Rib Pain! And Perpetual Frozen Shoulder

[frec]

OK, I'm desperate, and this forum is a great source of well-informed, obscure medical information. I am in serious pain. I've had back problems for five years and a frozen shoulder for over two. I am doing physical therapy to help--just gentle exercises. My arm has pretty much regained its range. But in the last two months my ribs started coming off. They keep getting displaced--kind of popping off my spine-- and about every two weeks my chiropractor puts 4 or 5 of them back on. He says the muscles in my left shoulder are pulling my spine and won't relax. The last session left me so sore that I could hardly breathe. I went in for x rays and they showed nothing. I am using Tylenol (can't do NSAIDS) and ice packs and I am at my wit's end. Nobody has any ideas and I don't know what to do short of not moving anymore.

Is this related to celiac/nutritional problems? Does anyone else have this?

[fedora]

Hi,

Recently my close friend was telling me about diabetes. He has it. He said that diabetics are much more likely to get frozen sholulder. Also that it takes someone longer with diabetes to heal from frozen shoulder. Have you been tested for diabetes? I would consider it if you haven't.

I do think this could be connected to gluten intolerance. I have had joint pain since 10. I am now 32. As a child it was in my knees. As an adult it is in my left shoulder(for over 12 years now). I stopped eating gluten about 2 months ago. Since then my pain has subsided. It is not gone or even close to it, but I haven't had any horrible pain in about a month!!! Once I got glutened and it caused some pain, but not to severe. I also have some of the problems you have. My muscles pull my spine out of place and several ribs. I do not have frozen shoulder. I have continued to have a range of movement, but lots of pain. I love my chiropractor and would probably be crippled without them. Seriously. My physical therapist says my problems are muscular and that my joint appears to work fine. Also my spine can be straightened with PT. Very weird. But my muscles are use to going all tweaky. I am hoping that as time goes on being gluten free, this will continue to get better. I know over the years that the stronger I was from weight bearing exercises, the less of a problem it was.

I got a Trigger Point Massage. My physical therapist recommended it. I highly recommend it . It didn't always feel good, but was very effective in helping my muscles be in their right place. To get the full benefit, it would be best to get it on a regular basis for awhile. Other massage hasn't done that for me, though it feels good.

Good luck, I don't know if this helps any. Good luck

[frec]

That really helps. Tweaky is a good word for it. My muscles just don't let go. Anyway, thanks so much.

[aikiducky]

I don't usually do this, but on the off chance that it might help:

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Just to be up front about it - I'm an Alexander technique teacher myself, and though it's not a therapy or treatment, it often helps with movement and musculature related problems. I'm not connected to that website in any way, I'm on the other side of the ocean. Just thought you might check it out.

I've heard good things about trigger point massage, too. I think with all these kind of things, the most important thing is to find a good practitioner. And no doubt nutrition can have an effect as well, I don't know so much about that but some vitamin or mineral deficiencies can cause muscle cramps for example.

Hope you find some relief soon!

Pauliina

[RoseTapper]

My muscles have always given me problems, too, and they pulled my bones terribly while I was still in my mother's uterus. I had to wear casts from the waist down for about six months after I was born in order to straighten the bones. However, my muscles have pulled at my bones (especially my spine, knees, and hips) for my entire life. Physical therapy helped a great deal, as has chiropractics, but the best system I found is called T-Tapp, which is a form of isometric exercise that balances the muscles. I've been doing it for over six years--and the last time I had an x-ray of my spine, it showed that my lifelong scoliosis had disappeared! T-Tapp works on spinal alignment and rehabilitaton of the knees and hips. I've been painfree since starting it. You can find out more by going to Teresa Tapp's Website (she's an exercise physiologist, and the program is named for her). I'm not sure if this forum allows me to mention specific Websites, so I'm going to suggest that if you're interested in learning more, simply use a word search.

[itchygirl]

Frozen shoulder is related to autoimmune disease. Have you seen an endo to evaluate for underlying causes?

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People who have diabetes have a greater risk of frozen shoulder. For this reason, frozen shoulder may have an autoimmune component, meaning your immune system may begin to attack the healthy parts of your body