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jkmunchkin

It's Official... We Can Eat Oats!

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I went to a meeting yesterday where Dr. Peter Green from the Celiac Disease Center at Columbia University was the main speaker. He and Anne Roland Lee, the expert celiac nutritionist, said that it is infact safe for us to have oats. They suggest introducing them in very small quantities to start with but say it is a good idea to eat them if you can as it is a good source of fiber.

The 2 brands that Anne said are safe are McCann's Irish Oats and Country's Choice.

I know a lot of people are still unsure of whether to eat oats but if Dr. Green and Anne say it's ok I trust them more than any other source.

I went to a meeting yesterday where Dr. Peter Green from the Celiac Disease Center at Columbia University was the main speaker. He and Anne Roland Lee, the expert celiac nutritionist, said that it is infact safe for us to have oats. They suggest introducing them in very small quantities to start with but say it is a good idea to eat them if you can as it is a good source of fiber.

The 2 brands that Anne said are safe are McCann's Irish Oats and Country's Choice.

I know a lot of people are still unsure of whether to eat oats but if Dr. Green and Anne say it's ok I trust them more than any other source.

Can someone help? I'm new here and I have a question about oat bran. Can anyone tell me if oat bran is safe? Its listed in a herbal cleanse I wan't to do.

Thanks

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Can someone help? I'm new here and I have a question about oat bran. Can anyone tell me if oat bran is safe? Its listed in a herbal cleanse I wan't to do.

Thanks

No, oat bran is not safe


Kaiti

Positive bloodwork

Gluten-free since January 2004

Arkansas

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Food Allergy Comprehensive (IgG-96 foods)"

almond; amaranth flour; apple; apricot; asparagus; avocado; banana; barley; bean: string, kidney, lima, pinto, soy; beef; beet; blueberry; broccoli; buckwheat; cabbage; carrot; casein; cauliflower; celery; cheese: cheddar, cottage, mozzarella; chicken; clam; cocoa bean; coconut; cod; coffee bean; corn; crab; cranberry; cucumber; egg white; egg yoke; filbert; garlic; gliadin; gluten; grape: red; grapefruit; halibut; honey; lactalbumin; lamb; lemon; lentil; lettuce; lobster; milk: cow, goat; mushroom; oat; olive, black; onion; orange; oyster; papaya; pea; peach; peanut; pear; pecan; pepper: bell; pineapple; plum; pork; potato: sweet & white; pumpkin; radish; raspberry; red snapper; rice: white; rye; salmon; sesame; shrimp; sole; spelt; spinach; squash: zucchini; strawberry; sugar cane; sunflower; tomato; tuna; turkey; walnut; wheat; yeast baker's; yeast brewers; yogurt "

If I stayed away from all these foods I would starve to death. I for one am not going to live my life in fear of what might happen. I will try oats, if I react ... and I would know... then I will not eat them again. I think some of these things are being carried to the extreme. Life is too short to worry about every little thing that "might" harm us. It also might NOT. One time to try it isn't going to kill anyone except those who actually take an extreme reaction and go into shock. And those people know who they are. And yes, if I was one of those I would not try it for sure. But the most I get is a few lousy days .. and if I can add oats to my diet, it's worth the risk.

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Food Allergy Comprehensive (IgG-96 foods)"

almond; amaranth flour; apple; apricot; asparagus; avocado; banana; barley; bean: string, kidney, lima, pinto, soy; beef; beet; blueberry; broccoli; buckwheat; cabbage; carrot; casein; cauliflower; celery; cheese: cheddar, cottage, mozzarella; chicken; clam; cocoa bean; coconut; cod; coffee bean; corn; crab; cranberry; cucumber; egg white; egg yoke; filbert; garlic; gliadin; gluten; grape: red; grapefruit; halibut; honey; lactalbumin; lamb; lemon; lentil; lettuce; lobster; milk: cow, goat; mushroom; oat; olive, black; onion; orange; oyster; papaya; pea; peach; peanut; pear; pecan; pepper: bell; pineapple; plum; pork; potato: sweet & white; pumpkin; radish; raspberry; red snapper; rice: white; rye; salmon; sesame; shrimp; sole; spelt; spinach; squash: zucchini; strawberry; sugar cane; sunflower; tomato; tuna; turkey; walnut; wheat; yeast baker's; yeast brewers; yogurt "

If I stayed away from all these foods I would starve to death. I for one am not going to live my life in fear of what might happen. I will try oats, if I react ... and I would know... then I will not eat them again. I think some of these things are being carried to the extreme. Life is too short to worry about every little thing that "might" harm us. It also might NOT. One time to try it isn't going to kill anyone except those who actually take an extreme reaction and go into shock. And those people know who they are. And yes, if I was one of those I would not try it for sure. But the most I get is a few lousy days .. and if I can add oats to my diet, it's worth the risk.

Shirley,

The list is just a list of 96 different foods that can all be tested for IgG sensitivities. I think he was saying if you take the test and come back sensitive to oats then you would know to stay away. I dont think the test can determine that though since the test cant determine celiac...I would think it cant determine whether oats are causing damage or not. :unsure:


Rachel

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It would seem to me that if oats were to damage my intestines like gluten then I would have the same reactions as I get with the smallest amounts of gluten. I can't see oats, or anything else causing damage without some ill feelings.

Now if I didn't get any reaction from gluten at all, I might understand it .. but it takes extremely little for me to react with gluten.

However ... if I don't react and I can get a supply of pure oats to add to my diet, I would likely consider getting tested down the road.

:rolleyes: Someone has to test these things, and I for one think it's worth the risk with such a small number of Celiacs reacting.

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Ok I have to be honest, I'm kinda feeling like I'm being attacked for sharing what I thought was good news.

Obviously this is a decision that each individual needs to make for themselves whether or not they are comortable reintroducing oats into their life.

Personally if I have 2 sources that are considered credible telling me I can safely eat certain brands of oats without damaging my intestine; well I figure it's worth giving it a shot. If it makes me sick, oh well. I was sick for nearly 10 years and didn't know why. If trying to have something again that I previously enjoyed makes me sick for a day... well atleast I know. As long as it doesn't do damage to my body then I'm willing to try it.

I understand now everyone doesn't feel this way. I'm sorry for causing such an uproar.


Jillian

Positive Blood test and Biopsy

Inflamed stomach lining

Gluten free since July 6, 2005

Tarrytown, NY

"Sometimes being a b$tch is all a woman has to hold onto." - Dolores Claiborne

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Sorry! I certainly didn't mean to attack you :)

I just get so sick - and it lasts too long for me to want to go through it again.

Just know that we are all kinda paranoid ;) (And often, for good reason) It's really important that we all have a little OCD to preserve our health ;)

I don't think anyone here means to attack you personally, we're all just scared of having a known or unknown reaction.

Best wishes to you whatever you do :)

- Michelle :wub:

As long as it doesn't do damage to my body then I'm willing to try it.

I understand now everyone doesn't feel this way.

Hey I just reread your message and these lines caught my attention. *ALL* of us would be willing to try something if we *knew* that it wouldn't damage our body. I think the main point people here are trying to make is that it's possible for damage to our bodies to occur *without* our knowledge (as in the cases of asymptomatic celiac).

It's not that we wouldn't be willing to try something "as long as it doesn't do damage to our bodies" - it's that we're not willing to try something that might.

(Still not meaning to attack you! :))

- Michelle :wub:

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The cost of uncontaminated oats puts them still on my "forbidden" list. I wish so much to make "monster" cookies for my son. But.....not for the price.

If it turns out I can't eat oats, then if I feel like making cookies calling for oats, I'd probably use puffed millet, or amaranth, quinoa, or something like that.


A spherical meteorite 10 km in diameter traveling at 20 km/s has the kinetic energy equal to the calories in 550,000,000,000,000,000 Twinkies.

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Jillian-

Uh oh! Sorry you felt attacked by the responses on this thread! I wouldn't take any of it personally--I don't think anyone meant to hurt you. All I think is that this thread evidenced how cautious and guarded a lot Celiacs are. I know the sources you mentioned are highly credible. But, probably from experience, Celiacs can be cautious... Its sometimes hard to switch gears quickly. Meaning, if for years you've been told oats are bad, and suddenly you hear they are good, it might take you a while to change your thinking. I also think some have the attitude of "you go first!" :) IMO, this is why people have posted what they have, not out of a motivation to hurt ya girl!


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Jen

Indianapolis, IN

gluten-free since Feb 2005

dairy-free

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Jillian,

Thank you for sharing the news,I actually was thinking about oats some weeks ago ,I will let you know the result,we are going to try it for 6 weeks,and we have an appointmet with his immunolog and we will do the igg and ige once more,he had this test in may,so we have something to compare with.

take care

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Shirley,

The list is just a list of 96 different foods that can all be tested for IgG sensitivities. I think he was saying if you take the test and come back sensitive to oats then you would know to stay away. I dont think the test can determine that though since the test cant determine celiac...I would think it cant determine whether oats are causing damage or not. :unsure:

CLOSE! I was asking IF that test would tell us :)


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So, has a 'sensitive' person tried oats yet? I am ultra sensitive and can't tolerate eggs or dairy, so not sure if I want to tempt fate with oats.........but still interested to hear what the results were for any brave individuals that attempted it.


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but the sound keeps coming

out of the flowers

-Zen Haiku Master Basho

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I'm still waiting for my sample, so it will likely be after the Christmas season sometime as the mail is going to be crazy, and I don't want to risk messing up at Christmas time.

But will certainly post when I try them, and yes, I'm really sensitive.

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Hello all.

I made a bread,with rice and oats ,I didn t give him any other protein,so if he gets any IGE mediated reaction(with in 24 hour)it is due to oats,I hope he dosen t because he can t eat egg or diary.

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Hello all.

I made a bread,with rice and oats ,I didn t give him any other protein,so if he gets any IGE mediated reaction(with in 24 hour)it is due to oats,I hope he dosen t because he can t eat egg or diary.

I'd really like to make some oatmeal raisin muffins again. Like so many, I dare not take the chance, at least not until I heal more. I can't afford to risk it now. I've got a cliff waiting for me to make a backstep...


A spherical meteorite 10 km in diameter traveling at 20 km/s has the kinetic energy equal to the calories in 550,000,000,000,000,000 Twinkies.

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I diagnosed my celiacs myself by process of elimination. I always believed that since I found it so early, it didn't matter if I cheated alittle bit. I was wrong, of course. Each year that I cheat, I develop new,more severe symptoms. I'm apparently one of the 10-20 %, when I first started showing celiac symptoms, I had more pain when eating oats than wheat. I would definitely say use caution when adding oats back in. good luck to those who chose to try! I do know some who can eat oats. Unfortunately, not me.

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Shirley,

I saw your link for the Americans, just wondering where you ordered from in Canada? I am in Calgary, and I hate going through US websites and paying US rates for Canadian products. I will give it them a try, call me a rebel, I like to live on the edge, LOL!!!


LORI

Dx celiac disease Aug 25/05, ate KFC that night and gluten-free ever since

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Lori, I went through the Cream Hill Estates web site, it's ..

www.Lame Advertisement.com

email ... info@Lame Advertisement.com

They are in Lasalle, Quebec. My sample hasn't arrived yet though.

I'm going to be away for a bit though, so maybe when I get home, or it may be held up with all the Christmas stuff. Just email them and ask where they are going to be selling it in your area etc.

Good luck :)

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So what's the oats verdict...did any of you try them and did you notice any reaction?


CAROLE

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Enterolab 1/2006

IgA & tTg Positive

DQ2-0201 (celiac) and DQ1-0604 (gluten)

Casein IgA positive

Mom has 2 celiac genes

Both kids have a celiac gene.

Lots of celiac disease in my family, both sides.

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My oats sample was here in the mail when we arrived home a couple of days ago. But as I was contaminated in our travels (hashbrowns I think) and still have a couple of blisters etc. hanging on, I've decided to wait until I'm completely clear before I try the oats.

I want to make sure about whether or not I have a reaction to them and not to something else. So ... hopefully next week.

I'll post as soon as I try them. I'm hoping I don't have any problem with them. :unsure:

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I had oats 4 times in the past 2 weeks. 2 bowls of cereal and 2 batches of cookies. I havent noticed any significant reactions. I did have "D" today (highly unusual for me) after having oatmeal for breakfast but it could be totally unrelated. I had some sharp stomach cramps a couple times as well. Its really hard for me to know since I also added dairy back in and consumed quite a bit in the last 2 weeks. I'm not doing the dairy anymore and I'm more inclined to believe the dairy was to blame rather than the oats. I think I will take a break from the oats as well and try again when I'm less symptomatic.


Rachel

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Rachel, that's what I'm going to try and do. Just the oats by themselves so I can make sure if I react or not.

Good for you for trying them. Let us know how you get on when you try them again.

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I have heard (do not know if it is true) that it is not unuaual to have "d" after trying oats. The reasoning is that celiacs are not used to that much fiber. However, once the body is used to the increase in fiber the "d" should go away.

Hez

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Yes, the fibre might well cause some "D". I think I would be able to tell though as I also get blisters and dry mouth right away along with the "D" But the extra fibre might have been a factor with Rachel, along with the dairy. I'm really anxcious to try it, but must be patient so I get the proper results.

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Maybe the fiber had something to do with it but I think the dairy just really messed me up. :angry:

The oats that I ate were McCanns...does anyone know if there's a difference between the ones in the can and the oatmeal in the box? I've eaten both and the instant ones look like the ususal oatmeal but the ones in the can are more like tiny pellets. For some reason I think the ones in the can are safer....I didnt seem affected by them at all. I had eaten the instant oatmeal when I got the "D". Do you think one type could be contaminated and the other not be?


Rachel

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