Glutenfreenoobie

It's offend recommended that you eliminate dairy from your diet when you go gluten free due to Celiac.

The villi are damaged due to Celiac. Absorption is hindered because of the that damage. Dairy is one of those hindered....

Often, once healing takes place, dairy is re-introduced without an issue.

I'm going to try to reduce or eliminate my dairy intake. I can get vitamin D from the sun and calcium from vegetables. I plan to drink green tea instead of milk. Is there any type of beverage that promotes healing? What else is recommended that I eliminate while I still have symptoms?

I've heard many bad things about milk. I'm wondering if the 1% milk I've been drinking is causing my symptoms to be worse. I've been gluten free for awhile now, at least 2 months. I tried going milk free and my symptoms seems to be improving faster. I know if the digestive track is under strain, you basically become intolerant to lactose.

You may want to test out your recipes in a oven or microwave first to see if you like the gluten flour mixtures you're using.

Bun in a bowl-

Small batches can be made with one egg and about a half cup to 3/4 cup of gluten free flour mixes, a half teasp to one teasp. of cider vinegar, and a quarter teaspoon of baking soda in the microwave, in a bowl. Add a tablespoon of oil, a dash of salt, and water to make a batter, and it bakes right in the cereal bowl for about 1 minute 25 to 1 minute 45 seconds. Oh, and a little bit of honey or molasses or sweetener, a dab of cocoa powder for color, maybe a pinch of cinnamon.

Then try to get the recipe adapted to the bread machine, if you are not using a pre made mix.

Many of the mixes have bean flours, which some people despise, so they end up making their own mixes. Or they can't tolerate one of the more common gluten-free bread mixes. Pamela's is really good but it has some ingredients that don't work for some people.

Where do I get cheap gluten-free flour mix? I've seen $6 for a small amount of gluten free flour at Wegman's.

Your very welcome.

So Craig's List has new stuff ? I thought it was used but I didn't really know as I only went on there once for firewood....

Gluten Free food is about 200% more pricey than wheat foods.But again, I don't care to eat poison anymore!!!I'll pay for gluten-free!!!!!

good luck

mamaw

Yes Craig's list does, I just bought something new from Craig's 3 days ago.

What kind of bread do you like? Some like multigrain & others like plain white. I might add if your bread machine has made wheat bread you may not want to use it for gluten free breads. There is no way to completely clean the cervices around the posts. Another thought is an older machine may not hold up to gluten free baking. It takes a strong machine for gluten free breads.I know several who have purchased new less expensive machines & they died after a few uses, motors blow up

I personally love the ZO. Its a workhorse & has to date lasted me for 6-7 years now.

I love anna's bread mix. Pamela's has a good mix. Sisters Three has a good white bread mix.

Or go to the recipe section & you will find tons. I like Lorka's ( Lori Crater) bread in the recipe section.

good luck

mamaw.

Thanks Mamaw, I'm going to see if I can buy a brand new bread machine on craig's list.

Hi, I have an older bread machine which I want to put in operation. I'm sick of paying over 5$ at Whole Paycheck for tapioca bread. What's your favorite gluten free bread recipe that can be made in a bread machine?

'Fraid so, but not quite as bad as ciggies or that white powder stuff I speak as someone who didn't have a lot of problem with gluten, but almost d.i.e.d without the ciggies (but would have died with them!) Some people won't even quit ciggies to save their lives so, no, there may not be a lot of hope for your dad. unless you can make him see how much better he would feel by your example.

Unfortunately, we seem to crave those things that harm our bodies

Most of my favorite food was pasta dishes. I'm an Italian so my family is upset about the no gluten mess, I mean diet.

Many folks go through a gluten withdrawal phase, which can last for a couple of weeks at least. Gluten makes you feel good and when you take it away your body wants a fix

No way? Are you saying gluten is addicting?

There is little hope for my dad trying the diet with me. My dad is a very comfort seeking person. If a new food does not taste that good but is good for him, it takes a lot of work for him to even give the new food a try. I can't get my dad to switch from whole milk to 2% milk because my dad's dad would only drink whole milk. My dad tends to see me as being mean to him when I try to get my dad to try something new.

Have you gone to a celiac or gluten intolerance specializing nutritionist? One thing that helped me very much was working with a nutritionist to balance my gluten free diet. I also had significant vitamin deficiencies and need prescription vitamins for a time and now I remain on a multi-vitamin. Also take vitamins at night before bed and I do not eat very much before working out. I normal stick to cereal or like a little rice, chicken or avocados (stomach settling food). Heavy protein before working out maybe too much on a healing system. I know my energy and strength has increase with balancing my vitamins. Hope it helps!

I don't have a lot of extra money so I try to avoid seeing extra professionals, in this case a nutritionist. For the same reason I avoid supplements. I'm just going to go gluten-free and listen to my body. Hopefully my digestive system is still intact enough that I'm not suffering from any malnutrition.

Working out is a passion of mine; what might be called a hobby. However, the worst of all the celiac symptoms kicked in when I was diagnosed (in Feb. 2010). When I've tried to work out, even for 10 minutes and doing perhaps a tenth of the intensity I normally would train at, I would end up with muscle tremors, extreme weakness, and then headache. I have "tested" myself periodically during this time with similar results. A few days ago I tried again (and for 25 min. rather than 10 min.): the tremors did not occur, and the post workout weakness and headache were much less intense. So, I am improving with those symptoms, but for the next day I had diarrhea, felt generally unwell for the next 3 days (headachy and lethargic, with stomach/intestinal discomfort). Has anyone been similar to me? Is there hope for me to resume one of my favourite hobbies?!

Young male here. I've had problems working out. In fact the reason I decided to go gluten free in the first place was because I was having trouble working out. I tried increasing my protein but I ate my protein on bread (sigh). My main problem is just the general feeling of unease and bad when I start warming up. I mean I go on my stationary bike for 2 mins at low intensity and I feel awful.

Second main problem is my abs. I get through the workout but then I have to run to the toilet every 10 mins for the next couple days. Could gluten intolerance weaken my abs? I know in Pilates class I was getting beaten by middle age guys with beer bellies that claimed this was their first Pilates class. Meanwhile I've been training my abs for years and couldn't do 1/3 of what these middle age guys were doing.

I'm feeling better physically. I do have a cold right now, and I'm fatigued. Waiting on thyroid and vitamin, iron levels etc. to see if one of those is the culprit.

But, I am struggling emotionally. I know it's a grieving process, but it's very hard at times. The sadness over all the stuff I've lost in life because of celiac is overwhelming at times.

The uncertainty of the future, not knowing how much healing I will get and if I will ever feel "normal" and healthy is overwhelming too.

I want to do this, that and the other, but when I make plans I just don't know what I'll feel like that day, so I can't count on anything.

About 4 days ago I got really angry when someone did something annoying. The next day almost the exact same event happens and I was cool with it. My mom always thought that males around my age, mid 20's are just angry. My dad and my dad's mom both have anger issues too. Do you think my anger is normal, genetic, or caused by gluten intolerance?

By really angry, I mean that I slammed my foot really hard on the floor but felt no pain, could barely see while slamming my foot, also I could not remember slamming my foot. I'm 190 ibs and a bodybuilder so I'm assuming I slammed with all my strength.

Well, I know it is possible to have an allergy to wheat; I don't know about gluten allergy. Maybe someone else can help on this. My neighbor swears she has a wheat allergy, although she has never had standard testing for it--only the psychic kind of swinging pendulum which you can believe or not according to your inclination. At any rate, it is enough for her to avoid wheat. She also has other food intolerances. I don't know about wheat allergy causing alligator skin I have some alligator skin, but I just think of it as very dry scales, along with all my other skin conditions

I am glad you are going to give gluten free a good trial. Read up on the forum here about what you have to do to get rid of all the gluten, from your kitchen, personal care products, label reading, etc., to be sure you get it all. I hope it works for you

I felt fatigued all of yesterday and today looks the same. From what I understand I haven't eaten gluten in 4 days or so. If the fatigue is caused by a gluten intolerance I wonder how long I can have symptoms after cutting out gluten.

I hate getting blood tests, too! They always hurt so much due to my low pain threshold (which may be due to gluten causing neurotransmitter problems, according to my doc); also because my veins are hard to find, and collapse. Ugh.

If I were going to get tested, which I'm not, I think I'd do the Enterolab stool test. I don't have insurance, for one, and this is affordable; also, I'm 5 weeks g.f. and am not about to go back to gluten just for a blood test that so often shows a false negative anyway. Now if I had insurance, I might be more willing to do the testing, and get the biopsy done.....so I can see both sides of it.

Good point Black Sheep, I would have to go back on gluten to get a test that has a good chance of a bad result. As of now I plan to try to eliminate all gluten for 3 months and then assess how I am doing. Love your avatar btw Black Sheep.

Mushroom, I didn't know that suffers of gluten intolerance are more suspect-able to diabetes. Diabetes runs in my family. Again, I'm not insured so I'm not going to get tested for diabetes, not that I think I have diabetes anyways.

One more question is it possible to have a gluten allergy or is all gluten in tolerances a variant of celiac? I know some people have stronger reactions than others to gluten, for example alligator skin.

Yes it is very strongly hereditary. In my family it was 100% both in my immediate family, brothers and mother and likely my father and in my children. The chance of other family members also being celiac when one has been diagnosed is high. Family members should all be tested, even if they don't seem to have symptoms, and if they do have symptoms a trial of the diet is advised after testing is finished even if the results are negative.

Hmmm, well I'm not going to the doctor to get a bunch of blood tests. First I'm not insured, second off I feel lightheaded when I see blood, third I'm not sure if I like getting pricked with needles and the other inconveniences. Right now I'm having trouble eating at fast food restaurants with my friend and family. Not only am I forced to eat at home more but the cooking is more restrictive.

Part of me wants to say, "I'll take my chances and eat gluten anyways" or "this is just a bad dream." Yet, a couple days ago when I ate a sticky bun from the Qmart I felt a lot worse and got really irritable and angry in addition to indigestion. Anyone else get angry the day after eating gluten? The anger is what makes me think I am not sick in the traditional virus/bacteria sense. Instead, I think the anger is caused by some sort of allergic reaction or intolerance.

Is it possible to develop an intolerance later in life? Edit: One more question does a gluten allergy really double death rate as according to the following BBC new article?

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Edit2: I keep reading more and more about gluten intolerance on the internet, I gotta stop. I'm still baffled that none of my doctors has ever mentioned a food allergy of any kind. According to many websites many doctors do not believe in food allergies. Then, I find another article that says patients with less severe symptoms of celiac disease are at an increased risk of death as opposed to patients with more severe symptoms. My guess is the more severe symptoms are noticed faster.

People looking at me like I'm faking being sick for some bizarre reason pisses me off.I have to deal with not being able to participate in normal situations,such as eating muffins in the break room,or going out for pizza and beer,with a smile.Seriously,who the HELL would give up pizza/beer unless they had to??Won't even go into the medical community..they are a whole special rant on their own.On my 5th doctor in 8 months.I'd cut my leg off if it made me"normal"again.

Welcome to the board..these people are wonderful, and very knowledgeable.Hope you start feeling better soon!

Anyone know if gluten intolerance or Celiac are hereditary? My dad has been complaining of allergies, particularly headaches when he stands up. Think my dad has some sort of adverse reaction to gluten like me?

Oh, yeah. Lots and lots of connections between gluten and brain/central nervous system/peripheral nervous system problems.

Here's a link to another forum about neuro topics that talks about the link between gluten and neuro issues:

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Look under the heading "Neurologic Manifestations".

I've been reading the thread about the neuro/gluten connection and its scary. I'm feeling sad just thinking about the content. No wonder I didn't look into a gluten intolerance prior. Same with the GERD or acid reflux. I've had a vomit feeling when I belch from time to time for so many years I just thought it was normal.

I guess the problem is assuming normalcy with these chronic illnesses. I just assumed I was normal and my body was acting normal, and that I just got sick more often than most people. I mean once you've been sick for so long with an illness, how do you remember what normal is?

I have a friend who says that MSG is also a neurotoxin. Does anyone know anything about this? Or any good sites I could go to, to read up on it?

G.F.noobie, re. your stomach upset, I was wondering: are you talking about something that feels like indigestion, and/or acid reflux? Because if you are, I have some experience with that, unfortunately. What happened with me, years before going g.f. (I'm a newbie, too--g.f. for all of 5 weeks now!), was not an indigestion-type "burning" after I'd eat, but more of a feeling like my food was just sitting there like a huge lump, going nowhere. It didn't hurt, was just uncomfortable. And sometimes at night, I'd get a tiny bit of acid reflux. I was also having many other health problems and of course, the "mainstream" docs were no help at all. I had OAB. I had fibro. I had chronic fatigue. I this, I had that, but no one was willing to even look at any of the root causes. So I finally went to a Naturopath, and one of the first tests they wanted to do was to see how much stomach acid my stomach was producing. So I swallowed a tiny radio transmitter encased in what looked like a multi-vitamin, got hooked up to the monitor, and away we went. My stomach acid was measured in 20-min. increments, and the results were both there to see on the monitor (like a heart monitor), and printed out on a page. I was told that every 20 min., when they gave me the tiny doses of soda, that my stomach acid should suddenly spike on the graph, and that in between there should be smaller waves.

Mine was practically flat-lined the whole time. It was worse than the Hypochloridia that they suspected--it was called something like a-hypochloridia. They said that almost every single person who comes to their clinic and thinks they have indigestion, or even doesn't, but has other health problems, has low stomach acid, which causes a whole host of other problems....like for me, it caused pernicious anemia. So I had to start taking HCL pills with every meal. After taking fish oil, B-12 sublinguals, and many other things for a year or so, I had it re-tested, and it had improved so much that my stomach was producing normal acid, except for the first 20 minutes, it was still low--but nowhere near flat-lined. So I'm hoping that going g.f. will repair it the rest of the way.

Now there is a reason, which actually makes sense, why people with very low stomach acid would still have reflux, but darned if I can remember what it is! But I could look it up if you like. However, I don't know if this is even one of your problems, so I'm not saying anyone should run out and buy HCL, as taken wrong (like with any type of NSAIDS), taking too strong a dose, etc., can be really bad. I'm just saying that if your stomach problems seem to be "indigestion" or reflux, low acid could be the culprit there. But please don't think I'm saying gluten has nothing to do with it, either--even if low acid is a culprit, gluten is probably the culprit of culprits!

Glad you found this board, people here are so helpful. And it's nice to have a place where people understand what you're going through!

Hey Black Sheep, I'm not sure what acid reflux is, I just assumed I was too young to get acid reflux. Anyways I read part of your post and then I was at the ice cream parlor and before I ate anything I belched, but not a full belch and I felt like vomit came up to my throat, yet I didn't get any gagging or urge to to vomit. Is the above acid reflux?

I'm going to try to finish reading the rest of your post now. I sometimes have trouble reading large blocks of text w/o white space in-between. I learned in art we need contrast to see.

Welcome! I'm in the same boat as you. I just got negative blood test results yesterday but I've already started noticing a reduction in my symptoms since going gluten free. It's only been two weeks for me and each day I feel a little bit better.

Watch out with the steak, if they put soy sauce on it make sure it's gluten free. That was the hardest for me, finding gluten free soy sauce. Brags amino acids was recommended to me by a couple people and tastes just the same for half the price.

I've seen others on here just live off of rice and chicken and adding basic veggies to their diet slowly while their stomach heals, but that's up to you and it depends I guess on your discomfort.

If I'm wrong about anything here, please correct me, I'm new at this too and I'm just going by what I've read.

I find it almost funny that people believe a test given by a doctor over the patient. I mean who is going to know you better than yourself? I do not need to know the exact number of antibodies in my system, to know whether I am adversely affected by gluten. The steak I cooked myself, so I know no soy sauce. I'll look into the Brags amino acids.

A month and a half is not that long? Oh man I've been having lots of trouble with my social life trying to go gluten free. My friends tend to love baked goods. I can't believe how many of my favorite fast food restaurants serve gluten. Oddly I've never liked steak before and now I like steak a lot. Seems by eliminating gluten, other foods I suddenly like. I'm also eating a lot of seafood. I've been crazed about eating seafood lately.

Mushroom "And for the remaining digestive symptoms, perhaps some digestive enzymes would help your pancreas out a little, because sometimes its ability to produce enzymes is impaired by gluten. Stick with it, and keep asking questions."

Hmm, by digestive enzymes you mean yogurt right? I've been drinking the last of the soy milk in my house until the digestive problems diminish.

I was wondering if gluten can really damage the brain? I was looking up gluten and I heard the term "neurotoxin" I googled "neurotoxin gluten" and found the following article:

https://www.celiac.com/articles/1085/1/Gluten-Causes-Brain-Disease-By-Prof-Rodney-Ford-MB-BS-MD-FRACP/Page1.html

Most of the doctors when I went to the hospital thought I was on drugs and when the tests were done and no drugs, I was sent to a psychiatrist. Is it possible someone could be having a gluten allergy and be locked up inside a mental institution, and being fed gluten? None of the doctors, and I saw several even mentioned the possibility of a food allergy. Instead, I was given a spinal tap and my fluids checked.

No PB and margarine (for the most part) do not contain gluten. But if someone else sticks a knife in the PB, then smears it on their bread, then sticks it back in the PB, then you can get glutened from the crumbs.

a month and a half is not that long. You could still have lingering symptoms or have another intolerance that popped up after you went gluten free.

A month and a half is not that long? Oh man I've been having lots of trouble with my social life trying to go gluten free. My friends tend to love baked goods. I can't believe how many of my favorite fast food restaurants serve gluten. Oddly I've never liked steak before and now I like steak a lot. Seems by eliminating gluten, other foods I suddenly like. I'm also eating a lot of seafood. I've been crazed about eating seafood lately.

Mushroom "And for the remaining digestive symptoms, perhaps some digestive enzymes would help your pancreas out a little, because sometimes its ability to produce enzymes is impaired by gluten. Stick with it, and keep asking questions."

Hmm, by digestive enzymes you mean yogurt right? I've been drinking the last of the soy milk in my house until the digestive problems diminish.

Welcome to the board.

Glad to hear a gluten free diet is making you feel better.

Hmmm, I still have some symptoms, mostly upset digestive system as of right now. Is there any food I can eat that will help purge my system of gluten? I just have a little bit of gas and erratic elimination of waste. For example I'll drink 10oz of water over 2 hours and I'll have to pee 6 times in the same 2 hours.

Wolicki "If you live in a gluteny household, get your own toaster, condiments, etc. because YES someone douple dipping a knife into the peanut butter or margarine can make you sick!"

Peanut butter and Margaine don't have gluten do they?

Hey, first post on these boards. I'm not sure if I'm Celiac, or if I have a gluten allergy, or gluten intolerance, or something else. About a year ago I got sick and I was taken to my doctor and my doctor said I had to go to the hospital. A lot of tests were run on me but the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with me.

I'm a young male and the results all said I was healthy. The sickness went away but I had indigestion problems for about 2-3 months. About 1.5 months ago I started have the indigestion problems again and I decided to go gluten free. I went gluten free for a month and slowly started reintroducing gluten into my diet. I started to feel sick again, lots of gas so now I'm going off gluten and the symptoms are dulled.

Honestly, I do not trust doctors anymore. After what happened a year ago, I felt my doctors did a bunch of tests on me, took my money, and caused stress when I did not need stress. Any opinions of whether I might have a gluten allergy? I'd rather not go to a doctor and receive invasive tests and/or drugs.