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Take care Donna. That is how my whooping cough started a month ago. www.whoopingcough.net Stage 2 of W cough starts after 2 weeks but its too late to do much about it by then. I thought I had a normal sore throat / cough until stage 2 - and when I was nearly choking all the time - read up on it. Stay away from babies if you are suspicious for w cough !

Hum, maybe I'll go read there tomorrow (too tired now, lol). I've had the sore throat for 4.5 days now...it was worse today after the good effects of the coughing wore off. But the cough just started early this morning...3 hours in the middle of the night and about 30 minutes this afternoon. What did they give you to combat it?

The medicine I am starting this evening is a combo of amoxicylin, clarithromycin and prevacid...so two antibiotics and a proton pump inhibitor. I'm also going to be taking bepto-bismol with it...all that is for H.Plylori, but I'm hoping it will work on whatever infection is raging in my head region, lol.

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Donna, I hope the antibiotics help with whatever it is you have in addition to what they were prescribed for.

Thanks Carla, and I hope you feel better soon!!! Speaking of herxing, lol, I've been taking 2.5 grams of Vitamin C for the last 2 days (and took 1500mg the day before that) and so far no herxing...or maybe whatever I have is worse because I'm herxing.

Sometimes I'm just too tired to try to figure it out. :(

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Donna,

I agree with Dr. Rick that the Disneyland activities were probably a big stressor. It *is* alot of stress on the immune system to suddenly change your routine and sort of "push yourself" a little further than you normally would.

It happens to me if I get at all "out of control".....which for me could be anything from eating a cookie to staying up too late. :rolleyes:

Rememeber when we had the show and tell at work?? I pushed myself everyday and I felt ok while I was doing it. Its funny but when I *need* to muster up the strength I ususally can....but afterward my body is WIPED out. I dont get viruses or colds or coughs.....instead I get much worse in the way of my sensitivities, emotions....stuff like that.

I think our bodies just cant handle the added "stessors".....yes, Dr. R likes to use that word ALOT. :lol:

But I DO believe its true....the stressors start piling up and BAMN...we get worse. :(

Good luck starting the new meds...I hope you get better fast. Remember to take probiotics. :)

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Thanks Patti and Rachel.

I kind of felt like I was pushing it while I was IN Disneyworld, but it's so hard to relax with all that fun minnie appearal to see and buy. :P

Patti - about to send a PM, I thought of a couple of more things re the surgery.

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Laura,

In case you are confused by what I wrote....I only started taking synthetic hormones (and then Armour) AFTER they nuked my thyroid to make it stop producing hormones.

So NOW I *do* have an underactive thyroid.....because they intentionally killed it. I think some of it may have survived....and I could actually still be pumping out excess hormones from whatever wasnt destroyed. Amazingly if even a tiny part of the thyroid is still functioning the Graves could still be active and still "telling" that small portion to MAKE HORMONES.

The Dr.'s wont really do anything about it so long as my labs are normal. If I were to go Hyper again they would simply reduce the Armour.

I agree with Carla and I think the autoimmune stuff in my case could be caused by Lyme. There was a thread not too long ago...discussing the belief that autoimmune disease are caused by bacteria and virus.

I'm very much leaning in this direction.

Its definately some type of stress that "triggers" the autoimmune disease to begin with. Its a fact that Celiac requires a trigger. The trigger is a "stress" on the body. Why doesnt *everyone* with Celiac genes develop Celiac?? I mean...we ALL have stress at some point...pregnancy, relationship stuff, financial stuff...etc. But not EVERYONE gets an autoimmune disease trigered because of it.

Maybe those of us who *do* get autoimmune stuff have *more* stressors that the immune system is *already* dealing with.....but we dont know about??? I think thats probably why I got Graves Disease....I'm sure I would have gotten Celiac too....if I'd had the genes for it.

My Graves was always acting up when I got under stress. I think normal stress was just too much for my immune system to deal with. I'm betting my immune system was fighting something long before I *think* my problems began. <_<

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Hum, maybe I'll go read there tomorrow (too tired now, lol). I've had the sore throat for 4.5 days now...it was worse today after the good effects of the coughing wore off. But the cough just started early this morning...3 hours in the middle of the night and about 30 minutes this afternoon. What did they give you to combat it?

I had the sore throat a week and then got some antibiotics. By the end of the 2nd week - the throat was mostly better but had a cough that was worse at night and would 'spasm'. I was trying all the normal OTC meds by this time. Then during that 3rd week I started to choke and spasm and vomit, and that's when w cough was dx. Its quite easy by then to dx it. Too late then for treatment. I think if you get the right type of antibiotics early you can reduce the weeks you have it and you aren't as contagious. There is heaps of it here in Aust now.

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I kind of felt like I was pushing it while I was IN Disneyworld, but it's so hard to relax with all that fun minnie appearal to see and buy. :P

Donna,

I dont blame you....I would've been doing the same!! I would have forgot all about being sick and pushed myself to the max. :rolleyes:

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Sometimes I feel like Drew Barrymore's character on 50 First Dates ... I forget everything! I guess mush is better than nothing.

Carla....yeah me too.

Today at work I walked past a customer and she looked in her cart and then looked at me and said "Ok...so what did I forget??"

I laughed and said "I dont know but you'll find out when you get home!". :lol:

So then she started telling me "Dont get old......you'll start forgetting everything!"

I told her I already forget everything. :huh:

So she says "No...you have no idea....I get up from the couch and walk to the fridge and then I forget what I got up for....I did this 3 times in one night." She said it was really scary and she started to cry when it happened.

Ummm....I do know all about that....and FAR worse....like forgetting that a red light means STOP....or forgetting where I was driving to begin with. :blink:

But yeah....I totally remembered what you told me and I bit my tongue and I didnt say anything about how I could relate to her frusterations. ;)

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Laura, The antibodies that you had were TPO & Tg ?? Check this out but they are Hashimotos Antibodies as far as I know. Graves antibodies are TSI ? You need to go back to your Dr to check all this but I had a Endo nightmare and they kept me sick for an extra 10 years. I would never trust an Endo with my Thyroid again. He was a Prof too. My best Dr is a normal Dr with naturopathic interests. And she has Hashis herself ;)

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I had the sore throat a week and then got some antibiotics. By the end of the 2nd week - the throat was mostly better but had a cough that was worse at night and would 'spasm'. I was trying all the normal OTC meds by this time. Then during that 3rd week I started to choke and spasm and vomit, and that's when w cough was dx. Its quite easy by then to dx it. Too late then for treatment. I think if you get the right type of antibiotics early you can reduce the weeks you have it and you aren't as contagious. There is heaps of it here in Aust now.

Thanks Georgie! Sheesh, I stood and stared at the cough medicines on the shelves...there are so many, but I ended up not getting any because they all have sugar or glucose and/or dyes in them. I am going to Whole Foods tomorrow and I'll see if they have anything there that sounds better. I have some prescription stuff that I got last year (hopefully it's still good), which I can use if it gets really bad tonight. So far this evening I'm not coughing at all--hopefully it's not as serious as w cough.

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Donna,

I dont blame you....I would've been doing the same!! I would have forgot all about being sick and pushed myself to the max. :rolleyes:

:P

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Speaking of "stessors" and adrenals. I got into a little "spat" with a customer today. :ph34r:

She was seriously lacking Holiday CHEER. :angry:

Ever since I got sick I cant handle arguements or anything stressful like that. I'll get a worse reaction than any food can cause. So this "exchange" lasted only a couple minutes but my body reacted to the stress. Instant swelling in my head, heat flash....it resulted in a migraine and some pretty bad pressure behind my eyes. It lasted several hours.

I have to learn how to shrug some stuff off but its HARD. I was upset with myself but one of my co-workers said "Sheeesh...your only human...you may be sick but you're STILL human." So I guess I let the customer get to me and then I payed for it. :(

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But yeah....I totally remembered what you told me and I bit my tongue and I didnt say anything about how I could relate to her frusterations. ;)

Good girl, lol. :lol:

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Speaking of "stessors" and adrenals. I got into a little "spat" with a customer today. :ph34r:

She was seriously lacking Hoilday CHEER. :angry:

Ever since I got sick I cant handle arguements or anything stressful like that. I'll get a worse reaction than any food can cause. So this "exchange" lasted only a couple minutes but my body reacted to the stress. Instant swelling in my head, heat flash....it resulted in a migraine and some pretty bad pressure behind my eyes. It lasted several hours.

I have to learn how to shrug some stuff off but its HARD. I was upset with myself but one of my co-workers said "Sheeesh...your only human...you may be sick but you're STILL human." So I guess I let the customer get to me and then I payed for it. :(

Well that stinks!!! I really is hard to shrug it off. Why is it so hard to shrug it off? I have to get out in the next couple of days and get some gift cards for my mother and aunt and am dreading it cuz people can be so rude at this time of year, and in years past it wouldn't bother me as much, but now, it really gets to me.

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But yeah....I totally remembered what you told me and I bit my tongue and I didnt say anything about how I could relate to her frusterations. ;)

Good girl! ;) I had a similar thing happen. An old couple at Starbucks was talking like that ... "Wait till you get old, etc." I just listened and kept my mouth shut. After some time I found out that the woman had been sick for years and even had brain surgery! THAT IS worse than what I have! So is her daughter, who is my age and is terminally ill. Was I ever glad I kept my mouth shut!

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I would never trust an Endo with my Thyroid again. He was a Prof too. My best Dr is a normal Dr with naturopathic interests. And she has Hashis herself ;)

Georgie....I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your Endo. :(

My experience was the opposite. My Endo. was excellent...I just chose not to *believe* what he was telling me so I went off to a Naturopath. All I knew was I wasnt getting better with my symptoms so I figured I wasnt on enough meds or something. The Endo. was telling me my symtpoms were caused by something else....something that hadnt been "found" yet. I didnt believe him so I went to the Naturopath.

She *agreed* with me about all of my problems being caused by my thyroid. She said I probably have thyroid hormone resistance....meaning that my body wasnt processing the hormones correctly and I needed a MUCH higher dose of Armour.

I called the Endo. and told him what she said. He strongly disagreed but said as long as I was under *her* care and not *his*....I could do whatever I wanted....but he was against it.

She had me increasing up to 5 grains of Armour. I got really Hyper and felt 100 X worse. She had no idea why. Also...I was still cold and my body temp. was still low. That NEVER improved until I changed my diet and eliminated alot of toxins. Thats what brought my temp up and thats what alleviated my *hypo* symptoms.

So for me....the Endo was right on target in saying something else was going on. The Naturopath was way OFF target in having me increase my Armour.

It all depends on who you see. I saw 3 different Endo's and only one of them earned my respect.

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I wish I could go to sleep and wake up in February!

Patti.....I wish you could too.

I wish you could wake up on Xmas morning and be able to eat all the cookies you want. B)

One day we'll all get there. :) Well....probably not 2 days from now but maybe by next Christmas. ;)

You're a real trooper through all this. I sometimes forget you are struggling too...you always seem to have a "calm" about you. :)

You make ALOT of other people here feel better cuz of your kind heart. I hope *you* start to feel better soon as well! :)

I'm glad you're hubby and son will pick up the slack while you're recovering...and dont worry about the cleaning. I agree about hiring someone during this time. It'll make your life easier. ;)

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But yeah....I totally remembered what you told me and I bit my tongue and I didnt say anything about how I could relate to her frusterations. ;)

To repeat Carla and Donna.....good girl! :)

Speaking of "stessors" and adrenals. I got into a little "spat" with a customer today. :ph34r:

She was seriously lacking Holiday CHEER. :angry:

Ever since I got sick I cant handle arguements or anything stressful like that. I'll get a worse reaction than any food can cause. So this "exchange" lasted only a couple minutes but my body reacted to the stress. Instant swelling in my head, heat flash....it resulted in a migraine and some pretty bad pressure behind my eyes. It lasted several hours.

I have to learn how to shrug some stuff off but its HARD. I was upset with myself but one of my co-workers said "Sheeesh...your only human...you may be sick but you're STILL human." So I guess I let the customer get to me and then I payed for it. :(

Uh oh. You win some and you lose some and then you lose some more as far as your body retaliating. I hope you are feeling better now. :)

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So for me....the Endo was right on target in saying something else was going on. The Naturopath was way OFF target in having me increase my Armour.

Glad that you had a good one. I have bad memories of my 2. This is my worry for my friends daughter as she is seeing a Naturopath for her excema and food allergies but I wonder why she isn't getting better , and perhaps she needs to see a Doc ? Naturopaths can be good but sometimes you just need a Doc :lol: I am lucky that my Dr is both - even if she does keep going on about mercury amalgams and removing them :o

Donna - good luck with the cough medicines. I was there 2 weeks ago. Standing there trying to find cough meds without gluten. WHY put gluten in COUGH MEDS !! Now I find out that the antibiotics I had affected my Pernicious Anaemia and I have to ask about that each time now too. :blink: I just had another B12 jab today so try and be well for Christmas. Well - at least feel my feet again :lol:

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I think I've probably missed some posts I would have liked to reply too...but I am getting lost in back-pages. :(

I know I wanted to reply to DiamondHeart about her Bioset treatments. I will have to go baack and try to find her post. Its been awhile now. :blink:

I went to my treatment tonight. Saw Bioset lady #2. We did molds....it was my third treatment for molds. Apparantly molds is a BIG panel....lots and lots of molds everywhere!! :o

So molds was broken down into 3 treatments. I reacted to 100% of the molds in the first and second treatments. Tonight we did food molds, indoor/outdoor molds and peanut molds. I knew for sure I'd do poorly on the peanut molds. I do very badly with peanut *anything*.

I actually didnt do too bad on the food molds...only about 40% of them were "bad". Indoor and outdoor molds were pretty bad and peanut molds were 100%. I told the lady I *knew* it about the peanuts!!

She said...."Yeah....you know you're body pretty well.....nobody can know your body better than you can." Its true....when I can *understand* whats in the vials....I have a good idea about what I'll have problems with.

With the indoor/outdoor molds I have no clue because the labels on the vials are too "scientific" for me. Different species of molds or something. :unsure:

Its the same with the peanut molds....many different molds.....but at least I can understand that they all have to do with peanuts and I can understand that my reactions to peanuts are HEINOUS!!

That much is very clear to me. :P

My next treatment we will be starting on foods. At least 4 or 5 treatments for food. Then we have to do the food additives....MSG, sulfites, aspartame....all that stuff. I'm still gonna avoid MSG and Aspartame....since they're neurotoxins and all. After all this I dont wanna end up with Alzheimers because of those darn food additives. :angry:

So far molds has been the worst panel for me. Basically the presence of *any* molds is really bringing down my immune system. I think *anyone* with a weakened immune system is gonna react horribly to molds. Some people worse than others because it may have something to do with genetics.

So thats about it for tonight. Two full glasses on my stomach again. The molds are affecting my organs, hormones, my emotions, food allergies, thyroid, pituitary, sinuses, my colon and a few other things. It was *largely* affecting my colon and sinuses.

It seems like MOST of the stuff I react to is contributing to food allergies and affecting my hormones, emotions, intestines, stomach, thyroid, etc. Those are the ones I'm seeing show up the most.

I wonder how long all of this was really going on before I became symptomatic. How long was all of this stuff burdening my system and messing with my thyroid, hormones, intestines, etc??? Maybe since before my thyroid went Hyper to begin with?? :huh:

I dont really think these things occur overnight. I think stuff is going on undetected for some time before things get out of hand and a cascade of events occurs. This is when we start really noticing the symptoms...when its gotten to be too much for our immune systems to bear. :(

One more week till foods!! :D

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