelville lingo ;) ) . For people like me who have alot of sensitivities....too much can still cause problems with developing sensitivitites and things like that.

People with high levels of L-cysteine (often seen in autism) should not take things which contain cysteine. For someone like you....I dont think it would cause problems. I think you should take it to help with the detox of metals...especially when your herxing.

We cant *prove* that its metals getting released when the bugs die....but we cant *disprove* it either. Since released metals can lead to redistribution to the brain...I think its wise to use every precaution and to cover for the release of metals as Dr. K recommends.

I guess I don't understand this comment. :huh:

I'm sure when they started discovering the prevelance of Lyme in all these people who are chronically ill and even in the autistic population....there was alot of excitement and attention focused on Lyme and Lyme treatment.

I think what hes basically saying is that that phase is coming to end in his own practice.

They've realized that it still comes back to the metals...it still comes back to the emotional issues...and now he's saying that they always find these Borna viruses in patients who are symptomatic with Lyme.

There are a HUGE amount of people who have Lyme and yet they are NOT sick....they dont have the Borna viruses and they dont have the other issues which trap toxins in the body.

It sounded to me like he is saying that the excitement about Lyme being the "answer" is coming to an end for him. He doesnt consider it to be the "stealthy" bacteria its made out to be.

It still needs to be treated just like all other infections that make their home inside the toxic areas of the body...but you cant get rid of Lyme or the other infections w/out clearing out the toxins...and you sometimes cant clear out the toxins until you've dealt with emotional issues which are blocking the release of the toxins.

The immunesystem in a client with unresolved psychoemotional material and compartmentalized toxins is unable to recognize and eliminate the microorganisms present in the toxic areas of the body.

Those areas serve as hiding and breeding places for these organisms. Unfortunately they have been termed

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So you have albumin in the kidneys! My uncle used to have that! You explained it very well! I had no idea it effected your plasma. No one every told me that before. It sounds like a very difficult thing to deal with.

I read somewhere a while back that eating too many eggs can cause this condition.

I can't believe it - I lost another post.

The albumin doesn't stay in the kidneys - it flushes out in the urine.

Eggs ? :huh: Albumin is the major protein in eggs, but I don't think it has anything to do with why this is happening. I wish it were that simple.

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Ok.....here's more from my notes on the Dr. K. interview:

This is mainly having to do with the psycho-emotoinal isses he's been talking about.

He says psychotherapy is an integral part of treatment...combined with biochemical treatments.

The unresolved emotional issues trap metals and he has better results with detox after addressing these issues.

He uses his form of muscle testing to find the unresolved issues (he talks to the patient while at the same time doing the muscle testing). When he pinpoints the issue he then balances the system with acupuncture points.

He said this shifts the content of trauma in the brain to another area where it no longer disturbs the regulatory mechanism of the system.

He sees incredible results with this kind of therapy.

He said the autonomic nervous system (ANS) regulates the width of blood vessels...it makes them wide or narrow.

The ANS controls the immune system. Unresolved emotional issues create abnormal electric circuits that are constantly discharching electric impulses which travel to the Hypothalamus....where the regulation of the ANS is.

Heartbeat, function of liver enzymes, phase I and phase II liver detoxification pathways are all controlled by the ANS...nobody ever mentions that the whole enzyme system is under control and regulated by the ANS.

(The ANS is what is being tested in ART...this is the main reason ART differs from traditional muscle testing)

Enzymes are highly sensitive to electric properties of tissue. Unresolved conflict leads to abnormal impulses traveling down the spinal cord into tissue and organs that are related to the area in the Hypothalamus.

It creates dysfunction on all levels...it changes biochemistry, the pH of tissue, the activity of receptors in the cell wall....you get a completely changed intracellular and extracellular environment. This is the beginning of a chronic state of illness.

It can be very localized....the adrenals are most commonly affected....the kidneys may not work....the thyroid may not work.

Trauma is very organ specific.

An unresolved fear conflict directly affects the andrenals and kidneys. He uses the example of people in Germany who were traumatized by witnessing death years ago...its an unresolved fear conflict that has affected their kidneys and adrenals.

Anger conflict....swallowed anger...like when people are growing up in an abusive home and cant express their anger...so they swallow it.....he says it afects their liver later on in life.

Each suppressed emotion can affect specific organs or a portion of the organ....he says its organ specific and not random.

Nurturing conflict....not being breast-fed or forming a close and nurturing bond with the mother....affects the small intestine, causing absorption problems later on in life. Parasites, worms, candida, etc....its not just caused by the lack of nutrients from breast feeding but also there can be a nurturing conflict caused by not forming that bond/closeness.

Biochemical testing which focuses on cortisol levels, herbal treatments for adrenals....they are all useful but cannot resolve the unresolved emotional traumas.

Every one of these emotional issues is cureable....these can be opened up and detoxification can be "unblocked".

He says America is the land of biochemistry. Germany is the land of physics...when you bring everything together you can talk about holistic medicine.

He says biochemistry is NOT integrative medicine and many Dr.'s are claiming to be integrative yet they only practice biochemistry. Biochemistry is only part of the truth...not the whole truth.

There are a whole field of solid people who have developed solutions that work....they use lasers, psychology, infrared devices...all very effective in triggering detox....then comes the biochemistry. Then we need everything we know in biochemistry to support that.

(he's saying they need other methods to get the body to release the toxins....and then they use what everyone else uses to support the detox phase)

Biochemistry on its own has not been enough. People should know how to run a good biochemically based detox program but when it stops working and nothing comes out....people are falsely assuming they're done.

What it means is that the biochemistry has exhausted its capability and its time to shift to energy medicine or to a psychology based approach...then return to biochemistry and it will work again.

He says he still uses the same supplements everyone else uses but doesnt stop there. He hopes others who are practicing biochemistry will branch out...a little bit of psychology, a little bit of acupuncture, a little bit of homeopathy, a little bit of neural therapy.

Then he goes into the Klinghardt Axiom...which I already posted about....the triad of detoxification....you cant empty one glass and leave the other two untouched.

He says the medical journals only publish stuff that pertains to biochemistry...he doesnt know why that is.. but it has to do with the pharmaceutical companies. They dont market electronic devices (stuff he uses for energetic testing/treatment, etc).

Sometimes the ANS is completely shut down (blocked). They check for this first in every ART session...they cant proceed with testing if the ANS is already blocked. Thankfully my ANS has always been open. :)

7 reasons for the ANS to be shut down

Cell phone towers near the home

microbe activity....Lyme/molds

food allergy

infection in teeth, jawbone

biochemical deficiencies

psychological issues

structural problems

An agressive heavy metal detox program will usually solve blocked regulation of the ANS.

He says there is a 100% correlation betwen psychiatric illnesses and Borna viruses.

There is no valid test in the U.S. for Borna viruses.

Bi-polar is chronic Borna virus until proven otherwise. Borna virus is a common infection in conjunction with Lyme Disease.

Borna virus - severe anger or depression that is not psychological in nature but directly related to infection.

Lyme patients are the most feared patients in his office because they can be so emotionally "off"...angry, hostile and nasty.

6 weeks on antimicrobials and they become "angels"....in their true personality.

He says "feelings" cannot be directly associated with unresolved psychological issues. You cant just interview someone and determine by their feelings and behaviors whether or not there is unresolved emotional issues.

Feelings can often be "fixed" with biochemistry by treating the infections.

Psychological conflicts are more often expressed in the way people live their lives, around relationships, social interactions, etc.

Many emotions are distortions caused by microbial infections and metals....and not an expression of distorted psychology.

(Ummm...yeah...I think we all have had first hand experience with this :P )

You cannot trust emotions when diagnosing unresolved psychological issues.

So thats it for the psych stuff. All the rest is having to do with heavy metal detox.

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I did read that presentation. I don't know if anything I'm taking already is support for kidneys, I'll have to look into it.

This is what I found about why the kidney supprt is so important...

Kidney protection:

When metals are mobilized a certain portion travels through the kidneys. The kidneys may react with swelling of the basal membranes and decrease in filtration rate. To prevent damage to the kidneys the patient has to drink increasing amounts of water (with selectrolyte solution).

The kidney has a filtrating surface equal to a ping-pong table, the gut that of a soccer field. The nephrons - like brain cells - live long and cannot be replaced once damaged. The gut membranes are renewed every 3 days.

It is foolsih to push toxic metals through the kidneys and wise, to push them out through the gut. Chlorella pulls toxic metals through the mucosal surface of the intestines from the blood and protects the kidneys.

Additional recommended supplement: Renelix 15 drops three times a day

Bowel flora:

When metals are moved out of the body through the feces, the bowel flora is damaged. During the active phase of the detox, chlorella works as an excellent pre-probiotic: It selectively feeds the good bowel flora. In addition, we recommend taking HLC (Acidophilus/Bifidus) two capsules with each meal.

This is what he says about saunas...

Sauna therapy

Peer reviewed literature shows that sweating during sauna therapy eliminates high levels of toxic metals, organic compounds, dioxin, and other toxins. Sauna therapy is ideal to mobilize toxins from its hiding places.

However, during a sauna, toxic metals can also be displaced from one body compartment into another. This means mercury can be shifted from the connective tissue into the brain. This untoward effect is completely prevented when the patient is on chlorella, cilantro and garlic.

The addition of ozone can be used to deliver an effective anti-microorganism hit while in the sauna. The moment mercury and other metals are removed from the body, microorganisms start to grow. We use a ozone steam cabinet which allows us to combine the effects of hyperthermia and ozone therapy in a very safe and comfortable way.

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Phew, temporary reprieve! Our small group was scheduled to rehearse tonight and our choir director was going to come to hear us. YIKES...fortunately, they had to cancel practice. YAY! :lol: I'm going to have to sing in front of him some time, but at least it isn't TONIGHT! :P

I'm so sorry...I don't think I'm absorbing much of what's being posted, especially the scientificness, but I'm trying. :P I AM reading it...hopefully something will stick...I guess I should be copying this stuff to a document so I can read it later. Okay, that's my project for tomorrow!

No, I don't think you were born broken. I'm thinking that the series of events in your life have taken you to where you are today. I think you're quite together, actually.

Yes, I think you may be holding some stuff in - I think most people are. I hold onto a general sense of guilt - about what others have had to tolerate from me. The traumatic events have been dealth with. I don't believe it has to be related to any one event. It just may be a series of events that culminate toward a general feeling that you may be holding onto.

EDIT (AGAIN): Oh, and, yes, I do think it can be affecting your ability to detox - absolutely.

Just a thought.

I'm so lazy - I've been here all day, blathering ... bla, bla, bla. It's reached new heights today. I gotta go sit in the Insta-Spa. I gotta get out of Rachelville. What am I doing?

What are you doing....you are being sucked into the vortex known as Rachelville. :lol:

And I agree with the rest of your post too.

iPhone!!!! I'd been wondering when we get 1st iPhone post. That was other one & not this post tho I think.

I bet I would like it, but not working for 10 yrs makes a guy frugal. Maybe once I start again!

Oh youuuuuuuuuu!!! LOL :lol:

Cut that out!! :P

I actually went to the iPhone website just to actually see what everyone is talking about. :lol:

Hey, can we call you Webster Spice!?

It still needs to be treated just like all other infections that make their home inside the toxic areas of the body...but you cant get rid of Lyme or the other infections w/out clearing out the toxins...and you sometimes cant clear out the toxins until you've dealt with emotional issues which are blocking the release of the toxins.

He's saying that the Lyme is only there because of the other issues....without the other issues Lyme by itself is not a threat. People who get symptomatic from Lyme have too many toxic areas in their body...the burden is too heavy. People who are not in this sitaution dont get sick from Lyme....even though many of them do have the infection.

This is why he's saying the Lyme wave is coming to an end for him....its not the whole answer.

Makes sense.

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I don't know about all of you, but from this I'm learning how strong of a person I really am!! If you haven't seen that in yourself, pay better attention. :)

I think many of you are strong or you wouldn't be here, learning and teaching others who may come after you.

I am glad T is doing so well taking her supplements. They are not easy to swallow. Pills are just not fun to take! How long before improvement is expected?

I don't know how soon improvement is expected. She just had her sulfa pathways done today. She hurts, but is doing ok. Her next treatment is Monday. She'll have the sulfa pathways checked to make sure they are open, then if all is clear will have the pesticide one done....245T group.

That year was a horrible year, started in 1995...

You had so much to deal with I would think it made a big impact on your health. I'm glad you're getting treatment and are here learning and teaching as well. :D

This is nothing new...its always been this way but now that I'm super toxic....obviously I feel more severe symptoms when under any type of stress....and for me holding stuff inside has always brought on stress and a feeling of unwellness.

I don't know. Many things affect us through life. Just like with my children, mom's amalgams probably contributed though.

Anyway, this is the internet and I could be off base here, but I think it's something that has to do with this guy that is your unresolved conflict.

I think so too.

Sometimes the ANS is completely shut down (blocked). They check for this first in every ART session...they cant proceed with testing if the ANS is already blocked. Thankfully my ANS has always been open. :)

So is that what Regulation Open means......that ANS is open.

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Dear Rachel,

I do not think you were born broken! :( You have a warm, caring heart! You have compassion, mercy, and empathy! :wub: HUGS! I sometimes wondered that about myself. I always am the type to hold everything in. It is not healthy, though.

Thanks Jin. :)

When I said I may have been broken from the start.....I'm thinking of missing enzymes...genetic defects which can slow down detox.

He said this afects 15% of the population.

The Autistic kids do have genetic defects....however, I dont think that our genes have changed.....I think nowadays these kids are being subjected to more than what they are capable of detoxing.

When I was a child we did not have thimersol in all the vaccs and we didnt have so many vaccs in a short period of time.

I'm thinking about what Anna was saying about my situation having all of the similarities they see in Autism.....and that if this happened to me as a child....there is no doubt I would be autistic. She said the only thing thats saved me from Autism is my age.

So...basically....I'm wondering if there is a defect which caused me to be a slow detoxer.

I had a couple vaccs containing thimersol and then a couple years later all the mercury exposure from the dental work. It was obviously too much for me to handle but I'm curious if this was caused by impaired detoxification from genetc defect....or something else.

I had asked Dr. S. about this at my last visit. I asked what we will do if I have a genetic defect??

He said we will work around it...it wont prevent me from getting better...we would just need to work around it. I asked how we can work around it if we dont know its there?? :unsure:

He said if theres a missing enzyme or something.... he's certain Anna and Amy can determine that with the testing they do....then they will work around it.

Thats what I mean about being broken. :(

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Hey, can we call you Webster Spice!?

:lol: LOL :lol: (and I MEAN it!)

I suppose if somehow I'm the *only* one who it makes think of Emmanuel Lewis!!

(Annnnnnnd doubting that)

<tom having inexplicable urge to change avatar back to SaX(ophone) shot>

P.S. Tho yes, when I refer to "my own dictionary" it is a Webster's. :o

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So is that what Regulation Open means......that ANS is open.

Yeah...it means the ANS is open. If regualtion is blocked it means the ANS is shut down and they cant test in that case.

They have ways to unblock the ANS so that they can then proceed but they always have to check and make sure its open before they start.

Scott had told me its usually always open but occassionally there might be someone who is totally blocked and then they have to go through some steps to unblock it.

Can you let me know some of the details of the sulfa treatment...if you have time?? :)

It sounds like T. is being a trooper through all of this. :)

Did all of you make the trip again today...or did the kids go to your moms?

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Pooping in to say hello!

Well- the korea decision was made for me. I'm herxing again and would NOT want to be in a hotel and definitely not a foreign country. I think last week could have been from the plaquenil (or the heat) because this is the herx I was expecting. :(

Yuck-a dookie! HERXATION HIDEOUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think that's a smart decision, Bev, even if it's the one you didn't want. I know I couldn't handle it.

I herxed when I started Plaquenil, too.

I had been herxing from the Cipro until today. I had some whey last night and again today and felt better today. All these detox things help.

Do they have you on charcoal, chlorella, or Cholestyramine? Have you tried the whey?

Hope you're feeling better soon.

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Tom, just because one of Rachel's posts is long, doesn't mean she's angry ... if she can say something that can be said in 10 words with 500 words, she will. :D:lol::lol:

:lol::lol:

Thanks Carla. :P

Yup....I definately dont hold back with the words.....see this is exactly what I'm saying....I express myself very well...I say what I want to say.....and its NEVER short. :lol:

And yup...just because there's lots of words doesnt mean I'm mad.

I wasnt the least bit upset....just didnt want to debate about the correct defination cuz I didnt see how it was revelant....I didnt think it would be useful to anyone.

I had to lock them up because it was a constant threat and I didn't have the energy to deal with my life and process the feelings.

I didn't realize I locked things up and had to make a conscious effort to let it go. It hurt when it came out.

This all happened right before I got sick ... the unpacking the attic.

Do you think that in "unpacking the attic" you were able to then start detoxing some of the metals/toxins that may have been stored because of this unresolved issue?

This is basically what Dr. Klinghardt was saying about the unresolved emotional conflicts...that they trap toxins in the body. Then when you deal with the issue (effectively) there can be a sudden release of those toxins...like a "healing crisis".

When this happens and the body suddenly lets go of stored toxins...then the microbes that were stored in those compartments can then become very active in the body.

Do you think something like that could have happened in your case?? Is that when you got sick from the Lyme?

Okay, you asked. :rolleyes: I think that there's the possibility that this is the right guy for you and that you both still love each other deeply. Your relationship/communication techniques couldn't bear your illness. I think that it's possible that your feelings for him might be what's unresolved. It's not that you haven't let out everything, it's that you can't resolve your feelings for him. That is why you needed a New Year's resolution to stop calling him. You can't stop thinking about him, can you? :)

Yeah...I know that my feelings are still strong. I've said it from the start. In the first weeks everyone was telling me I'd be over it in days....I said "Nope...its different this time....and I'm not gonna be over it just like that."

Then everyone was saying its because I'm sick and I just dont want to let go...but I know deep down that if I were healthy tomorrow and could have my pick...theres noone else I'd want to be with.

Its an unresolved issue for me because even though I can express myself...I'm not getting any feedback. I get "wishy-washiness".

Stuff like...."I know I still love you but I dont know what it means". :huh:

To me thats lame....I put alot of thought into things that are important to me. I've thought alot about my feelings, what they mean, what I want out of life, what I would change, etc.

My ex doesnt answer any questions with a straight answer....its all grey areas.....like when you want to keep someone on a string. Thats why I needed the New Years resolution...because I just kept getting sucked back into that vortex...and yeah....then I couldnt stop thinking about it. :rolleyes:

Now I'm not really thinking about it...I'm just focusing on my health issues. I'm tired of the wishi-washiness and the excuses of "Everythings buried inside and I dont want to think about it." I cant be around someone and hold everything inside....not talk about my illness, not talk about the relationship, not talk about anything that matters EVER.

So yeah....that is a HUGE unresolved conflict for me...and I realize that it will NEVER be resolved because thats just the way it is with my ex. My feeling is that my illness has alot to do with it....I think its easier to not see me or talk about it and just pretend that its not there and everything is fine with me.

We dont talk about it unless I bring it up...but I dont get any responses at all. I think one time it was something like "I just want you to do what you need to do to take care of your health and get better....thats what I want."

So yeah...thats about the extent of it. :rolleyes:

It really doesnt make me feel like I'm loved deeply...thats for sure ....so yeah...I think that part might just be one-sided. :rolleyes:

I think if I wasnt sick anymore my ex would open up more. My friend thinks there might be some guilt about leaving when I was sick....but I dunno.

he goes to the cave to hide and comes out strong again.

Ummm...yeah....but I think my ex isnt coming out of the cave...EVER again. :lol:

I was just talking to my friend awhile ago about all this Klinghardt stuff...the unresolved emotions....the genetic defects, etc.

Shes known me half of my life.....she was laughing about the part where I said holding stuff in can impair detoxification. She was saying "OMG...you're NOT even capable of holding anything in!!" :rolleyes:

I explained the whole thing....all the scientifiness (and I used well over 500 words :P )....she said that even though I'm communicating and talking about everything....doesnt mean that theres still not issues there.

She said I could still be holding onto stuff even though I'm talking about things and expressing myself. She said its still "issues" that I might not have fully dealt with.

When I asked for examples she only brought up this last relationship...so yeah...there is this ONE issue that we know of...but I got sick *before* this unresolved issue came into play.

I still think there is a genetic link to my situation. I dont think I ever stood a chance because my body couldnt excrete the toxins fast enough...stress exacerbated the situation. I think stress severely impairs detoxification but it never actually got me sick...just a general feeling of unwellness that would improve when the stress was over....it was only when there were too many toxins at once that I got sick.

Thats not how it works with Lyme and infections...they dont get you sick overnight like that.

When the kids regress into autism...it usually happens fairly quickly...the parents can see the sudden changes in behavior....the language stops, the eye contact stops, etc. Lots of times they can see that it occurs right after a vaccination, or exposure to toxic mold, etc. Thats how it happened to me....it was a sudden change.....after the dental work I was not the same.

If stress can really slow down detoxification...then it would make sense that if I *already* had impaired detoxification...it would get alot worse under stress. It would make sense that my immune system would be under more stress during these times....especially having to deal with infections that were obviously there all along.

I think thats why I ended up with Graves....because of the infections....the symptoms flared up during stress...but underneath the infections...the *root* cause would be the toxicity....the heavy metals.

And back to my ex....I know I could resolve this issue if I had closure and if there was two-way communication. My feelings arent whats unresolved....I know what my feelings are and I've had no problems communicating them.

If someone isnt honest and open about their feelings and doesnt say anything to close the door and just goes on with leaving the door open but not opening up their heart or even opening up a discussion...then the only way for closure is if I just choose to walk away from that situation.

That what I did with my resolution...but then I went back and sort of opened up the door again...at least for a day. :rolleyes:

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It was soon after that I got sick. This started happening, surges of feelings would come that I wouldn't understand. It was as if this stuff was happening now rather than years ago. It was about a year after that started happening that I got sick with a bacterial infection that was suspected to be Chlamydia Psittaci (parrot fever) from a pet bird that died. I was treated for it with 21 days of doxycyline (300 mg. per day, three doses).

Everyone in the family was exposed to that sick bird, and I was the only one who got sick.

So, it was a combination of things. EVERY time I got sick from this, emotional stress was involved. It's my last straw.

For you, I'm sure it was a combination of things, too. The Lyme, then the galvanic reaction, then the relationship stress. You could have gotten ill from the Lyme and mercury, then couldn't detox because of poor diet, then the relationship falling apart. It's just a different order, a different last straw.

I'd be frank with the guy. Guys stop listening/comprehending after about 10 words. Just ask, "Do you want to give it a try again? I need to know because if you say no, I'm going to move on." It's a yes or no question. If he says no, then you have to deal with that. You can't beat around the bush .... it's got to be point blank.

You can move on, but you still will never forget the guy. It's like this, when I had my second child, there was plenty of room in my heart for him, yet I didn't lose a bit of my love for my first child. The same thing can happen with romantic relationships. I speak from experience here (unresolved issue).

There may be issues you've hidden so well to protect yourself you don't even know they exist. That was what happened to me. It's not that I forgot the incidents, it's that I forgot the emotions, and that was what came flooding back to me. Maybe there's something else unresolved ... but I still think that a lot of your current emotional stress is this guy.

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